Dante VS Jedah

Started by Violent2Dope5 pages

Originally posted by Burning thought
this has not been proven, nobody has shown evidence that the souls themselves have this power inside them, if the owners of the souls do then its irrelevent. No false, in the LOK games, Kain is (wrongly) named the Vampires warrior to fight Raziel the Hyldens (vampire enemy) warrior....and the soul reaver was made especially to kill the Vampire warrior, strangely in the story it turns out Raziel is both, Kain is neither so in truth, nothing is able to take kain in Lokverse, since he is unkillable. Hmm i agree Jedah can take more souls from longer range possibly than the reaver, but the reaver doesnt break or weaken, wheras jedah has died from eating too many souls before, if you can prove each soul was powerful and not just the souls owners, then ill let you have the reaver may not be equel to Jedah in soul suck. This is irrelevent, its said kains sons (especially Raizel) can solo an army, Time is not his plaything, show me this...your using a badly drawn out Hyperbole hypothosis, you seem to claim just because he forms a dimension it has everything our dimension has? can you not comprehend perhaps this dimension does not have time?..has he ever used time powers? not from the informaton ive seen. Kain also has dimensional powers, the only thing Jedah has in the DSverse is his own dimension over kain, everything else kain has except making whole dimensions, but he doesnt do it on a whim...he used all the souls to make it..like his bricks and mortar
Actually, Fire Ninja proved the soul thing awhile back, do you really think Makai is a planet filled with people who can easily bust planets? If you do, this helps my case greatly. I'll find the link(yes, it's an FAQ, but it is also a translation of the DS sourcebook, if you want better, learn Japanese and buy it). Nothing can take down Kain? Wow, not even Classic Beyonder? Why can't Jedah eat Kain's soul, the Reaver has not shown the ability to eat souls like Jedah has, and he can instantly increase his power from eating them. Jedah didn't die from eating souls, his body was destroyed when he was tricked into trying to absorb the powerful energies from the gate of Makai, not souls. Also, the WEAKER D class Makai can solo armies, the weakest Makai can in other words.

Here is the Makai ranking system:

D Class: Makai who don't have a humanoid form, typically the weakest Makai, but in rare cases they can have power of even a B+ class. Ex. of a B+ level D class: Bishamon(technically, his sword and armor).

C Class: The slaves of Makai. Typically stronger than D class, tho not by much.

B class: Normal citizen of Makai. Stronger than slaves.

B+ class: The warriors of Makai. Ex. J. Talbain.

A class: The Makai nobles. Ex. Demitri Maximov

A+ class: stronger noble, ex. Ozomu, possibly Demitri(can't remember).

S class: Class which belongs to the ones able to rule Makai. Ex. Jedah.

S+ class: Special class given to Belial, who had the power to kill 100 Makai nobles with one swipe of his arm.

...So his dimension doesn't have time? Than how are Demitri and Morrigan moving when they fight Jedah and Lilith? Exactly, he created his dimension's time.

Jedah can walk thru dimensions, can make them, can destroy them, among others. He is a powerful reality warper. Also, he made the Majigen from one soul, Ozomu's, not from them all. He used the other souls to feed the Shintai(big baby).

Great, more unproven and speculated bs from Darkstalkers.

- No one has proved how powerful these souls are, let alone Jedah absorbing 1,000,000,000....000 souls. Us seeing him putting up his hand and swirls going in it proves that....lulz.

- A reality warper, lulz. Just why's that? Because he can make a dimension? 😆 I guess all realm-creating beings are reality warpers now.

What else...oh yes...more speculation in FAQs written by nobodies. Gotta love the DS wank.

Originally posted by Sado-sama
Great, more unproven and speculated bs from Darkstalkers.

- No one has proved how powerful these souls are, let alone Jedah absorbing 1,000,000,000....000 souls. Us seeing him putting up his hand and swirls going in it proves that....lulz.

- A reality warper, lulz. Just why's that? Because he can make a dimension? 😆 I guess all realm-creating beings are reality warpers now.

