Test your own Morality

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I did give a real answer right after you posted actually.

What she might have done doesn't really matter. From my point of view (and techically from this traveler's view as well) the girl is completely innocent.

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Assume for the sake of this discussion that the info from the future is entirely reliable: It Will Happen. If not killed, this girl Would Definitely have ushered in WWIII (if it were to happen in, say, 30 years, you would certainly be affected). It's as absolute as Hitler growing up to become the dictator/slaughterer he becomes. Your/Our perception of the girl's innocence is a reflection of your/our limited time perception, just as Baby Hitler would be "innocent" to those of his time frame.

I would further state that, just as we see the Bigger Picture involving Hitler and therefore might feel entirely justified in killing him (again, no "but we don't know the consequences" in this thought experiment), this would be the POV of the time traveler informing you about the little girl.

Don't take Mindship wrong, he likes slapping his forehead.

I wouldn't kill baby Hitler for 1 simple reason.

Everything happens for a reason. If I stop Hitler, I myself may not exist. Nothing we know today may exist.

Originally posted by King Nothing
I wouldn't kill baby Hitler for 1 simple reason.

Everything happens for a reason. If I stop Hitler, I myself may not exist. Nothing we know today may exist.

1) How do you know everything happens for a reason?

How do you know Life isn't random ?

2) How would killing Hitler result in our non existance ? 🤨

2) How would killing Hitler result in our non existance ?

- Germany may have had a different leader........who made decsions to win the war or atleast extend it to the point where his, mine or your grandparents were killed before ever procreating.......which would have prevented us from ever being born.

there's no limit to the possibilities.........that's just the first one that popped up.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
2) How would killing Hitler result in our non existance ? 🤨

Alteration of personalites due to differing life experience, people surviving who shouldn't have, people dying who shouldn't have, individuals never meeting . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Alteration of personalites due to differing life experience, people surviving who shouldn't have, people dying who shouldn't have, individuals never meeting . . .

It seems to subscribe to the Chaos Theory

Killing Hitler in no way ensures your non-existance. Perhaps some people wouldn't exist as a result, but so many others would exist as a result.

Either way, the human race and the world wouldn't "cease to be" just because one event was changed.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It seems to subscribe to the Chaos Theory

Killing Hitler in no way ensures your non-existance. Perhaps some people wouldn't exist as a result, but so many others would exist as a result.

Either way, the human race and the world wouldn't "cease to be" just because one event was changed.

No, but I most likely would....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It seems to subscribe to the Chaos Theory

Killing Hitler in no way ensures your non-existance. Perhaps some people wouldn't exist as a result, but so many others would exist as a result.

Either way, the human race and the world wouldn't "cease to be" just because one event was changed.

Whatever happens. If u believe, all is granted. Some don't. Others worry. I live

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, but I most likely would....

How is that a bad thing ? 😛

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
How is that a bad thing ? 😛

No, I wouldn't.

why not ?

The only reason why Hitler got jewcrazy is that he got nerved gassed and survived. Now Nervegas fuks up your mind greatly. All I have to do is to prevent Hitler from Getting Nervegassed.

I wouldn't do it, it could serious repercussions on the future, besides humanity learned from the Holocaust, if the knowledge was lost who knows what could happen. And maybe one of the Jews lost could do something terrible in the future if they were alive. Which could even prevent your existence.

Too many variables and "What ifs" in this to justify such an action.

Originally posted by Darth Zedster
I wouldn't do it, it could serious repercussions on the future, besides humanity learned from the Holocaust, if the knowledge was lost who knows what could happen. And maybe one of the Jews lost could do something terrible in the future if they were alive. Which could even prevent your existence.

What exactly did Humanity learn ?

There is still genocide and human rights abuses all over the world.

to answer the question posed in this thread: Yes i would go back and kill Hitler. If for no other reason than to see how history would be different with no Adolf Hitler to dicate the course of human history since the 1930s.

Well, you'd create a paradox and destroy time itself, so... yes. Fascinating.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I thought of this question for months, and still never came up with an answer I am satisfied with:

[b]Presented Situation: Mankind has come up with a time machine that will allow you to travel back in time before the Holocaust began. Your mission is to go back in time and assassinate Hitler, in order to prevent the Holocaust from ever happening. If you kill Hitler, the Holocaust will not happen, and all those lives will be spared

The PROBLEM: The Time Machine will only work once, and you only have enough power and accurate coordinates to travel to the time when Hitler was an infant. You have to kill Hitler when he was 2 years old. This will be your only chance to kill him and prevent the horrible atrocity that is the Holocaust.

Question: Can you do it ? Would you kill the baby Adolf Hitler to prevent the Holocaust from ever happening ? Is killing one infant worth saving millions of lives ? [/B]

What's the problem? It's actually easier to kill infants than grown men surrounded by armies. In fact, even if the time machine could go back to any time in Hitler's life, I'd probably choose to go back to when he was an infant - you don't even need a weapon to kill him

Originally posted by Dreampanther
What's the problem? It's actually easier to kill infants than grown men surrounded by armies. In fact, even if the time machine could go back to any time in Hitler's life, I'd probably choose to go back to when he was an infant - you don't even need a weapon to kill him

I like that answer 😆