Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...............Every high expectation I had, is ruined. 👇 I hate the ****ing Phoenix Force. 😠 And making Apoc beg, and be revealed as a robot controlled by Sinister? BULLSHIT!
I'm sure Apoc will be back, especially after that ending. It seemed as if Sinister was only channeling Apocalypse.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI somewhat understand your frusteration, but that 'Apocalypse' was still a freakin' team wrecker, *recalls the last issue of Ult. X-Men droolio*
...............Every high expectation I had, is ruined. 👇 I hate the ****ing Phoenix Force. 😠 And making Apoc beg, and be revealed as a robot controlled by Sinister? BULLSHIT!
but meh, that probably wasn't the 'true' Ult. Apoc anyway. ermm
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...............Every high expectation I had, is ruined. 👇 I hate the ****ing Phoenix Force. 😠 And making Apoc beg, and be revealed as a robot controlled by Sinister? BULLSHIT!
What the hell are you complaining about? Phoenix had to use her full force to stop him, whats the problem here? You wanted Apoc to kick butt and he did.
The only problem is that it seems Apoc doesnt exist. haermm
Originally posted by Mr Master
it's pretty impressive to have survived this Full Power attack for so long.
Exactly. I mean, she did reverse everything like nothing, fix like nothing what happened, but actually put an effort against Apocalypse and couldn't put him down immediately.
So for Apocalypse, it shouldn't be a bad showing. On Earth, he was seemed by far the most powerful force and Earth combined force couldn't take him down. In time, he would become only more powerful.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And making Apoc beg, and be revealed as a robot controlled by Sinister? BULLSHIT!
We don't know that. What about those images Xavier saw Apocalypse in the past. Maybe Apocalypse only took Sinister body, but what we saw was probably actually Apocalypse and his powers.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Exactly. I mean, she did reverse everything like nothing, fix like nothing what happened, but actually put an effort against Apocalypse and couldn't put him down immediately.So for Apocalypse, it shouldn't be a bad showing. On Earth, he was seemed by far the most powerful force and Earth combined force couldn't take him down. In time, he would become only more powerful.
Exactly everybody wanted Apoc to kick butt and somebody is still complaining. What so we want Apoc to abstract or something?
Hmmm come to think of it maybe Apoc is kinda abstract like Nightmare or something were people can siphon his power like a god....speculation of course.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im just not sure what Apoc is. ermm
I think it was Apocalypse. It seems he needed a vessel and that was Sinister. Why he needed ten souls to accomplish this is unknown. But we did see his images in the past by Xavier. Maybe he lost his original body or something and he needs a vessel.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I am insanely curious about what the hell is going on with Apoc and the Celestials. Damn you Marvel!
Originally posted by Xplosive
You don't know how much I wanted Apocalypse to give her a tough fight, resistance.
Apocalypse actually facing one of the major cosmic powerhouses and to put her a fight. You know what that would mean, you know what powerhouse Apocalypse would be. Beast beyond what even we Apocalypse fans wanted.
But I always knew in my heart that if Phoenix want, she can end that without effort. But hoped it wouldn't happened that way.Then, Apocalypse we seen in Ultimate universe, wasn't powerful as originally when he conquered Earth, because then he absorbed other powers and always made him even more powerful. In the future he was even more powerful.
But I also must say that this was badly written comic. Full of plot holes to the continuity. And I still think Apocalypse should show some more resistance.
And we also must admit, despite Apocalypse involved in one of the best stories, we always wanted to his full powers, his great magnitude, to use all powers he has, not only one per comic, and still want so. I am especially talking for 616.
Ultimate Apocalypse was at least depicted as the most powerful, unstoppable force on Earth.
Originally posted by Xplosive
That is what bothers me, Apocalypse begging her to stop
Even with all the stronger characters out there than him, Apocalypse to me just never seemed the type who would beg for mercy, for obvious reasons, and seeing him do so (regardless of who he was fighting here) is just... ugh. I don't know how to describe it. 😘
Originally posted by Xplosive
Said his true form revealed (that is actually confusing and not an answer to Apocalypse and his image in the past, it must be explained in the future)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Especially when the PF needs to use ALL it's Power just to strip your armor:The Full PF is a Universal power yall,
whoever this is (Apoc or Sinister)
it's pretty impressive to have survived this Full Power attack for so long.Imo, this degrades the Force more than Apoc or Sinister (whoever)
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...............Every high expectation I had, is ruined. 👇 I hate the ****ing Phoenix Force. 😠 And making Apoc beg, and be revealed as a robot controlled by Sinister? BULLSHIT!
