Originally posted by grey fox
Shang chi kicks Franks ass up and down the street8/10 to the Shang-Man.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Punisher vs DDIf frank can put up this good of a fight against DD hes a top tier martial artist.
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Still giving it 8/10 to Shang? Im giving it 6/10 to Shang and maybe even 5/10
To his credit, Frank would put up a fight, and certainly put a severe hurting on Chi. However, even in those scans, Frank is clearly outclassed in skill and relies heavily on utter brutality to overcome his opponents (even though neither fight really finishes, and he is losing to DD when that fight ends...)
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I always thought Chi>Matt in martial arts. As far as I am concerned Chi should just out finesse Castle probably 7-8/10
Shang-Chi wins.
But if Frank is portrayed correctly he gives Shang a tough fight.
I mean Franks damage soak is fuggin insane to taking hits from USAgent, Doc Samson, to getting hit by tranqs as he still keeps on going.
Chi might be the better pure-martial artist but DD brings more to the table with his super-senses and Mystical Stick training.
Originally posted by inamilist
To his credit, Frank would put up a fight, and certainly put a severe hurting on Chi. However, even in those scans, Frank is clearly outclassed in skill and relies heavily on utter brutality to overcome his opponents (even though neither fight really finishes, and he is losing to DD when that fight ends...)
Im sorry but thats a little unfair. Frank may have used brutality in the fight but there was alot of martial arts as well. Frank even used a move on DD to dislocate his arm.
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POP!
There is also this fight as well.
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There is also another fight where Frank fights DD an has a good showing. I dont expect Frank to beat DD but he is good enough to pull some wins.
You also did not mention the fight which shows Frank beating up Bullseye. Bullseye is a better fighter than DD
Originally posted by inamilist
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I always thought Chi>Matt in martial arts. As far as I am concerned Chi should just out finesse Castle probably 7-8/10
Yeah but DD has a radar sense that helps heighten his skills so I would have thought that DD would beeat Shang Chi. DD has better reflexes than Chi and is probably better at pressure points than Chi. DD has used his senses to shatter diamond.
If Frank can give DD that much trouble Chi is only beating Frank 6/10 or even 5/10. .
Shang wins. Thats one confrontation you have of Matt actually a good fight from Frank, but in practically every other instance in their series Matt was getting the upper hand and beating him in most every instance.
Basically same thing in the fight with Bullseye. Bullseye was toying with Frank throughout their series. Frank is good, but Shang takes it to him