What else...oh yes...more speculation in FAQs written by nobodies. Gotta love the DS wank.


Originally posted by Sado-sama
Great, more unproven and speculated bs from Darkstalkers.

- No one has proved how powerful these souls are, let alone Jedah absorbing 1,000,000,000....000 souls. Us seeing him putting up his hand and swirls going in it proves that....lulz.

- A reality warper, lulz. Just why's that? Because he can make a dimension? 😆 I guess all realm-creating beings are reality warpers now.

What else...oh yes...more speculation in FAQs written by nobodies. Gotta love the DS wank.

1. He absorbed all the souls in Makai, and there are about 33,000,000,000 of them. No, the DS sourcebook proves that.

2. Ummm...yeah, if you can make a dimension or realm, you have reality warping powers.

3. No, they are translations of the DS sourcebook. If you want better, learn to read Japanese, and buy it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Actually, Fire Ninja proved the soul thing awhile back, do you really think Makai is a planet filled with people who can easily bust planets? If you do, this helps my case greatly. I'll find the link(yes, it's an FAQ, but it is also a translation of the DS sourcebook, if you want better, learn Japanese and buy it). Nothing can take down Kain? Wow, not even Classic Beyonder? Why can't Jedah eat Kain's soul, the Reaver has not shown the ability to eat souls like Jedah has, and he can instantly increase his power from eating them. Jedah didn't die from eating souls, his body was destroyed when he was tricked into trying to absorb the powerful energies from the gate of Makai, not souls. Also, the WEAKER D class Makai can solo armies, the weakest Makai can in other words.

Here is the Makai ranking system:

D Class: Makai who don't have a humanoid form, typically the weakest Makai, but in rare cases they can have power of even a B+ class. Ex. of a B+ level D class: Bishamon(technically, his sword and armor).

C Class: The slaves of Makai. Typically stronger than D class, tho not by much.

B class: Normal citizen of Makai. Stronger than slaves.

B+ class: The warriors of Makai. Ex. J. Talbain.

A class: The Makai nobles. Ex. Demitri Maximov

A+ class: stronger noble, ex. Ozomu, possibly Demitri(can't remember).

S class: Class which belongs to the ones able to rule Makai. Ex. Jedah.

S+ class: Special class given to Belial, who had the power to kill 100 Makai nobles with one swipe of his arm.

...So his dimension doesn't have time? Than how are Demitri and Morrigan moving when they fight Jedah and Lilith? Exactly, he created his dimension's time.

Jedah can walk thru dimensions, can make them, can destroy them, among others. He is a powerful reality warper. Also, he made the Majigen from one soul, Ozomu's, not from them all. He used the other souls to feed the Shintai(big baby).

nobody can take out kain while he is in the LOKverse, theres special reasons why, not even Classic beyonder. Fireninja did not prove anything, he simply showed how many creatures included there are, thats about 6 billion....where you get 33 billion from i dont know, theres barely a few million according to the sources ive seen, theres like 2-20 million Makai. Also what do you mean the Reaver has never failed to recieve souls from a single target and Raziel only gets stronger from taking souls, hes been shown to take as many as there are in an area without even tireing, Elder God taking souls>Jedah whos proof is not shown yet, Elder God eats souls for ageless times and then creates beings out of those souls.

his dimension doesnt need time for beings to move...for example the spectoral plane in LOK is said to have completly diffrent time to the real world but Raziel doesnt move any slower or faster according, and in many fictionverses a realm without time has been seen, the beings dont just freeze...your assumtion is also broken by the fact that time is a force like gravity, just because a man can create a chair doesnt mean he created gravity that affects the chair, just like jedah (amped with the souls that he uses, not on a whim) created the dimension, does not mean he created time, space and every force that is within it.....

he walks through the, the other things is seen on special occasions, nothing is stated that he can make or destroy dimensions at a whim or even easily, the souls he used to make these things are not in verses fights. It doesnt matter, one soul is like an object, and none of these souls would be in a verses fight.

