Wolverine Vs. 8,000,000 Grizly bears

Started by King_Mungi24 pages

Jinzin and I have had our spats in the past, but we usually always end up being respectful in the end. I got nothing against him.

I don't recall if C-Master and I ever had a spat, don't think so but hard to keep track.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Jinzin and I have had our spats in the past, but we usually always end up being respectful in the end. I got nothing against him.

I don't recall if C-Master and I ever had a spat, don't think so but hard to keep track.

Think back, you may remember...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Jinzin and I have had our spats in the past, but we usually always end up being respectful in the end. I got nothing against him.

I don't recall if C-Master and I ever had a spat, don't think so but hard to keep track.

Me and Jinzin have had dozens... we're typically like this, I've never argued with you.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Think back, you may remember...

I'm lazy..you remember something I don;t?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Me and Jinzin have had dozens... we're typically like this, I've never argued with you.

Well **** YOU! Well we had our first one now, how does that make you feel? Makes me cold 🙁

Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverines a moderate street levler? do you really think that little of him. Logan is not even a street leveler he above that and if he was a street leveler he be at the top of the list

What list are you babbling on about? I'm referring to "street-level" as a substance. Don't judge me. The powers themselves really aren't that great, sans the magically fueled healing factor and the claws that ignore mass and matter but that's thanks to the adamantium I hope. This why I only see him as slightly above street level.

He's like the katana of street levelers. And only if he was the only one being compared to a sword.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
What list are you babbling on about? I'm referring to "street-level" as a substance. Don't judge me. The powers themselves really aren't that great, sans the magically fueled healing factor and the claws that ignore mass and matter but that's thanks to the adamantium I hope. This why I only see him as slightly above street level.

He's like the katana of street levelers. And only if he was the only one being compared to a sword.

Meh, Wolverine certainly isn't street level.

Maybe we have different definitions of street level.

He has street level strength, speed, and skill - nothing cosmic about any of that.

But his healing factor alone gives him the ability to hang in a class of people WAY above him. Combined with the claws that ignore the laws of pressure and density, Wolverine can pretty much take any brick there is at least 50/50. Lest that brick has a healing factor himself, or is incredibly fast, that is.

Or durability, like Colossus or can incapacitate him, like Spiderman. He is still Street Leveler in many aspects, he's just made for bricks, he still has a long list of those he can't beat.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'm lazy..you remember something I don;t?

Well **** YOU! Well we had our first one now, how does that make you feel? Makes me cold 🙁

I feel... alive... 😈

Just for the record

Grizzley Bears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand Ninjas 😄

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
See this is what I mean, you say you don’t complain and that you’ve matured, but you really haven’t. All of your debates and posts reduce to you getting frustrated with you losing and failing to make your point and reducing yourself to petty namecalling, but this time I am not going to stoop to your level, I’m going to let you act like a ranting child. It’s not making your points sound any more valid; in reality it just makes you look immature. You’re what? 21? Grow up for once, I didn’t insult you at all, and anything I said was mildly humorous. Why are you so sensitive, especially with me? Do you have a chip on your shoulder? You are so mad that you are typing in fury with symbols all over the page. Cheer up. It’s gonna be alright. 🙂

C where the hell am I name calling here? Where am I complaining.. I said “oh for ****s sake” purely and simply because the length in which you always seem to drag these debates out ALWAYS ends up as something that has to be dealt with in multiple posts… They turn into pissing contests more than anything else.. It wasn’t complaining it was me in dismay at the length of your reply..
Grow up for once? Dude, in the last post you basically implied I’m not intelligent enough to comprehend words or understand them. In spite of pretending to take the high road now, you’ve ALREADY “stooped” to my level. Ranting like a child? Who’s ranting? I’m debating you point for point and now all you can do is make crap up that isn’t true because you (as usual) have nothing else to contribute here. And no that’s nice to see yourself over credit yourself yet again, but the symbols had nothing to do with you, I took your post to Microsoft Word because the reply box wasn’t big enough for the scope of our argument. When I pasted the counter argument the symbols suddenly appeared. Of course your ego can’t “comprehend” that, and the only possible explanation left is that I’m so mad I can’t type right.. pffft… or not… You don’t make me mad C. You make me laugh, you make me scoff, you make me raise an eyebrow to your “logic” but you don’t make me mad.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I see your ability to misinterpret my post is better than ever.

