Rhino versus Sabretooth

Originally posted by Chikorita
adamantium is not sharper than normal metal. just impossible to break. morons.

the sabretoth fanboyism must stop

Adamantium, well, at least Wolverine's adamantium, IS made to be incredibly sharp. It is unknown whether this is unique to Wolverine's adamantium claws, or a property of the metal in general. If we are to assume that Sabretooth's claws are as sharp as Wolverine's, then Rhino is NO problem.

But anyways, I dunno how much it'd take to put Rhino down. But I doubt class 15 Sabretooth's got it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Adamantium, well, at least Wolverine's adamantium, IS made to be incredibly sharp. It is unknown whether this is unique to Wolverine's adamantium claws, or a property of the metal in general. If we are to assume that Sabretooth's claws are as sharp as Wolverine's, then Rhino is NO problem.

But anyways, I dunno how much it'd take to put Rhino down. But I doubt class 15 Sabretooth's got it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Spiderman is stronger than Creed right? How does Spiderman usually beat Rhino?

Honestly? It all depends. For the most part it's a powerful mix of stick-and-move attacks combined with environmental factors. Spidey's use of the environment is a big factor in his wins against Rhino.

Originally posted by capt it up
but class 10 spdierman does?

Class 20+, you mean?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly? It all depends. For the most part it's a powerful mix of stick-and-move attacks combined with environmental factors. Spidey's use of the environment is a big factor in his wins against Rhino.

Has he ever knocked Rhino out? Cuz if he can't, I don't see Creed doing it.

Spidey's agility makes him an incredibly hard target for Rhino to deal with, which is why he is so effective against Rhino.

Creed, on the other hand, is not as agile and needs to get close, playing right into Rhino's hands.

I don't think Creed can even get 1 victory straight out fight against Rhino, the only way he'd win is if he tries to outsmart Rhino.

Rhino at least 7 out of ten

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Class 20+, you mean?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Has he ever knocked Rhino out? Cuz if he can't, I don't see Creed doing it.

Spidey's agility makes him an incredibly hard target for Rhino to deal with, which is why he is so effective against Rhino.

Creed, on the other hand, is not as agile and needs to get close, playing right into Rhino's hands.

I don't think Creed can even get 1 victory straight out fight against Rhino, the only way he'd win is if he tries to outsmart Rhino.

Originally posted by masterbruce
honestly, I don't see Rhino losing this.

I don't think he can cut Rhino with his claws. and his punches aren't going to hurt Rhino too much while Rhino could knock the stuffing outta Creed.

sabretooth and spiderman are in the same league strength wise... besides.. what happens when sabretooth rips rhino's face off?

Sabretooth was EXTREMELY fast back in his marauders days (faster than wolverine) and he's been improved three times over since then... 😐

Sabretooth's got the skills to humiliate rhino too, he's a level 6 (7 by some charts) on the fighting scale, and even wolverine has commented on several occasions on how sabretooth's fighting ability is in a word.. superb. He proved in a fight with wolverine that if he doesn't want to be hit in a fasion he dislikes he doesn't have to be,

Not to mention sabretooth's healing factor and durability...

back in his marauder days he took down samson a mutant with immense super strength, then fought caliban right after that and had caliban on the ropes before rictor interviened, he then got a direct hit from cannonball and presumably took everything rictor could dish out, and he STILL wasn't phased.
the guy took on constrictor beat his ass in spite of getting blasted with his coils, and the neuro collar sabes wore at the time, then he took a direct hit from the iron fist, and then took a prolonged beating from luke cage.. he he STILL didn't go down...
He clobbered omega red AFTER OR got the drop on him, (omega red has delivered some beatings to the likes of cable, iron man, rogue, and collosus.

the guy outslugged mrs. marvel, and he's knocked out rogue in three hits.. both of those occured BEFORE his graydon creed enhancements...

He's taken a full on assualt from rogue, who burried his head into a concrete wall continuously pounding on him, and he just noncholantly plucked himself back out after she accidently touched his skin and went crazy...

When x-factor couldn't bring down one of onslaught's enhanced sentinals it wasn't the x-men that they turned to for help cause they already had (a big gun) Sabretooth, downstairs.

And his organic claws- they can rend through steel, wolverine cut through rhino's hide with one measily little swipe and he wasn't even trying. you think sabretooth's claws won't go through rhino's skin?

even if they didn' it wouldnt' matter.

