Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Perhaps bat explosives creates explosions the size of what firecracker produces rowed up in a line formation as such that it mimics a blade which packs the power of a hand grenade....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😂
My thoughts exactly.
I stand by my statement:
Grenade to the face = grenade to the face = grenade to the face.
Doesn't matter if it's from Batman, Frank Castle, or Aunt May.
Originally posted by marvelprince
To which Wade says been there done that
Its bound to hurt though or at least slow him down.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Considering Cap is been stated to be the epitome of human perfection, essentially to a point that no other human can achieve by purely training I'd say he's justified in his strength
Thats not the point. The point is he is classified as peak human but has superhuman strength, therefore saying somebody is superhuman dont always mean **** at all.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Cap I could see, cause as I said no other human can reach Cap's level. They can get close enough to wear it won't make much of a difference but it'll be a factor nonetheless. Batman does NOT have superhuman reflexes
Well hes got superhuman strength and his dodging feats are impressive he probably does.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Close but not the same.
Can you prove that? Im talking about Bats and DP not Bats and Cap.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I don't think I said Shen is superhuman. If i did then I apologize. I meant that he's almost always in a constant state of chi amping, just like Shang (though I'm pretty sure thats what I said).
No im sure you said he was superhuman and hi chi amped, cant be assed to get the quotes.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Simple really. Remember how Logan managed to subdue Cap but slashing him? Something like that would do jack to Logan. W/o his healing factor I don't think Deadpool has much chance against Logan, but with it and in combo with his own "suicuidal" style of fighting and thinking smart he can score a win.
Well strategy is involved there but his healing factor is also a major part of him winning.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Well whatever Wolverine does to Wade he heals from. Plus its very hard to focus when in a fight with DP cause he doesn't shut up. Part of the reason he could make Wolverine look bad is by pissing him off
That aint gonna work on Bats.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Was that recently?
No idea ask Jinzin.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I don''t follow this. How does a bomb (albeit a small one) act as precise as a bladed weapon?
Well I dont know about precise but it would be more devastating. What would do more damage a sword on a pressure point or an explosive that exploded on a pressure point?
Originally posted by Juntai
However, it would still be a KO.
No it wouldn't. As I've pointed out before Wade has blown himself up before and retained consciousness. He can take lots of punishment.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Its bound to hurt though or at least slow him down.
For all of 3 seconds till he heals from it. My point still stands that he won't get the win that way.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats not the point. The point is he is classified as peak human but has superhuman strength, therefore saying somebody is superhuman dont always mean **** at all.
So you're saying that cause Cap is classified as peak human even though he has superhuman feats that the whole system is pointless cause you could argue that everyones strength level has now been brought into question.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well hes got superhuman strength and his dodging feats are impressive he probably does.
I've explained the concept of relativity in comic books in another thread so I won't go into here. Just know that in no way is Batman superhuman. He is peak human and thats it
Originally posted by Alfheim
Can you prove that? Im talking about Bats and DP not Bats and Cap.
Your the one with the problem with it so burden of proof kinda rests on you. Lets see though, Batman is just a man. Wade Wilson was also a man but during his Weapon X treatment he recieved the healing factor plus enhanced physical stats. Everyone knows that Batman has no powers so why is this even up for discussion?
Originally posted by Alfheim
No im sure you said he was superhuman and hi chi amped, cant be assed to get the quotes.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Yes he is, he has superhuman agility. The Cat is like the "bad" version of Shang Chi who constantly amps himself with the chi. And I think its amazing that you keep falling back to the Cat example as a measuring stick for DP's skills but seem to fail to acknowledge both times he punked Taskmaster, the times he hangs with Wolverine
You had said that Deadpool isn't agile and I answered that yes he does have superhuman agility. The rest is what i had to say about Shen Keui.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well strategy is involved there but his healing factor is also a major part of him winning.
I'm not disputing that at all. The healing factor is the only reason I give him the win over Bats anyway
Originally posted by Alfheim
That aint gonna work on Bats.
I don't see why not. Obviously it won't be to the extent as Logan's but I've seen Bruce provoked during fights many times. Ra Al Ghul comes to mind.
Originally posted by Alfheim
No idea ask Jinzin.
I will. I think he most recent appearances have been in Agent X and Cable and Deadpool though
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I dont know about precise but it would be more devastating. What would do more damage a sword on a pressure point or an explosive that exploded on a pressure point?
But a bomb wouldn't just hit the pressure point, it would completely blow it away. There's a big difference between nailing a spot on someones arm as opposed to blowing the arm off. Anyone can do that. As Soljer said a bomb = a bomb = a bomb no matter who's using it.