Yes, you tell me to grow up and then use a copy cat tactic to debate.. lol.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The sad part was that I was talking about the distance apart *two * posts ago and now I was talking about you leaving your posts intentionally vague and open to interpretation to change the interpretation later when people interpret it how you don’t want it interpreted. But I might as well point out your contradiction below.

And nothing more here than backtracking to cover your own ass.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Now even though I didn’t bring this up, isn’t the direction they are around him still… direction?

Yes, but that isn’t what I asked about… what I asked about was very clear, very simple, you misinterpreted something as simple as that and once again.. it’s my fault.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I give up, even Capt understood what I meant, you just don’t and won’t.

Of course you give up. There was no real explanation for that. There was no reason to bring up the term stealth missions and when I repeatedly ask you what the hell you were talking about you refuse to answer.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I’m blaming you for your ability to misinterpret posts to a degree that you are satisfied with and refusing to correct, instead relying on being obtuse and just overall repugnant.

And once again your hypocritical BULLSHIT comes through true to form.
You’re not stooping to my level but now I’m an offensive dimwit hmm?
Pffft… Not only is that contradictive but then we have the fact that you’re blaming me for misinterpreting your posts, when your posts were a result of misinterpreting mine..
Things haven’t changed between us that’s for damned sure, you’re still the kettle and I’m still the pot.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] Unfortunately in this whole situation, for you, the sadness kills the funny. Trying to look cocky all of the sudden really isn’t helping either. 😬 [B]

Trying to look cocky? Nooooo. I was laughing because I find your “version” of “logic” funny.. and to the whole cocky thing; No, that would be your game. Though in your defense, to look cocky you don’t really need to try..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] Obviously and in a natural surrounding it can make it harder for him not to be was my point, so it does matter, but not necessarily to your benefit. [B]

You really don’t have the omnipotence to make that call, in a natural surrounding things could actually be to Logan’s benefit, however, it’s all a matter of chance. Still MY POINT was that he shouldn’t be assumed to be instantly surrounded, because he won’t be, and it DOES affect the way this battle plays out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] I don’t think you comprehend what YOU say half the time honestly. [B]

And once again, more insults from someone who’s not going to “stoop” to my level… pffft.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] I’m truly blaming you “for my problems” my problem is you failing to connect what everyone clearly understands in the whole thread, that’s my problem… with you. Don’t flatter yourself into thinking I need you for a scapegoat. . [B]

What everyone clearly understands? Yeah, because “everyone” has clearly been stating their opinions concerning our most recent little *****-fest C.
And what? You mean the way you flattered yourself into thinking that those symbols were a result of me being “mad” with you?
HYPE-O-CRITE….

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] I love Sea World. 😆 [B]

And so does Toby.

And so do you.

http://www.keblawben.com/PhotoAlbums/disney/tn_disney_2000_132_Disney2000%20Sea%20World%2030%20May405_JPG.jpg [B][/QUOTE]

Link doesn’t work.. but I’ll assume it was insulting.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] Funny how only the top Wolverine defender, namely you are holding onto that sad grasp of evidence because it’s all you have, even though people have disagreed and questioned it openly. [B]

“evidence because it’s all you have”
BWAAHAHAHAHAHA….

