Originally posted by masterbruce
Rhino cannot lose thisHe is more than 4 times stronger than Sabretooth
He is a hell of a lot more durable...the guy runs into walls and tanks...you think sabretooth punches are more powerful than a tank ramming into you? i don't think so
Rhino wins 8/10 (the 2 times he loses are if Sabretooth mauls his face and then attacks him)
...What kind of logic is that? Ben Grimm can walk straight into a tank, and he got mauled by Wolverine.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Jobbing is part of Rhino's character? I don't think it would matter anywas, but stupidity. THAT would be taken in consideration..I thought all fights are blood blusted and the fighters fight best as they can, but I'm not entirely sure about it.
Originally posted by Jyppe
😆 Thanos can be cut by adamantium but not by Wolverine's strenght. Not even likes of Galactus & Odin made such damage as Wolverine.You can't even admit that the bone claw incident was 100% PIS? 🙄
K see, here's the thing... my question being...
how do you know for sure?
Has anyone ever tried to cut thanos aside from wolvs? I mean I'm open to evidence as it's presented.. and while thano's proof of durability is no doubt impressive, how are we not certain he suffers from wonder woman syndrome?
If there's evidence I'll back it, so far i've not seen it. 😕
Originally posted by Jyppe
He did have proof to back it up at the moment though. I agreed with nearly everything he said in the Sabes vs Wolvie thread and didn't feel like typing it all out, so I summed it up with a short statement. I know he's very Wolverine biased, but still. I couldn't tell if he was being that biased in the debate.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Because he recently had NO problems hitting Spider-man. AT ALL. We're using current versions of the characters, are we not (except that Sabretooth doesn't have his adamantium skeleton. Does he even have it anymore, I think he didn't have it in the Uncanny X-men on going..)
I've not seen this encounter honestly.. so I ask you for scans here..
sabretooth's admantium skeleton is at this point ambiguous... it's unknown by showings alone whether he has it or not.. though he certainly could have lost it during HOM.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Do you think Luke Cage's punches equal to Bishop's blasts? I don't think so.
Originally posted by Jyppeor amiddle ground.. which I'm fine with doing..
The issue shows that Sabretooth wasn't supposed to be this super duper guy with awesome damage soak. I'll admit that it's a low end feat (Never did I say anything else 😖) but we either need to consider all feats for both characters, even as bad as this, or just the high end feats.
Originally posted by Jyppetrue.. it COULD be contingent.
He was mindblasted by Xavier couple of times before, and he was shot once to the back before the headshot. Even though he would have logically healed them complitely before the headshot. Besides, maybe Bishop hit the right spot, there are lots of sensitive areas in our skulls. Nerve clusters etc.
Originally posted by Jyppeyou brought up the feat for demonstrations so i thought this was an implication.
When did I ever imply that? When did I ever state that Rhino could do the same with a mere punch? Never. I doubt there are many 100cl bricks who could one shot Sabes.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Only a part of his glove is torn. That happens in the second panel. The whole skirmish takes place between the 2 speech bubbles Rogue has. not that long.
Tell me, how we're ignoring the storytelling? Does the comic state how long the fight lasted? nope, all we have are the 3 panels. And, rogue stating that she has to hit him many times tells us that she hasn't already hit him that many times.
I never stated it wasn't impressive, I just don't think Rogue was wailing on him that much. He does have at least 4 panels to heal it too. I just wanted to correct your statement about the skirmish a little.
fair enough.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Juggernaut does state that his skin is unbreakable and stucks the gun in to his mouth and "boom". I don't think anyone has pierced his hide in a quite some time. His horn was blown off though, by punisher.
vs. the 50 ton lifting juggs?
Yeah i'm still not convinced that rhino isn't prone to WW syndrome himself.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Uh, Relax.. It's just a comic book forums. I have no grudge against you what so ever. Do you really think the guy with a Rhino sig wouldn't show up in a Rhino thread? I don't think Rhino will win the majority, but I think he could take a few. Sabretooth would attack his face and possibly cause enough damage to KO him, or at least blind him. And, puh-please. He's Rhino 🙂I just didn't agree with some stuff you said in the thread, k?
the rules also say that CIS isn't exempt in these debates.. i find that rhino's jobbing IS in fact a byproduct of his stupidity (as partially proven when he turned genious), thus I find that Rhino's jobbing is likewise not exempt from these debates.
Fair enough, though that means Rhino wont win any fights on KMC then.. 🙁 ❌
K see, here's the thing... my question being...how do you know for sure?
Has anyone ever tried to cut thanos aside from wolvs? I mean I'm open to evidence as it's presented.. and while thano's proof of durability is no doubt impressive, how are we not certain he suffers from wonder woman syndrome?
If there's evidence I'll back it, so far i've not seen it.
Well, ok, but IMO it's just common sense that human made adamantium blades would not do a thing to a cosmic powerhouse. But since this is off topic and my original comment was kinda a low blow, I'll it be.
Yes he did have proof.... to back up that wolverine has beaten sabes at least.. and no one said he hasn't... did he have proof that sabretooth's been defeated more times on panal straight up? nah...
Is the topic still up, did you guys reach a conclusion?
I've not seen this encounter honestly.. so I ask you for scans here..
sabretooth's admantium skeleton is at this point ambiguous... it's unknown by showings alone whether he has it or not.. though he certainly could have lost it during HOM.
It's in the ownage thread, i'll look into finding it later on.
to bishop's shotgun blasts? yes.
You do know that he just redirects his own energy through those guns, right? They aren't usual guns.
fair enough.
See, we can reach some kind of agreement.. 🙂
you talking about mutated rhino in the security hold?vs. the 50 ton lifting juggs?
Yeah i'm still not convinced that rhino isn't prone to WW syndrome himself.
Rhino was mutated? I think they just did some experiments on him.
Juggernaut who lifted nearly as much as Colossus & was whooping it with Sasquatch.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Fair enough, though that means Rhino wont win any fights on KMC then.. 🙁 ❌
exactly.. hence why i'm so shocked someone's actually standing up for him.. 😂
Originally posted by Jyppe
Well, ok, but IMO it's just common sense that human made adamantium blades would not do a thing to a cosmic powerhouse. But since this is off topic and my original comment was kinda a low blow, I'll it be.
comics don't exactly run on common sense which is why comic book proof is so important.
Originally posted by Jyppetopic's still up.. no conclusion.. we are decidedly not in agreement.
Is the topic still up, did you guys reach a conclusion?
Originally posted by Jyppe
It's in the ownage thread, i'll look into finding it later on.
k
Originally posted by Jyppe
You do know that he just redirects his own energy through those guns, right? They aren't usual guns.
no, I'm well aware of that.. but again.. he's pumped himself up with half the energy of the entire x-mansion and he blasted sabretooth point blank with it... and sabes still didn't go down... then he nailed sabes again. and sabes was still concious... and that was all after jubillee blasted him point blank as well.. wasn't until she brought a tazer into the fray that sabes got put down.. which is why i think that shotgun incident is nonsense.. especially in context to the fact that he was shrugging of rogues blows like nothing in that same issue. 😬
woops anyways.. i'm tangenting.. my point before was.. i think i've seen human's in low grade armor take bishop's shotgun blast and remain concious... regardless i think that luke cage more than likely hits harder than what bishop hit him with there.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Rhino was mutated? I think they just did some experiments on him.Juggernaut who lifted nearly as much as Colossus & was whooping it with Sasquatch.