DS wank? 😆

kosmos one shotting the universe that's some real wank for your ass 😆

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. He absorbed all the souls in Makai, and there are about 33,000,000,000 of them. No, the DS sourcebook proves that.

2. Ummm...yeah, if you can make a dimension or realm, you have reality warping powers.

3. No, they are translations of the DS sourcebook. If you want better, learn to read Japanese, and buy it.

1. You don't even need the source book. Not only can Jedah absorb all the souls, but he absorbs the power and energy. A+ and S class DSers can blow planets and rip holes into dimensions and that's been prooven like a million times over. Jedah absorbs that power like...times a few mill 😆

2. Not to mention that it has been stated a million times that the Majigen was rippin up Makai just by bein parallel to it. Jedah didn't have to do shit, just imagine if he tried to assault Makai directly.

3. Most of the info I've given come from the god damn game it's self, not to mention the fact that I've got the ALL ABOUT CAPCOM fighting games book... Dante gets his ass one shoted with a breath.

This is a spite thread and it shoulda been closed, WFT are you doin Lana?!

V2D, I say you give up and move to a more challengin debate.

Originally posted by Em Dot Bison
1. You don't even need the source book. Not only can Jedah absorb all the souls, but he absorbs the power and energy. A+ and S class DSers can blow planets and rip holes into dimensions and that's been prooven like a million times over. Jedah absorbs that power like...times a few mill 😆

2. Not to mention that it has been stated a million times that the Majigen was rippin up Makai just by bein parallel to it. Jedah didn't have to do shit, just imagine if he tried to assault Makai directly.

3. Most of the info I've given come from the god damn game it's self, not to mention the fact that I've got the ALL ABOUT CAPCOM fighting games book... Dante gets his ass one shoted with a breath.

This is a spite thread and it shoulda been closed, WFT are you doin Lana?!

V2D, I say you give up and move to a more challengin debate.

1.he just gains stronger in power from souls he eats, nothing says by how much from what ive seen so far. Absorbs their power? what makes you say that, all it says he absorbs souls and gains power, where does it say each soul has the exact power as its owner? and that jedah absorbs the whole portion of that power...,a light bulb uses electrical energy to make light, but its overall output in energy is transfered into many other things so when jedah takes the energy the rest may dispure into other random energy sources.

2. he or his dimension?....you just menstioned his dimension, whos to say he>his dimension and if this is actually even the tiniest comparison. Your saying because his dimension can rip up makai it means he can...

3. Dante may do....depending on if he can use time fast enough, then hell last longer but i dont see him beating Jedah anyway. And go on then, prove it, if its in the game screenshot/camera shot it...if youve got the manuel, scan it in and post some info directly, or find some other source of relevent information (not unnoficial fansites that we dont even know if the develoeprs themselves have looked at)

Originally posted by Em Dot Bison
DS wank? 😆

kosmos one shotting the universe that's some real wank for your ass 😆

That claim was based on Prime's theory, which, technically made a lot of sense. Now looking at this from a technical perspective you're just telling me that you're a hypocrite because most of your claims are based on speculated bs.

And excuse me, this coming from the guy who thinks Morrigan is nigh-omnipotent. 😕 crylaugh

Originally posted by Burning thought
nobody can take out kain while he is in the LOKverse, theres special reasons why, not even Classic beyonder. Fireninja did not prove anything, he simply showed how many creatures included there are, thats about 6 billion....where you get 33 billion from i dont know, theres barely a few million according to the sources ive seen, theres like 2-20 million Makai. Also what do you mean the Reaver has never failed to recieve souls from a single target and Raziel only gets stronger from taking souls, hes been shown to take as many as there are in an area without even tireing, Elder God taking souls>Jedah whos proof is not shown yet, Elder God eats souls for ageless times and then creates beings out of those souls.

his dimension doesnt need time for beings to move...for example the spectoral plane in LOK is said to have completly diffrent time to the real world but Raziel doesnt move any slower or faster according, and in many fictionverses a realm without time has been seen, the beings dont just freeze...your assumtion is also broken by the fact that time is a force like gravity, just because a man can create a chair doesnt mean he created gravity that affects the chair, just like jedah (amped with the souls that he uses, not on a whim) created the dimension, does not mean he created time, space and every force that is within it.....

he walks through the, the other things is seen on special occasions, nothing is stated that he can make or destroy dimensions at a whim or even easily, the souls he used to make these things are not in verses fights. It doesnt matter, one soul is like an object, and none of these souls would be in a verses fight.

