Captain America versus Lady Shiva

Originally posted by Apolloknight
explain pls!?

Oh and before you do, ask yourself if you knew what Soljer meant when he said, "Martial Artist" and "Fighter"!

Captain America wins this.

the debate over who knows more martial arts styles is moot. Cap has his own style, but he's met and defeated practitioners of every single martial arts discipline known in the MU including those with unique styles and is STILL widely considered to be one of if not THE best fighters in 616.

Shiva's ability to read moves won't really help her. Thanks to the SSS, Cap is faster, and gave spider man, a super speed precognitive, HUGE problems during Civil War. Is shiva faster and better at dodging moves than spider man? hell no.

Cap has the strength edge. Cap has the speed edge, cap's reflexes and senses are flat out better. On top of that, thanks to the SSS, Cap won't tire at all during the fight since his body doesn't produce fatigue poisons. Even if every other stat was equal, (Which is isn't) shiva would wear down long before Cap thanks to this
alone.

Cap wins the majority.

don't even bother using the civil war fight as a gauge. Spidey didn't really want to fight Cap at all. He was doing a Deadpool with Cat thing with him. Spidey could have owned Cap with no problem he's beaten worse when he was still a teenager. and faster than Shiva doubtful when she dodges bullets at point-blank range easily without the need of a shield.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
don't even bother using the civil war fight as a gauge. Spidey didn't really want to fight Cap at all. He was doing a Deadpool with Cat thing with him. Spidey could have owned Cap with no problem he's beaten worse when he was still a teenager. and faster than Shiva doubtful when she dodges bullets at point-blank range easily without the need of a shield.

no, faster than shiva is fact. The SSS enhances speed and reflexes to it's highest point possible without being superhuman. Cap has run a mile in one minute flat. Shiva is not faster than cap is.

dodging bullets isn't much of a feat. Wolverine, Daredevil, batman, etc do this all the time.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
no, faster than shiva is fact. The SSS enhances speed and reflexes to it's highest point possible without being superhuman. Cap has run a mile in one minute flat. Shiva is not faster than cap is.

dodging bullets isn't much of a feat. Wolverine, Daredevil, batman, etc do this all the time.

Originally posted by capt it up
ya but wolverine is super human the other are not

superspeed is not among wolverine's attributes. in that regard, he's at best peak human.

but at point-blank range. meaning feet away from her. and she does it without any effort.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
but at point-blank range. meaning feet away from her. and she does it without any effort.

Capt done that as well. has shiva ever been stated as seeing the bullets in slow motion?

Originally posted by Superherovandal
but at point-blank range. meaning feet away from her. and she does it without any effort.

Honestly, its not a big deal, so many streetlevers do it now and days the bulletdogding feats are getting less and less impressive.

Cap has dodged lasers in zero g.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
superspeed is not among wolverine's attributes. in that regard, he's at best peak human.

combat speed is different from running speed and in that reguard he is clearly superhuman. He ahs moved so fats people can not even see him moving

Originally posted by Badabing
Cap has dodged lasers in zero g.

that's impossiable if it happen then any one of capt weight or heavier could do the same

Originally posted by capt it up
speed wise he in the same class as spiderman

combat speed is different from running speed and in that reguard he is clearly superhuman. He ahs moved so fats people can not even see him moving

Your out of your mind if you think Wolverines in Spidermans leauge of speed.

But thats another debate and we should keep it out of this Thread.

Originally posted by capt it up
that's impossiable if it happen then any one of capt weight or heavier could do the same

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Your out of your mind if you think Wolverines in Spidermans leauge of speed.

But thats another debate and we should keep it out of this Thread.

Originally posted by Badabing
It's comics so go figure.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Honestly, its not a big deal, so many streetlevers do it now and days the bulletdogding feats are getting less and less impressive.

That's what I was trying to say. every street leveler has done the same at some point or another by now.

the difference is that Captain america by definition is faster than anyone NOT classified as superhuman in terms of speed. Shiva, while a good martial artist isn't in this class.

Cap is flat out faster. there's no argument here. he's also stronger, and has a MASSIVE advantage in terms of endurance. Cap can go for far longer at peak output and that's fact.

Shiva might get a couple wins here and there but Cap has the clear edge.

Originally posted by capt it up
still if capt was able to do it then that would mean his ability to move would be like it is on earth which makes that feat not very impressive

Originally posted by Badabing
I never stated an opinion of the feat but just presented the feat.

Shiva would take it. Take a look at what Moon Dragon did to Capt A.

Originally posted by capt it up
true jsut a lot of capt fanboy hold on to the feat for dear life such as alfhim( how ever he spells it)