Even IF rhino jobs, it's part of his character.. you can't just simply ignore character attributes like that one...Jobbing is taken into consideration all the time so I'm not sure what the hell you're even reffering to there.
Jobbing is part of Rhino's character? I don't think it would matter anywas, but stupidity. THAT would be taken in consideration..
I thought all fights are blood blusted and the fighters fight best as they can, but I'm not entirely sure about it.
...aaaand there you go being an ass-hat again...
Until someone can prove that thano's can't be cut by admantium forged blades it's only ASSUMED to be PIS and not proven regardless...
Though the bone claw incident may very well be PIS.
😆 Thanos can be cut by adamantium but not by Wolverine's strenght. Not even likes of Galactus & Odin made such damage as Wolverine.
You can't even admit that the bone claw incident was 100% PIS? 🙄
Okay so NOW what riceroost says has value?
hmmm funny subjective use of his opinion in this debate...
He did have proof to back it up at the moment though. I agreed with nearly everything he said in the Sabes vs Wolvie thread and didn't feel like typing it all out, so I summed it up with a short statement. I know he's very Wolverine biased, but still. I couldn't tell if he was being that biased in the debate.
No one said rhino can't touch sabretooth, but rhino doesn't consistently tag spiderman like.... at all.... so I'm not sure why you're trying to use that as a standard of evidence.
Because he recently had NO problems hitting Spider-man. AT ALL. We're using current versions of the characters, are we not (except that Sabretooth doesn't have his adamantium skeleton. Does he even have it anymore, I think he didn't have it in the Uncanny X-men on going..)
No, I'm talking about spetznaz supersoldiers... sabretooth couldn't claw through their skin, even though his claws were admantium forged.. so he broke them apart at the joints.
Hmm, a good point. Might work.
clearly I have not.
It happened, I'm not making anything up. I'm not sure how it exactly went though. I'll see if I can find the scans. 🙂
Rhino practically has NOTHING BUT low end showings...and you're being dense here.. I may have brought up the issue but sabretooth taking superhuman and brick punches and shrugging them off has been a part of his character since like, his third freakin appearance fighting luke cage...
bishop blasting sabretooth in the skull and it putting him down is NOT balancing anything out, it's bringing a completely low end non consistency to the forums like it has relevance here.. the fact is.. a majority of the time.. it doesn't.
Do you think Luke Cage's punches equal to Bishop's blasts? I don't think so. The issue shows that Sabretooth wasn't supposed to be this super duper guy with awesome damage soak. I'll admit that it's a low end feat (Never did I say anything else 😖) but we either need to consider all feats for both characters, even as bad as this, or just the high end feats.
He was mindblasted by Xavier couple of times before, and he was shot once to the back before the headshot. Even though he would have logically healed them complitely before the headshot. Besides, maybe Bishop hit the right spot, there are lots of sensitive areas in our skulls. Nerve clusters etc.
Bishop puts sabretooth down with a blast to the head... doesn't equate to rhino being able to do the same with a punch either but funny how you missed that little detail.
When did I ever imply that? When did I ever state that Rhino could do the same with a mere punch? Never. I doubt there are many 100cl bricks who could one shot Sabes.
any case, low end showing... sabretooth's taken direct hits from cyclops without going down, he took a full power blast from bishop after bishop pumped himself up with half the x-mansions energy and he STILL didn't go down... but bishop shoots him once and he keels over? and that's NOT a low end feat?
What's the point of this statement? I didn't say it wasn't a low end feat. 😕
that's the best we can do?so ignoring storytelling for the sake of the panals is the best we can do?
pffft..
look, sabretooth's clothes being ripped was a result of the assualt from rogue, it's likely that the beating was longer than three hits, especially considering rogues speed, and the fact that she says she has to hit creed a whole lot of times.. and even if it WAS three hits it still doesn't take away from the point I was making earlier concerning sabretooth's crazy durability... to take hits like that without an admantium skeleton and not even doing the bother of shruggin them off... that's not impressive?
Only a part of his glove is torn. That happens in the second panel. The whole skirmish takes place between the 2 speech bubbles Rogue has. not that long.
Tell me, how we're ignoring the storytelling? Does the comic state how long the fight lasted? nope, all we have are the 3 panels. And, rogue stating that she has to hit him many times tells us that she hasn't already hit him that many times.
I never stated it wasn't impressive, I just don't think Rogue was wailing on him that much. He does have at least 4 panels to heal it too. I just wanted to correct your statement about the skirmish a little.
how have i lost you the point was simple.. you don't have to have debated with me on the issue to have seen it and know the fact that spiderman hit wolverine A LOT of times.. even though only a few punches were thrown...
I can't remember the pages so I can't debate against this.
like the sabretooth example the panals go against story telling but they are embellished by storytelling so we know what's happened..
Uh, how do the panels go against what is being told in the Sabretooth example? There aren't any narrative panels stating "Rogue wails on Sabretooth mercilessly"
another example.. in hulk 180 hulk fights wendigo, the narrative describes a prolonged battle between the two where each creature exchanges "blow, after blow, after blow".. on panal they hit eachother a grand total of five times...another: wolverine in his first encounter with hulk thinks he can't cut through hulk's skin, in spite of the fact that on panal he's never actually shown to strike hulk by the time he says that.
There isn't any narrative stuff going on while Rogue smacks Creed around. If you mean that some punches COULD have been traded off screen, well then your guess is good as mine. Could have happened, could have not.
as anyone tried to?i mean he hasn't drowned lately either but I wouldn't assume that he's incapible of it..
Juggernaut does state that his skin is unbreakable and stucks the gun in to his mouth and "boom". I don't think anyone has pierced his hide in a quite some time. His horn was blown off though, by punisher.
smiley's tend to be pretty ambiguous in some occasions, and I did notice the other posts.. which is making me paranoid.. like you have some sort of vendetta against me or something.
Uh, Relax.. It's just a comic book forums. I have no grudge against you what so ever. Do you really think the guy with a Rhino sig wouldn't show up in a Rhino thread? I don't think Rhino will win the majority, but I think he could take a few. Sabretooth would attack his face and possibly cause enough damage to KO him, or at least blind him. And, puh-please. He's Rhino 🙂
I just didn't agree with some stuff you said in the thread, k?