1. Classic Beyonder would turn Kain into a baloon animal. 😬

2. Fire Ninja did prove that the power of the souls. Also, there are about 6 billion Makai, and 30 billion beasts...hey, thanks for making the number higher! Elder God above Jedah in soul powers? Lol, Jedah in one sitting ate ALL of Makai's souls and made a dimension from ONE!

3. ...There is a BIG difference between a different realm having different timelines, and having no time at all. Jedah made everything in his dimension, or did time just decide to go into his dimension for fun? And he WASN'T amped on souls AT ALL, the first soul he took was Ozomu's, and he made the Majigen from it. He then ate all the others.

4. According to em, simply by making his dimension Makai was slowly destroyed, not to sure on that tho. Also, what stops him from eating Dante's soul, AT THE START OF THE FIGHT!?

Originally posted by Sado-sama
That claim was based on Prime's theory, which, technically made a lot of sense. Now looking at this from a technical perspective you're just telling me that you're a hypocrite because most of your claims are based on speculated bs.

And excuse me, this coming from the guy who thinks Morrigan is nigh-omnipotent. 😕 crylaugh

No, the KOSMOS thing made no sense IMO. TWS is a beam, that only busted the universe cause it collided with UDO'S(God), how would it destroy the universe on its own?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Classic Beyonder would turn Kain into a baloon animal. 😬

2. Fire Ninja did prove that the power of the souls. Also, there are about 6 billion Makai, and 30 billion beasts...hey, thanks for making the number higher! Elder God above Jedah in soul powers? Lol, Jedah in one sitting ate ALL of Makai's souls and made a dimension from ONE!

3. ...There is a BIG difference between a different realm having different timelines, and having no time at all. Jedah made everything in his dimension, or did time just decide to go into his dimension for fun? And he WASN'T amped on souls AT ALL, the first soul he took was Ozomu's, and he made the Majigen from it. He then ate all the others.

4. According to em, simply by making his dimension Makai was slowly destroyed, not to sure on that tho. Also, what stops him from eating Dante's soul, AT THE START OF THE FIGHT!?

1. no he would not, not if kain is in the LOKverse, you dont seem to realise that as soon as beyonder comes into it he would be deleted from excistence, if he tries to do anything to kain while not in it, it wont happen, because time in LOKverse is imutable, you cannot change it, kain being turned into a baloon animal doesnt happen...so it wont happen and Beyonder would not be able to do anything. Also when does pre-retcon beyonder turn a being into anything.

2. fasle theres a little over 120 "million" actualy makai beings, then youve got 30 billion beasts.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/567052/25007

at the bottom it says this, if this information is false, then provide your site of figuires.

3. no your not understanding what ime saying, if a human makes a chair, he doesnt make the forces that go with it, time doesnt decide, its not sentient, its like a force, gravity doesnt decide to effect the chair, it just does..time as albert einstein says is actually an illusion created by humans, Jedah controlling any time or creating it is nonsense, your trying to push him to things he isnt, all he does is create a reality consisting off his little castle....so he uses souls to make dimensions, he doesnt just make them out of thin air, and when does he even destroy a dimension, since when is taking all the souls destroying the whole dimension...sillyness.

4. Dante stopping time at the start of the fight, he doesnt have to even move to use his powers.

Originally posted by Sado-sama

And excuse me, this coming from the guy who thinks Morrigan is nigh-omnipotent. 😕 crylaugh

😆 😂 🤣 Well at least I thought it cuz those EXACT words came from the comic.