After weapon x he made a fur coat out of wendigo, and completely PWNED two guys with superman-like capibilities.

He no sold maverick's concusive force blasts and walked right threw grenades and rocket launchers...

but he can't take rhino? 😕

there's something seriously wrong there..

Originally posted by Metalmanx
To my knowledge, Rhino is stronger than both Rogue and Ms. Marvel. He is class 80, if I remember correctly. He is also much more durable than the two, even though they are extremely durable themselves.

While Creed is a very skilled fighter (along with his other attributes), a non-jobbing Rhino should take him for the majority.

no he's not more durable.. again wolverine's noncholantly put his claws through rhino's skin without any effort at all, meanwhile roague has been able to take a glancing blow from his claws with virtually no effect.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Class 20+, you mean?

no he means class 10 since classic spiderman had every bit as much as was necessary to take it to rhino with blunt fists..

here's the thing, rhino's just as dangerous if not more to himself than he is to sabretooth, remember he has a bad pention for KOPing himself out when trying to gore his opponents.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Has he ever knocked Rhino out? Cuz if he can't, I don't see Creed doing it.

Spidey's agility makes him an incredibly hard target for Rhino to deal with, which is why he is so effective against Rhino.

Creed, on the other hand, is not as agile and needs to get close, playing right into Rhino's hands.

I don't think Creed can even get 1 victory straight out fight against Rhino, the only way he'd win is if he tries to outsmart Rhino.

actually creed's fast and agile as all hell, he's kept up with spiderman in a breif display of agility in his like 4th appearance, in his own series he uses spiderman like agility to leap and scale his way up a skyscraper and he's carrying a person on his back... what that, and the fact that his agility and speed had him closing the gap too fast for either spiderman or punisher to react and then promptly humiliated them... well.. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
what? spiderman has knocked rhino out with blunt fists... captain america PULVERIZED rhino with kicks and punches...

sabretooth and spiderman are in the same league strength wise... besides.. what happens when sabretooth rips rhino's face off?

Sabretooth was EXTREMELY fast back in his marauders days (faster than wolverine) and he's been improved three times over since then... 😐

Sabretooth's got the skills to humiliate rhino too, he's a level 6 (7 by some charts) on the fighting scale, and even wolverine has commented on several occasions on how sabretooth's fighting ability is in a word.. superb. He proved in a fight with wolverine that if he doesn't want to be hit in a fasion he dislikes he doesn't have to be,

Not to mention sabretooth's healing factor and durability...

back in his marauder days he took down samson a mutant with immense super strength, then fought caliban right after that and had caliban on the ropes before rictor interviened, he then got a direct hit from cannonball and presumably took everything rictor could dish out, and he STILL wasn't phased.
the guy took on constrictor beat his ass in spite of getting blasted with his coils, and the neuro collar sabes wore at the time, then he took a direct hit from the iron fist, and then took a prolonged beating from luke cage.. he he STILL didn't go down...
He clobbered omega red AFTER OR got the drop on him, (omega red has delivered some beatings to the likes of cable, iron man, rogue, and collosus.

the guy outslugged mrs. marvel, and he's knocked out rogue in three hits.. both of those occured BEFORE his graydon creed enhancements...

He's taken a full on assualt from rogue, who burried his head into a concrete wall continuously pounding on him, and he just noncholantly plucked himself back out after she accidently touched his skin and went crazy...

When x-factor couldn't bring down one of onslaught's enhanced sentinals it wasn't the x-men that they turned to for help cause they already had (a big gun) Sabretooth, downstairs.

And his organic claws- they can rend through steel, wolverine cut through rhino's hide with one measily little swipe and he wasn't even trying. you think sabretooth's claws won't go through rhino's skin?

even if they didn' it wouldnt' matter.

After weapon x he made a fur coat out of wendigo, and completely PWNED two guys with superman-like capibilities.

He no sold maverick's concusive force blasts and walked right threw grenades and rocket launchers...

but he can't take rhino? 😕

there's something seriously wrong there..

Okay, I'm convinced. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Looks like Sabretooth would win this one.

Originally posted by jinzin
no he's not more durable.. again wolverine's noncholantly put his claws through rhino's skin without any effort at all, meanwhile roague has been able to take a glancing blow from his claws with virtually no effect.

Really? I don't ever recall that. Well, neither of those instances really. Wolvie's claws had no affect on Rogue?

