Originally posted by Metalmanx
Alf, could you do me a favor and stop thinking you're the only one who knows things about comics? Seriously, man. I like you, don't ruin that by assuming you're the only one with any knowledge of Frank's history. I see the scans just fine, too. Like I stated before, Frank is an INCREDIBLE fighter, 2nd Tier easily. And he's also a damage soak, which is not a bad thing. Frank's durability is so close to superhuman it's not even funny. But Shang is just lightyears away from Frank in terms of skill. As is DD really. But that would sure be a boring comic, wouldn't it?Shang wins this fight 9/10.
Ok metal im well and truly p***ed off with you right now, but i'll try to be as civil as possible, so lets try and discuss this like civilsed gentlemen.
I know you said you like me, but sometimes I find debating with you really infuriating. I know myself that I can over react and assume people are talking rubbish, but to be quite honest recently I dont think ive been too bad.
When I debate with you I dont think you really listen to anything I have to say and every time I have scans you've always got something negative to say about it.
I want you to sit back a minute and imagine your me and see how annoying this is.
First of all I give you a set of scans which show a good showing with Frank vs DD. What do you say? Its a lucky shot. Please help me out here in the Black Panther vs Iron fist thread you said this:
Originally posted by Metalmanx
My point was that if there is only one piece of evidence and it is written well on both sides, then I have no problem with it being used as evidence.
I dont understand this why cant that fight be taken as evidence to prove that Frank isnt lightyears behind Shang? Already you said that you can take one piece of evidence, but not in this case.
The thing that winds me up about you is that when it comes to analysing my scans the glass is always half empty. Lets think about this, the fight was about 7 pages long...I think. At any rate it was a long fight, if it was just luck Frank would have hit DD with a lucky shot and taken him down. Dont you think its unlikely that a vastly inferior fighter would last that long against DD?
That was a viable way of looking at those scans, but nooooo your only response was its a lucky fight.
Ok then there are my second scans. Do I get a response....no. I dont get it DD doesnt even hit Frank once in that fight. Frank hits DD twice and manages to throw DD over his back. Dont you think at least you should have the etiquette to at least address the scans?
Ok third scans Frank is fighting Bullseye and the fight ends with Frank choking the life out of Bullseye. Bullseye has beaten Elecktra before, right? I would have thought that Elecktra would put up a good fight against Shang.
Metal im not trying to offend you but half of the time I feel like im talking to a brick wall. DD could probably beat Shang Chi and take a majority, but Frank has good showings against him. Bullseye and Elecktra wouldnt do badly either and Frank has beaten Bullseye. So I really really really dont understand how you should be offended.
I should be offended because ive gone to the effort of producing the scans you havent given me anything. C'mon be honest what have you given to this debate, nothing. Any scans, no. Any explanations, no. Im producing all the evidence you're giving me nothing and you're getting pissed off with me?
Look at the above scans. Shang Chi is such a good fighter that he gets curbstomped by Wolverine. If Shang Chi is so good why didnt he put up a better fight?
Now this statement winds me up.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Frank is an INCREDIBLE fighter, 2nd Tier easily. And he's also a damage soak, which is not a bad thing.
This is the same **** you say about Cap. You say you like Cap and you think hes great, I then find you saying that you're tired of his jobber aura. Does that sound like somebody who thinks that Cap is great? Now im sure you said it I just cant find the quote.
You know what the real killer is though? You like Cap so much you came to the Cap respect thread and started arguing over minor details. In all fairness you did apologise but basically I had to ask you to leave.
My point is this, you say you think characters are incredible but what you say and what you do contradicts it. Hell you've never contributed anything positive to the Cap thread. Xmarksthespot hates Cap and hes contributed more to the thread. You like Cap so much the only thing you contributed to the Cap respect thread is negativity and your doing the same thing to Punisher.