You just thought that shit up cuz your an XTREME fanboy. Don't compare what I do to you...cuz your actions are alot worst.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1.he just gains stronger in power from souls he eats, nothing says by how much from what ive seen so far. Absorbs their power? what makes you say that, all it says he absorbs souls and gains power, where does it say each soul has the exact power as its owner? and that jedah absorbs the whole portion of that power...,a light bulb uses electrical energy to make light, but its overall output in energy is transfered into many other things so when jedah takes the energy the rest may dispure into other random energy sources.
It clearly says in Jedah's profile that Ozomu tells Jedah he must absorb the contents of the gate quickly cuz a lil "POWER" was seepin through.

And dude, souls aint light bulbs, of coarse if he takes a soul he will
gain its power, the soul and energy are the main things, used to fight with. You sayin different makes no sense and sounds like extreme denial to me, the energy of a living creature is FAR from that on an inanimate object.

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. he or his dimension?....you just menstioned his dimension, whos to say he>his dimension and if this is actually even the tiniest comparison. Your saying because his dimension can rip up makai it means he can...
If Jedah can make a dimension then it's
HIS ABILITY. If he can make dimensions to destroy dimensions then...HE CAN DESTROY DIMENSIONS. What is so hard to understand about that?

Not to mention the fact he used a soul FAR weaker then his own to make the Majigen. If he used his own powers, dimensions would be obliterated in a blink.

Originally posted by Burning thought
3. Dante may do....depending on if he can use time fast enough, then hell last longer but i dont see him beating Jedah anyway. And go on then, prove it, if its in the game screenshot/camera shot it...if youve got the manuel, scan it in and post some info directly, or find some other source of relevent information (not unnoficial fansites that we dont even know if the develoeprs themselves have looked at)
Proof of what? If you mean Jedah's dimension destroying power, its been posted not only in his profile but in Morrigan's as well along with a few others. And these profiles and info have been posted already...A MILLION TIMES.

I don't see what the big deal with all this shit about Jedah can't destroy a dimension. In Jedah's ending he has been proved to be capable of an even greater feat...

The ability to erase and recreate all life...

peeps need to stop hating and start respectin the man's power, 4 reel, yo.

Originally posted by Em Dot Bison
It clearly says in Jedah's profile that Ozomu tells Jedah he must absorb the contents of the gate quickly cuz a lil "POWER" was seepin through.

And dude, souls aint light bulbs, of coarse if he takes a soul he will
gain its power, the soul and energy are the main things, used to fight with. You sayin different makes no sense and sounds like extreme denial to me, the energy of a living creature is FAR from that on an inanimate object.

If Jedah can make a dimension then it's
HIS ABILITY. If he can make dimensions to destroy dimensions then...HE CAN DESTROY DIMENSIONS. What is so hard to understand about that?

Not to mention the fact he used a soul FAR weaker then his own to make the Majigen. If he used his own powers, dimensions would be obliterated in a blink.

Proof of what? If you mean Jedah's dimension destroying power, its been posted not only in his profile but in Morrigan's as well along with a few others. And these profiles and info have been posted already...A MILLION TIMES.

I don't see what the big deal with all this shit about Jedah can't destroy a dimension. In Jedah's ending he has been proved to be capable of an even greater feat...

The ability to erase and recreate all life...

peeps need to stop hating and start respectin the man's power, 4 reel, yo.

nothing says anything about the soul itself having power, thats what your misunderstanding, just because a being has power doesnt mean it comes from their soul or their power is made up of it, this is shown to be untrue in many fictions so unless you can prove this is true that each soul has all the orginal power of the owner of the soul...then dont be foolish or assume

no its his ability to do so...with prep and ingrediants, like a man can make a chair with wood...not without it, Jedah needed the soul of ozmodu. and now your incredibly overhpying and assuming....if he probably cannot use his own soul and his own power is usless in comparison to him with souls at his disposal....