Originally posted by jinzin
no he means class 10 since classic spiderman had every bit as much as was necessary to take it to rhino with blunt fists..

here's the thing, rhino's just as dangerous if not more to himself than he is to sabretooth, remember he has a bad pention for KOPing himself out when trying to gore his opponents.

Ah, gotcha. I wasn't aware he was talking about classic Spidey. My apologies.

And yea, I guess that is true. Rhino does seem to do himself more damage than anything else. I'd honestly like to see Rhino become more of a threat. He could really be a great villian if he was just smarter.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, I'm convinced. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Looks like Sabretooth would win this one.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Really? I don't ever recall that. Well, neither of those instances really. Wolvie's claws had no affect on Rogue?

first happened in alpha flight special one...
second happened in wolverine... ummm 150 something.. the first appearance of mr. x... like I said, it was only a glancing blow so I'm not sure if that has any leverage in a forum fight... considering the counter evidence at least.. but yes rogue was unharmed.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah, gotcha. I wasn't aware he was talking about classic Spidey. My apologies.

And yea, I guess that is true. Rhino does seem to do himself more damage than anything else. I'd honestly like to see Rhino become more of a threat. He could really be a great villian if he was just smarter.

Well there is a storyline where rhino aquires genious level intellect.. he absolutely curbstomped spidey after that... but when his life started falling apart he went back to the scientists that helped him to make him dumber... even worse than he was before.

on a side note: another thing I forgot was killpower.. killpower's slugged it out with death's head and death metal (both class 60-100), invulnerability is one of his described capibilities and he's even stalemated hercules in an arm wrestling contest...
sabretooth kicked his ass.

Originally posted by jinzin
Well there is a storyline where rhino aquires genious level intellect.. he absolutely curbstomped spidey after that... but when his life started falling apart he went back to the scientists that helped him to make him dumber... even worse than he was before.

Yea. I've read that. That's why I'd like to see that happen for real, at least for awhile. Rhino has such potential, but he's just too damn dumb.

Ah well. Sabes wins this.

what? spiderman has knocked rhino out with blunt fists... captain america PULVERIZED rhino with kicks and punches...

I thought no one jobs on KMC forums, no?

Sabretooth was EXTREMELY fast back in his marauders days (faster than wolverine) and he's been improved three times over since then... 😐

Yet it's still not enough to take Wolverine 😐 And Rhino had no problems tagging Spider-man recently.

Sabretooth's got the skills to humiliate rhino too, he's a level 6 (7 by some charts) on the fighting scale, and even wolverine has commented on several occasions on how sabretooth's fighting ability is in a word.. superb. He proved in a fight with wolverine that if he doesn't want to be hit in a fasion he dislikes he doesn't have to be,

What is he going to do? Throw a "judo punch"? 😆

Not to mention sabretooth's healing factor and durability...
He clobbered omega red AFTER OR got the drop on him, (omega red has delivered some beatings to the likes of cable, iron man, rogue, and collosus.

Uh, didn't a powerless Cable hold his own against Omega Red pretty well?

He's taken a full on assualt from rogue, who burried his head into a concrete wall continuously pounding on him, and he just noncholantly plucked himself back out after she accidently touched his skin and went crazy...

Nope, Rogue hits him exatly 3 times. Counting the first throw. Yet those 3 hits did a lot as the comic states that "Sabretooth reaches clumsily & tries to claw Rogue"
And in the same issue Bishop KOs Sabes with only one blast.

And his organic claws- they can rend through steel, wolverine cut through rhino's hide with one measily little swipe and he wasn't even trying. you think sabretooth's claws won't go through rhino's skin?

Well, Rhino's skin has been stated to be unbreakable recently. Go figure wether that will last or not. He has gotten some upgrades down the road too.

He no sold maverick's concusive force blasts and walked right threw grenades and rocket launchers...

Rocketlaunchers? And I think Maverick only threw one grenade, and then Sabes suprised him and impaled him with his hand. Can't recall exactly though.

but he can't take rhino? 😕

Hell no 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Jyppe
The Rhino takes Hulk's punches, but I'd go with sabes anyway..

changing your mind?

Rhino gets his eyes ripped out. Sabretooth is a better fighter, more cunning, and fierce. Sabes 7/10.

Originally posted by masterbruce
changing your mind?

eh, jyppe just likes to argue with me for the sake of it sometimes.

sabretooth cant hurt rhino, only scratch him a bit
but rhino will do mortal damage