Yes C I have EVIDENCE, as usual, as always, the astute difference between us in these debates.
The only person that questioned it here has been x, and everyone has a rite to question it, because it’s an ideal that admittedly deserves to be questioned..
Even saying it sounds funny..
“The hand… don’t job? Since when?”, but using EVIDENCE there’s some pretty staunch proof that the hand don’t fall into the same category as you put them into.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] BS, if there’s one thing I do, it’s go into detail. I clearly explained many reasons why it was a suboptimal piece of evidence to use and others understood and agreed, you do a poor job of explaining why it’s good, simply saying that “it happened” despite it showing no relation, and dismissing other fights as having nothing to do with bears, which the hand themselves don’t. [B]

“it’s crap because it’s crap”
“it doesn’t make any sense”

Yes EXTREEEEEMELY detailed analysis there. LMAO
“others agreed”? like whom for instance?
Again, “it happened” isn’t always an incorrect way to display proof, especially when it’s followed by “It happened and here are the reasons why”
And while the ninja have nothing to do with bears directly, they DO set up a standard of evidence…

How well does wolverine fair against mass numbers of opponents? Well the only way we can tell, is by observing his fights with overwhelming numbers of opponents. When those opponents are more dangerous in the examples than in the hypothetical debate… well…

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] Hypocritical much? 😬 . [B]
Why are you asking me? You’re the expert.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] Thanks again for proving my point fo rme. [B]
What did I prove here other than MY OWN DAMN POINT?
Again the hand ninja lose frequently to members of a select group, and that select group alone and there are REASONS for that so it isn’t jobbing. All other on comers don’t meet with much high success. Not jobbing.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] So they job to that group or you think that Wolverine is invurnerable. 😬 [B]

Never said that either... way to jump the gun though.
No again, they lose to the select group due to REASONS, they lose to others because they are out of their league, or ability to do damage to… I.E. Rogue, Ghost Rider.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You’re bad at logic because you don’t even know what logic itself is my friend. [B]

Nonsense. I understand logic better in some ways than you do. And don’t call me your friend. We’re obviously not friends here.
You see, logic runs on a set of rules and principles, but those principles are only as authentic as the place in which they are presented.. It’s not logical at all for superman to take off into the air and mobilize himself through thin air, or space even, and yet he did so for decades without so much as an explanation.. would we discredit that because it makes no sense to us? No, and it’s times like these that it’s perfectly acceptable to lay down an “it happens” argument.
Just because something doesn’t make sense to you according to real world rules and principles doesn’t lend itself to be discarded on your say so.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] I meant the elite as well, I just meant the foot, because the foot that trounced Leo had Elite in their ranks.

And we weren’t discussing the elite before.. Again, if I’m misinterpreting you, it’s YOUR FAULT for failing to specify.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How many times have the turtles owned the footsoldiers

See. Nothing there said ANYTHING about elites…

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sentinels are jobbers too? Thanks for pointing that out and taking credibility out of your argument even more.

So the sentinel is a jobber because he lost to a supposed group of jobbers? Then who ISN’T a jobber when they lose? That’s pretty much what this argument comes down do… Anyone who loses is jobbing.

The only credibility lost here is yours for thinking that the ninja are strictly jobbers just because they keep getting beat by the same group of people.. in spite of the fact that there’s reasons for it.

I don't know what we're arguing about

Wolverine wins. I've already stated why I think so.

Well it's obvious someone is taking these a bit seriously again with the amounts of swearing in the posts, going to ruin the fun for all of us... *sigh* I'm wondering if I should bother seeing as everyone understands what I'm saying save one...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You¡¦ve already implied several times that they were¡K

No I haven't.. I've instead given you hypotheticals in which I give your EXCUSE the benefit of the doubt, to prove that your excuse is pointless anyways. I haven't stated them to be jobbers.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Anyone who has two eyes can see that, and has already seen that¡K they don¡¦t need swimwear either.. 😆

And once again C's ego takes it upon itself to speak for the majority of people who don't actually give a crap. Whatever.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
When did I say that I didn't bring the Elk up? Go and point to me where I did. I said I brought it up in response to your hand nonsense, but you tried to be hypocritical and say that neither they nor the foot were the hand, and I showed you your bad logic by pointing out that NONE were Grizzlies in the first place.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How is it irrelevant if my point was on the damage that they inflict? I wasn't the one who brought up the seperate point to begin with, and I never am.