proof of what i asked for, and not some usless video that says nothing about it, ill post a tom and jerry video next time for proof of Yoshis omnipotence 🙄 you need to actually show something of worth...

ah thats where your wrong and your credability melts into nothing....he only states in his ending he plans to recreate excistence, but he doesnt do it, all the ending shows is him taking makai souls, feeding the baby and then he says hes taking the human realm next..doesnt sound like hes already destryoed all of the excistence yet...

peeps need to stop exagerating and overhpying Dstalker power or give real hard evidence. Your comments here show just how foolish Dstker hype can get

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. no he would not, not if kain is in the LOKverse, you dont seem to realise that as soon as beyonder comes into it he would be deleted from excistence, if he tries to do anything to kain while not in it, it wont happen, because time in LOKverse is imutable, you cannot change it, kain being turned into a baloon animal doesnt happen...so it wont happen and Beyonder would not be able to do anything. Also when does pre-retcon beyonder turn a being into anything.

2. fasle theres a little over 120 "million" actualy makai beings, then youve got 30 billion beasts.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/567052/25007

at the bottom it says this, if this information is false, then provide your site of figuires.

3. no your not understanding what ime saying, if a human makes a chair, he doesnt make the forces that go with it, time doesnt decide, its not sentient, its like a force, gravity doesnt decide to effect the chair, it just does..time as albert einstein says is actually an illusion created by humans, Jedah controlling any time or creating it is nonsense, your trying to push him to things he isnt, all he does is create a reality consisting off his little castle....so he uses souls to make dimensions, he doesnt just make them out of thin air, and when does he even destroy a dimension, since when is taking all the souls destroying the whole dimension...sillyness.

4. Dante stopping time at the start of the fight, he doesnt have to even move to use his powers.

1. Wtf? So your saying that because Beyonder never existed in LOKverse, and was never planned to, he can't? I could say the same about ANY fictional character. Also, Beyonder's power description is pretty much, he can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he wants.

2. Hmmm...I concede this point, it was 30,120,000,000 souls then. Each with AT LEAST 10 times more power than what it takes to bust a planet. 🙂 That link you just posted should say that.

3. Thing is, the materials to make the chair already existed and were affected by gravity. He made something out of a soul, which is eternal(not affected by time) and immaterial(not affected by gravity), and made a dimension, a new plane of existence, which had no time or gravity affecting it when it was a soul. His reality so far only was a castle, after destroying the human world and eating its souls he would have finished it. According to em, his dimension destroyed, or rather, absorbed the current one.

4. True. How is Dante killing Jedah however?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Wtf? So your saying that because Beyonder never existed in LOKverse, and was never planned to, he can't? I could say the same about ANY fictional character. Also, Beyonder's power description is pretty much, he can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he wants.

2. Hmmm...I concede this point, it was 30,120,000,000 souls then. Each with AT LEAST 10 times more power than what it takes to bust a planet. 🙂 That link you just posted should say that.

3. Thing is, the materials to make the chair already existed and were affected by gravity. He made something out of a soul, which is eternal(not affected by time) and immaterial(not affected by gravity), and made a dimension, a new plane of existence, which had no time or gravity affecting it when it was a soul. His reality so far only was a castle, after destroying the human world and eating its souls he would have finished it. According to em, his dimension destroyed, or rather, absorbed the current one.

4. True. How is Dante killing Jedah however?

1. thats right he cannot, because time is immutable in LOKverse, its rules by the omnipotent writers, omnipotent writer=TOAA>Beyonder . Depends what your talking about ,if any charachter who is not supposed to be in the LOKverse goes into it, their deleted from excistence because they never excisted, and time in LOKverse deletes things or destroys them if their not supposed to be, like it does to the indestructable reaver.

2. does it, can you quote it please

3. the Material in this caste for jedah is the soul, also who says its not affected by time, as i said time is an illusion, time is simply a representation of whats here, then now...the soul is here, then now..then a dimension when Jedah creates it, can you even measure creating a dimension in power? how is this feat seen as powerful in any way to you, especially since it consist of his castle nothing else.

