Kyle Rayner vs Wolverine ("will power battle")

Originally posted by bigbran
So, basically, you're basing Kyle's will off of one showing?
Hmm...

there's a lot more than that.. kyles willpower has always been a faltering point for the guy... he's got willpower sure.. and no one said he didn't.. but he's like spiderman in a lot of ways characteristically speaking and simple fact is that he'll flinch well before wolverine ever will in a contest of wills.

Originally posted by jinzin
doesn't wolverine do that on a routine basis? 😕

Like in the excutioners song when wolvie got shot with freaking bullets and faltered and even said his freaking ribs were broken. When he had adamantium. lol.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Logan wins.

cosigned, sidious. he heals from anything. his tenacity equals the hulk

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Oh Jinzin your "tactics" are so lame you keep bringing up the PIS/low showings of each character who is fighting against Wolverine in the threads and of course you forget about Wolverine's PIS and low showings.🙄

well that's some pretty pathetic opinion you've got there...

No i briing up character traits and consistency that shouldn't be overlooked in these forums.. something everyone who read through a respect thread seems to forget around here.

and who said I'm "forgetting" wolverine's low end showings.. it's not my job to set up an anti wolverine debate.. it's the other sides.. why should I have to?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Like in the excutioners song when wolvie got shot with freaking bullets and faltered and even said his freaking ribs were broken. When he had adamantium. lol.

cracked you mean?

he actually says that a lot.. but that has more to do with the anatomy of a ribcage moreso than the fact that his ribs were actually broken.. which obviously they weren't.

Hey guys...I think my adamantium ribs are broken, I got shot my non adamantium bullets

Originally posted by bigbran
With a healing factor?

what does the healing factor have to do with it?

wolverine 48 pretty much displayed that the HF is useless without the will to use it.. wolverine doesn't have to come back to life according to that story.. he chooses to, he wills himself to.

Originally posted by jinzin
doesn't wolverine do that on a routine basis? 😕

He comes back thanks to his HF not because he forces his body back to life.

Originally posted by jinzin
well that's some pretty pathetic opinion you've got there...

No i briing up character traits and consistency that shouldn't be overlooked in these forums.. something everyone who read through a respect thread seems to forget around here.

and who said I'm "forgetting" wolverine's low end showings.. it's not my job to set up an anti wolverine debate.. it's the other sides.. why should I have to?

Originally posted by jinzin
what does the healing factor have to do with it?

wolverine 48 pretty much displayed that the HF is useless without the will to use it.. wolverine doesn't have to come back to life according to that story.. he chooses to, he wills himself to.

hmm. Kyle, a guy who was a nobody with no powers, who got thrusted into being a hero, who lost 3 girlfreinds becuz of him being a hero, who created one of the universes most powerful cosmic beings, and then turned into one of the multiverses most powerful beings, against a scrappy mutants will? I'll take kyle's will over Wolverine. Kyle had the will to actually hold a big hang. The feat is in his will, not the power of the ring.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He comes back thanks to his HF not because he forces his body back to life.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah sure what was the 1st thing you come up with?
ZOMG KYLE LOST TO DEATHSTROKE AND WOLVERINE>>>>
DEATHSTROKE!!!!!
Pfff. ❌

and is it 100% accurate?
✅

did it happen?
✅

was anything I said there incorrect? ❌

Go Wolvie...beat the living day lights out that puke Kyle.

Originally posted by jinzin
and is it 100% accurate?
✅

did it happen?
✅

was anything I said there incorrect? ❌

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
hmm. Kyle, a guy who was a nobody with no powers, who got thrusted into being a hero, who lost 3 girlfreinds becuz of him being a hero, who created one of the universes most powerful cosmic beings, and then turned into one of the multiverses most powerful beings, against a scrappy mutants will? I'll take kyle's will over Wolverine. Kyle had the will to actually hold a big hang. The feat is in his will, not the power of the ring.

i don't see how kyle having cosmic power equates to him having more will... 😬

when wolverine went cosmic, then did he too have a greater will then his regular coutnerpart? 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
wrong.

So you're saying that sans HF he would revive from having his heart blown up.

Originally posted by jinzin
i don't see how kyle having cosmic power equates to him having more will... 😬

when wolverine went cosmic, then did he too have a greater will then his regular coutnerpart? 😬

Originally posted by steverules
Soon it'll be wolverine can beat Galactus and wolverine can bake better cookies that the girl scouts

Well he does bake great cookies! however if he ever offers you a brownie, politely decline. 😮

I really don't know enough about Kyle Rayner to enter this debate, I just wanted to make that bad joke and leave. 😮

Wolverine rejected to power of the Crystal of Ultimate vision. He was god, he could mold all of reality as he saw fit but he rejected that power because he knew it wasn't his place to do so, no matter how sound his rational. He rejected to power of god. Who else could do that? How many people can taste complete godlike power with out being corrupted?

EDIT: I know Kyle did similar with his powers as Ion, but not on the same scope IMO.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He rejected to power of god. Who else could do that? How many people can taste complete godlike power with out being corrupted?

Thanos got the HOTI and in the end came out arguably less corrput (seeing as how he sacrificed his life to remake reality).