And they are not the hand, they are below the hand so bringing up a less formidable opponent to prove a point proves nothing.. You need an example that AT LEAST is equivalent and the foot just don¡¦t cut it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And that¡¦s all you have to say? It seems that the only person with a skewed perspective is you my friend. .

What else can I say? I'm talking to a brick wall.. even when FACTS are brought up. If you disagree with them you discard them .

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Good boy. I¡¦m glad you¡¦ve learned your lesson.

Learned my lesson?
WTF? See this is what I'm talking about as far as your huge ego goes, and making me laugh. Like you have anything to do with the fact I think Logan loses. In spite of me saying that before me and you got started. And again your misdirecting, like I'm going to forget about you bringing up the elk comparison in regards to a fight. It was a bad example to prove your attempted point, and you know it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And you deny a lot of things.

Things that aren't true?
Of course I do.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Going by your featwar style of arguing Caps feats beats quite a few characters, particularly a pop tart, why did you use such a bad example?

...😐..... I was mocking you. And I'm obtuse huh?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Here is your other sub optimal tactic of making things up, because that¡¦s not once what I said.

Which is funny coming from the person that said Wolverine could beat Metallo, Carnage, Godzilla, Namor, and insists on using examples of him stalemating the Xmen and walking through blasts as good ¡§evidence¡¨.


It didn't have to be what you said, to come across that way.. oh but that's right none of the impressive feat come across as real evidence because they're crazy jobbers... pffft.

And once again attacking previously made arguments neglecting circumstances as usual, because you've got nothing to actually argue about HERE.
And for the record I NEVER said wolverine could take Godzilla, but I guess it doesn't matter, since you started making shit up last night, there's no need to stop now right?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
At least you¡¦ve given up.

I can talk to brick walls for only so long before I grow tiresome of it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funny how that's not what I implied at all. .

Funny that EVIDENCE ONCE AGAIN PROVES THAT IT IS.
and....
You didn't imply it, you flat out stated it.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
2. The time wasn't specified in the trainig session how long he had been out.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
2. The time wasn't specified in the trainig session how long he had been out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But in the book he wasn¡¦t trying his hardest either, and hey it happened.
And I don't disagree that it's within his ability to do, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You don¡¦t even know the difference between PIS and CIS lol, sad for a member who¡¦s been here damn near 3 years.

Spiderman didn't do what he did through PIS, save hit the professor, everything else that happened afterwards was CIS... that was on account of PIS but it was CIS all the same..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh yea Mr. Wolverine resisted Telepathy from the Phoenix. 😆

What was skewed about that?
I posted to feat for all to see and interpret as they wish, I didn't present it in a skewed perspective.. you did.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And those people would have to be morons to do so, because the concept of logic is just a tool for reasoning and nothing else, you are mixing ¡§real world¡¨ logic for that.

And now you've just called all the comic fans here morons.. Is there no end to your insults? 😂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How can you debate with no logic? What you fail to understand or would rather not accept is that logic and debating go hand in hand, or else you shouldn¡¦t have even brought up the hand because there was no need for comparison in an illogical debate. I feel like I¡¦m practicing for my logic class tonight.. lol

Let me reiterate, comic fans love bad logic, because 90% of the things that happen in comics are ILLOGICAL to us real world residents.. Yet comics have they're own realm of logic.. For wolverine to be hit by the hulk, there should be nothing left but an admantium skeleton surrounded by chunks of exploded meat, yet in the comic realm it's perfectly logical for wolverine to stay in one piece and nobody around him questions it. You can't be a comics fan and use only real world logic in these debates.. it doesn't work that way, and feats DO have some amount of meaning and/or validity here.
You need a class to teach you logic? 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was talking about in general, and A is a big time jobber.