Originally posted by marvelprinceBut a bomb wouldn't just hit the pressure point, it would completely blow it away. There's a big difference between nailing a spot on someones arm as opposed to blowing the arm off. Anyone can do that. As Soljer said a bomb = a bomb = a bomb no matter who's using it.
Sucked the words right out of my mouth
What good is an explosive on a pressure point if the explosive completely obliterates the Pressure point?
And what is a pressure point anyways to someone who essentially doesnt feel any pain?
Originally posted by marvelprinceFor all of 3 seconds till he heals from it. My point still stands that he won't get the win that way.
What DP could be down for three second. What do you think Bats can do in three second? If that happens all Bats needs to do it hit him with three more exploves that could put him down for another nine second. To somebody who is fast nine seconds is a long time and its still a win.
Originally posted by marvelprince
So you're saying that cause Cap is classified as peak human even though he has superhuman feats that the whole system is pointless cause you could argue that everyones strength level has now been brought into question.
Its not just Capn the whole thing is messed up. DD doesnt have superhuman strength, I would call him peak human. Shang Chi feats could give him superhuman strength because he has kicked down a steel door. Saying that DD, The Beast and Nightcrawler has atheletic reflexes is bullshit because if that were true every man and his dog would be dodging bullets. DD, Beats and Nightcrawler have superhuman reflexes.
Again its not about the bar being rasied highier its the classification. DD doesnt just deflect bullets he bats them like a baseball player, even if he has a warning due to his senses he still needs to have superhuman reflexes.
Another thing Cap lifting 1100lbs with ease isnt even really a feat, he was just working out, and also he was unassisted and he was doing reps.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I've explained the concept of relativity in comic books in another thread so I won't go into here. Just know that in no way is Batman superhuman. He is peak human and thats it
Oh right so if you can kick down a tree that wouldnt be superhuman strength? If you can rip a a big metal pipe and then chuck it in the air thats not superhuman.
I repeat the end of human strength is around a 1000lbs, if you can lift more than that you are not superhuman, get it?
Originally posted by marvelprince
Your the one with the problem with it so burden of proof kinda rests on you. Lets see though, Batman is just a man. Wade Wilson was also a man but during his Weapon X treatment he recieved the healing factor plus enhanced physical stats. Everyone knows that Batman has no powers so why is this even up for discussion?
Arent you listening to what im saying. Batman has kicked down a tree I dont think 1000lbs would do that, and if you lookat his other feast Bats could probably lift a ton. According to marvel 1 ton is superhuman strength, therefore Batman is superhuman.
Originally posted by marvelprince
You had said that Deadpool isn't agile and I answered that yes he does have superhuman agility. The rest is what i had to say about Shen Keui.
Nevermind.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I'm not disputing that at all. The healing factor is the only reason I give him the win over Bats anyway
Fair enough but if Bats can keep his distance the explosives could work, its risky though.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I don't see why not. Obviously it won't be to the extent as Logan's but I've seen Bruce provoked during fights many times. Ra Al Ghul comes to mind.
I wouldnt say DP is as smart as Ras Al Ghul. Furthermore you can be irritated by somebody but that dont mean you lose control.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I will. I think he most recent appearances have been in Agent X and Cable and Deadpool though
Ok
Originally posted by marvelprinceBut a bomb wouldn't just hit the pressure point, it would completely blow it away. There's a big difference between nailing a spot on someones arm as opposed to blowing the arm off. Anyone can do that. As Soljer said a bomb = a bomb = a bomb no matter who's using it.
Yeah but from what you told me he has superhuman durability when the grenade blew up on him it injured him but alot remained intact. Therefore its like demoltion, you dont just randomnly place explosives you place the explosives at certain areas to make the explosives do more damage.
If DP had normal durability it would not matter.
Anyone who's had access to Batman Venom will have first hand familliarity with his feats, left for dead naked, arms shacked simultaneosly wrestling Great White sharks, saving alfred. surviving and stalemating a battalion of super soldiers [bare handed]
The soldiers had Prep, US millitary training, diamond like carbon plates grafted under the skin over throat vertebrae, joints pressure points, and superstrength and reflexes from the drug VENOM.
Batman was suckered when he deduced the identity of one of the Soldiers Timmy a former friend and son of a High Ranking General
Originally posted by don't shiv
Anyone who's had access to Batman Venom will have first hand familliarity with his feats, left for dead naked, arms shacked simultaneosly wrestling Great White sharks, saving alfred. surviving and stalemating a battalion of super soldiers [bare handed]
The soldiers had Prep, US millitary training, diamond like carbon plates grafted under the skin over throat vertebrae, joints pressure points, and superstrength and reflexes from the drug VENOM.Batman was suckered when he deduced the identity of one of the Soldiers Timmy a former friend and son of a High Ranking General
Im not talking about Batman Venom.