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I'm sure Apoc will be back, especially after that ending. It seemed as if Sinister was only channeling Apocalypse.
Originally posted by Galan007
but meh, that probably wasn't the 'true' Ult. Apoc anyway. ermm
Originally posted by Xplosive
I think it was Apocalypse. It seems he needed a vessel and that was Sinister. Why he needed ten souls to accomplish this is unknown. But we did see his images in the past by Xavier. Maybe he lost his original body or something and he needs a vessel.
Ok... After Phoenix resets the world and puts everything back to normal, erases everyones memory... WTF happens to Wolverine, Bishop and Cable?? Does Wolvie get his arm back and if not, how will they explain it?? Are all the mutants that were killed by Sinister brought back to life, including Bishop, and if not, how will they explain it??
What happens to Cable?? Does he go back to the future (one that may still exist or may be changed now)?? Does he stay and if so, is he still considered an enemy of the X-men?? If Wolvie does get his arm back, what does that mean for Cable-Wolvie??
Why even erase people memories of what happened?? That means they learn nothing, and if Apoc-Sinister (or the REAL Apoc) does return what then??
In the words of Comic-Book Guy: "Worst Writing Ever"
Originally posted by demarius_b
Why even erase people memories of what happened??
Well, Phoenix didn't erase memories to X-Men. They know what happened.
About Logan, he did get back his arm. And he was asked if Cable just vanished, Logan says not completely, probably because he is Cable, so till there is Logan, there will be Cable.
And about Apocalypse and Sinister, I think Apocalypse was only using Sinister body for channeling his powers.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Well, Phoenix didn't erase memories to X-Men. They know what happened.
About Logan, he did get back his arm. And he was asked if Cable just vanished, Logan says not completely, probably because he is Cable, so till there is Logan, there will be Cable.
And about Apocalypse and Sinister, I think Apocalypse was only using Sinister body for channeling his powers.
and what happens to Apoc-Sinister after he's defeated and return to normal?? Is he dead?? Is he stripped of his powers?? Who's in control of his mind... Apoc or Sinister??
Originally posted by demarius_b
So what about those that died, bringing Apoc to life in the 1st place?? Are they back??and what happens to Apoc-Sinister after he's defeated and return to normal?? Is he dead?? Is he stripped of his powers?? Who's in control of his mind... Apoc or Sinister??
I don't have an answer to any of that. Yes, it seems it was full of plot holes. Somehow to fill them, we should get all answers in the future concerning that.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
The story was crap. And Apoc was taken out too soon.
He was taken out too soon? What you mean after he stomped The Xmen, FF and an upgraded Xavier with Cable? 🤨
Originally posted by Xplosive
I think it was Apocalypse. It seems he needed a vessel and that was Sinister. Why he needed ten souls to accomplish this is unknown. But we did see his images in the past by Xavier. Maybe he lost his original body or something and he needs a vessel.
That means Apoc is possibly more powerful than we think. Mr Sinister could have channeled Apoc like Dr Strange channeled Zom.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He was taken out too soon? What you mean after he stomped The Xmen, FF and an upgraded Xavier with Cable? 🤨
Ultimate X-Men #90: Ult. Apoc finally appears.
Ultimate X-Men #91: Fights the X-Men, Morlocks and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ultimate X-Men #92: Fights FF, Xavier and Cable
Ultimate X-Men #93: Naked-She-Human-Torch-Deus-ex-Machina-girl beats Apoc at ludicrous speed.
Yes, he was taken out too soon.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Ultimate X-Men #90: Ult. Apoc finally appears.Ultimate X-Men #91: Fights the X-Men, Morlocks and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ultimate X-Men #92: Fights FF, Xavier and Cable
Ultimate X-Men #93: Naked-She-Human-Torch-Deus-ex-Machina-girl beats Apoc at ludicrous speed.
Yes, he was taken out too soon.
Ok but he kicked major butt. 😐
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Ultimate X-Men #90: Ult. Apoc finally appears.Ultimate X-Men #91: Fights the X-Men, Morlocks and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ultimate X-Men #92: Fights FF, Xavier and Cable
Ultimate X-Men #93: Naked-She-Human-Torch-Deus-ex-Machina-girl beats Apoc at ludicrous speed.
Yes, he was taken out too soon.
Well, he at least prove to be a powerhouse.