Well you shouldn't be talking "in general" because generalities have little relevance here. And your generality is incorrect in context to this debate¡K
Again A is a "big time jobber" -according to your opinion.. which proves nothing.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, there¡¦s that denial again.

Lol, whatever you say pot.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well it's obvious someone is taking these a bit seriously again with the amounts of swearing in the posts, going to ruin the fun for all of us... *sigh* I'm wondering if I should bother seeing as everyone understands what I'm saying save one...

I like casual swearing.. so what?

Originally posted by jinzin
I like casual swearing.. so what?
I just find it funny that things haven't changed... (in a laughing funny way), it's a shame however that you really take what I say seriously on this board after 2 years, although I'm never really serious... I thought you and I were cool on July 24th right when my best friend died... but meh. Just a board.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I just find it funny that things haven't changed... (in a laughing funny way), it's a shame however that you really take what I say seriously on this board after 2 years, although I'm never really serious... I thought you and I were cool on July 24th right when my best friend died... but meh. Just a board.

well we would be, but everytime you and I get into it, you start belittling my intelligence and boasting about how you're owning me.. 😬

friends don't do that.

"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

And not only this, but you bring up past debates in which i shared an opinion, full well knowing the circumstances under which they were stated. 😬

All in an effort to make you look good and me look bad. Like i said, pissing contest. And for the sake of what?

You can't just sit there and belittle a person, then claim that you're their friend.. it doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by jinzin
well we would be, but everytime you and I get into it, you start belittling my intelligence and boasting about how you're owning me.. 😬
Actually you belittle mine with a sarcastic remark and it starts from there, you started with the...

"As usual, good at misinterpreting things". And I fire back. One thing I don't understand is how sensitive people are on this board. Me and Srank know that when he and I go at it, it's fun. Same with people in the games forums and elsewhere, like Cresh. It's those select few like you and twister who fire first and then when I fire back they don't like it. I am always fair and warn you several times with what you're doing like in this thread. You said you weren't complaining, and I took it as you didn't care. You seem to have a hard time detecting sarcasm and you get very sarcastic even with other members.

I joke with GS about owning him, Kam, whomever I feel I can joke with, but I just can't joke with you. My thing is don't be sarcastic first. And I've warned you when you are doing it, even back in 05.

Originally posted by jinzin
friends don't do that.

Friends shouldn't insult other people especially when they are a tad sensitive.

Originally posted by jinzin
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

I'm a to-the-point person. But I have a sense of humor, that is hard to detect on here. It never ceases to amuse me how much more people take me seriously than myself. And when I do go on about "owning a person" they ALWAYS deserve it first... Yahman, Merc, whoever. And if I feel I'm wrong I always apologize, if I was really out to be this god that people want me to be I wouldn't do so...

Originally posted by jinzin
And not only this, but you bring up past debates in which i shared an opinion, full well knowing the circumstances under which they were stated. 😬
And you started that first with the Spiderman vs. Trio thread, and you did it in the SF vs MK with the Ryu and Akuma vs. Doomsday. I said nothing about Spiderman or anyone else here. Like I said, what people say to me don't get to me. But I like to mess with people, maybe it makes me an ass for being insensitive, but I feel that people shouldn't be hypocritical and dish out what they can't take.

Originally posted by jinzin
All in an effort to make you look good and me look bad. Like i said, pissing contest. And for the sake of what?
And I didn't start that in this thread, I never start with long posts. I post lazily until the person gets more insulting and THEN I do that... and when I do I just think it's good fun... but if it bothers you so then don't do it either, it takes two.

Originally posted by jinzin
You can't just sit there and belittle a person, then claim that you're their friend.. it doesn't work like that.