4. he is not, he loses, just not as quickly as you say he is going to, when his time powers run out, he gets defeated.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. thats right he cannot, because time is immutable in LOKverse, its rules by the omnipotent writers, omnipotent writer=TOAA>Beyonder . Depends what your talking about ,if any charachter who is not supposed to be in the LOKverse goes into it, their deleted from excistence because they never excisted, and time in LOKverse deletes things or destroys them if their not supposed to be, like it does to the indestructable reaver.

2. does it, can you quote it please

3. the Material in this caste for jedah is the soul, also who says its not affected by time, as i said time is an illusion, time is simply a representation of whats here, then now...the soul is here, then now..then a dimension when Jedah creates it, can you even measure creating a dimension in power? how is this feat seen as powerful in any way to you, especially since it consist of his castle nothing else.

4. he is not, he loses, just not as quickly as you say he is going to, when his time powers run out, he gets defeated.

1. Kay. Same can be said for any verse.

2. I'll look, that's a big article mane.

3. The material is a soul, yes, but time is clearly not an illusion in all areas of fiction, as characters like Dante can stop it. Creating a dimension is powerful, it absorbed another dimension slowly as well, also, it is only empty for the time being, it is mostly comprised of Dark Matter most likely, that and Jedah's castle.

4. It is still technically a second. 😄

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Kay. Same can be said for any verse.

2. I'll look, that's a big article mane.

3. The material is a soul, yes, but time is clearly not an illusion in all areas of fiction, as characters like Dante can stop it. Creating a dimension is powerful, it absorbed another dimension slowly as well, also, it is only empty for the time being, it is mostly comprised of Dark Matter most likely, that and Jedah's castle.

4. It is still technically a second. 😄

1. erm no it cannot....because it has not been said, not all verses destroy things in their timeline that shouldnt be there, in Marvel characters can move through time always and do things in time they never did before, luckily for the beyonder and other entities Marvel time is not immutable, unfortunatley for him, LOKverse time is, so he cannot touch kain in his own verse.

2. so you said the proofs there without actually knowing, "sigh" its not that big.

3. creating a dimension is powerful how? a big dimension consisting of many things yes, just his castle...no....assuming Jedah created and controls time is foolish even tho he created his own realm, unless you can prove the realm actually has time and not just a timeless darkmatter space then i am unconvinced of such a puposterous idea of jedah being a time master.

4. hmm possibly, although Dantes "time stop" is more of a time lag i think, depending on what he uses to do it, things usually slow down.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. erm no it cannot....because it has not been said, not all verses destroy things in their timeline that shouldnt be there, in Marvel characters can move through time always and do things in time they never did before, luckily for the beyonder and other entities Marvel time is not immutable, unfortunatley for him, LOKverse time is, so he cannot touch kain in his own verse.

2. so you said the proofs there without actually knowing, "sigh" its not that big.

3. creating a dimension is powerful how? a big dimension consisting of many things yes, just his castle...no....assuming Jedah created and controls time is foolish even tho he created his own realm, unless you can prove the realm actually has time and not just a timeless darkmatter space then i am unconvinced of such a puposterous idea of jedah being a time master.

4. hmm possibly, although Dantes "time stop" is more of a time lag i think, depending on what he uses to do it, things usually slow down.

1. Whatever. Irrevelant point anyway.

2. No, I read it there, just can't remember what section. Also, I just read sumthin, it said,"Several hundred trillion Makai creatures live in this world and each of
them build up their own society and territories. A human would not even last
a day in the harsh world of Makai." So basically, there are several hundred trillion Makai, and they all live in a harsh environment that no human could.

3. He only started it small, he wasn't finished, he wanted to absorb the human dimension into the Majigen before finishing it. He created the time of his realm, the same way he created the Dark Matter, gravity, and space of his dimension. This is not hard to get. Time must exist in a dimension.

4. Whatever, point is Jedah quite comfortably stomps Dante.