Yes, because I just belittle you for no reason 🙄. If I recall I have had no problem complimenting you or anyone else if I felt they deserved it, like in Supes vs DBZ. I have nothing to hide, and I simply don't care. I've even recommended you in several things and given you your props. But I guess I'll have to work overtime in sounding like I'm not serious. 😬 These are fun but it's time to grow up a bit, seeing as we are both respectable members. And to prove that I'm not going to argue back to the post on account that it's off topic. You're welcome to pm me or vise versa if you want to discuss anything civilly.

BTW that "insulting" picture was just a dolphin. 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Actually you belittle mine with a sarcastic remark and it starts from there, you started with the...
"As usual, good at misinterpreting things". And I fire back. One thing I don't understand is how sensitive people are on this board. Me and Srank know that when he and I go at it, it's fun. Same with people in the games forums and elsewhere, like Cresh. It's those select few like you and twister who fire first and then when I fire back they don't like it. I am always fair and warn you several times with what you're doing like in this thread. You said you weren't complaining, and I took it as you didn't care. You seem to have a hard time detecting sarcasm and you get very sarcastic even with other members.
I joke with GS about owning him, Kam, whomever I feel I can joke with, but I just can't joke with you. My thing is don't be sarcastic first. And I've warned you when you are doing it, even back in 05.

See, i don't see how being sarcastic jusitifes you to go about calling me obtuse, that's not a joke that's an insult..
My being sarcastic is just part of my persoanality and if you fire back with sarcasm that's fine.. but when you start insulting my ability of comprehension and my intelligence, that's when I find you to be at fault.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Friends shouldn't insult other people especially when they are a tad sensitive.
are you saying you're sensitive here?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm a to-the-point person. But I have a sense of humor, that is hard to detect on here. It never ceases to amuse me how much more people take me seriously than myself. And when I do go on about "owning a person" they ALWAYS deserve it first... Yahman, Merc, whoever. And if I feel I'm wrong I always apologize, if I was really out to be this god that people want me to be I wouldn't do so...

And yet you bring it up over and over again. As if there's some validity there.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And you started that first with the Spiderman vs. Trio thread, and you did it in the SF vs MK with the Ryu and Akuma vs. Doomsday. I said nothing about Spiderman or anyone else here. Like I said, what people say to me don't get to me. But I like to mess with people, maybe it makes me an ass for being insensitive, but I feel that people shouldn't be hypocritical and dish out what they can't take.

Are you reffering to the pop tart thing? cause that was clearly nothing more than a joke... I wasn't using past opinions of yours to belittle your opinion and attack your credibility in this thread but you DID do that to me, I thought we were past that.. but i guess not.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And I didn't start that in this thread, I never start with long posts. I post lazily until the person gets more insulting and THEN I do that... and when I do I just think it's good fun... but if it bothers you so then don't do it either, it takes two.

But you did though.. I didn't bring up carnage and metallo etc.. you did.. the trio comment was a joke. I thought that was clear.. apparently I thought wrong.
And you tend to post incredibly long replies to anything you and I discuss... like my last post for instance. 😬

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes, because I just belittle you for no reason 🙄. If I recall I have had no problem complimenting you or anyone else if I felt they deserved it, like in Supes vs DBZ. I have nothing to hide, and I simply don't care. I've even recommended you in several things and given you your props. But I guess I'll have to work overtime in sounding like I'm not serious. 😬 These are fun but it's time to grow up a bit, seeing as we are both respectable members. And to prove that I'm not going to argue back to the post on account that it's off topic. You're welcome to pm me or vise versa if you want to discuss anything civilly.
discuss what at this point?

if you want some sort of an apology, then i'm sorry I was sarcastic with you, i forgot how you don't like that. But again.. it seems to me like we're cool until we have a disagreement.. and given who we are.. we ALWAYS disagree.. after that it's as if the gloves are off. everytime.