He-man vs Hercules

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
What’s moronic is someone who fails to debate given points. I already pointed out the reasons He-man loses, yet you continue on rhetorics without any answers.

Suppose He-man is stronger in this confrontation. He would still lose, because the majority of this battles are won through his sheer strength advantage. This wouldn’t matter against Hercules. Comic characters like Hercules, Wolverine, etc... win out of desparation, adaptibility, fighting prowes and tenacity. They are not as one-dimensional as He-man. If strength alone were the only factor of a fight, then the Hulk would win every encounter, since his strength becomes limitless. But we know that isn’t the case. Wolverine has beaten guys 30 times stronger, so has Batman and many others.

Who said that He-Man defeats Hercules by strength alone?

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Yeah, but he’s the strongest in his universe. Which goes to support my theory. He-man has never defeated anyone stronger than him, nor anyone more skilled then him. Hence, Hercules would win every time.

He has never defeated anyone stronger and more skilled than he is, because there is no one stronger and more skilled than he is.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Irrelevant, since we aren’t talking THAT He-man. Current He-man has never met Superman. Why you continue to bring Superman into this conversation, as though to give credibility to He-man, is beyond me. It was a crossover filled with plot holes and plot devices.

There are not different versions of He-Man.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
No need. I’ve seen most of the new cartoons and He-man doesn’t even look as impressive as Iron Man. Let me see, in one episode, He-man runs away from a big serpent. In another, he gets blasted by a Wind Raider and goes down. I did like the new cartoons however, because his strength was more consistent. No tossing “styrofoam” mountains into deep space. Just straight out fighting. But he still loses to Hercules.

He loses to Hercules based on what?

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Herc wins them all, because He-man is the biggest boy scout in the Universe. He doesn’t knock people out and he doesn’t get angry. He’s far from tenacious and he’s very predictable.

In "Awaken the Serpent," He-Man kills the god, Serpos, because it is the only way to stop him.

He-Man has fought Pre-Crisis Superman.

He-Man wins.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Who said that He-Man defeats Hercules by strength alone?

The reasons have already been stated. Please read throught he thread.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
He has never defeated anyone stronger and more skilled than he is, because there is no one stronger and more skilled than he is.

Exactly. Coming from a universe where he’s the strongest, most skilled, He-man would get curb stomped by those much stronger, more skilled and more tenacious from other Universes.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There are not different versions of He-Man.

I beg to differ. The original He-man from the toyline was simply a barbarian. The 80’s cartoon featured a friendly cartoon He-man who could toss planets like styrofoam - a true kid’s fantasy figure. The same era produced He-man comics from three different companies, each with their own storylines. In 2002, a new He-man series was launched. While they’re all based on the character He-man, each has its own interpretations and incarnations.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
He loses to Hercules based on what?

Read the posts...

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In "Awaken the Serpent," He-Man kills the god, Serpos, because it is the only way to stop him.

Yes. Only Serpos is made of rock. I think this was intentional, as the writers want He-man to be pure of heart. The idea was to portray Serpos as a rock creature, devoid of feelings or emotions. Hence, He-man had no true feelings of regret. I doubt He-man would ever take a human, or humanoid life. Aside from that, He-man had help in this confrontation.

Regarding Serpos, it’s another rock creature... Nothing new for He-man. It’s called a “god,” but probably just because there were worshippers at one point - not a true god in the sense of a diety like the Olympian gods.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
He-Man has fought Pre-Crisis Superman.

He-Man wins.

Great logic 🙄 Did you come up with that all on your own?

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Great logic 🙄 Did you come up with that all on your own?

Yes.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
The reasons have already been stated. Please read throught he thread.

Read the posts...

Please read the He-Man Respect Thread.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Exactly. Coming from a universe where he’s the strongest, most skilled, He-man would get curb stomped by those much stronger, more skilled and more tenacious from other Universes.

No such characters exists; the Power of Grayskull = Deus Ex Machina.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
I beg to differ. The original He-man from the toyline was simply a barbarian. The 80’s cartoon featured a friendly cartoon He-man who could toss planets like styrofoam - a true kid’s fantasy figure. The same era produced He-man comics from three different companies, each with their own storylines. In 2002, a new He-man series was launched. While they’re all based on the character He-man, each has its own interpretations and incarnations.

You may beg to differ all you like, it does not change the fact that there is a single Masters of the Universe continuity. The new Masters of the Universe series takes place two years before the classic Masters of the Universe series begins; they are not separate continuities.

Originally posted by GoBotsLive
Yes. Only Serpos is made of rock. I think this was intentional, as the writers want He-man to be pure of heart. The idea was to portray Serpos as a rock creature, devoid of feelings or emotions. Hence, He-man had no true feelings of regret. I doubt He-man would ever take a human, or humanoid life. Aside from that, He-man had help in this confrontation.

Regarding Serpos, it’s another rock creature... Nothing new for He-man. It’s called a “god,” but probably just because there were worshippers at one point - not a true god in the sense of a diety like the Olympian gods.

Wrong. The combined powers of the Elders were insufficient to destroy Serpos, so they transmuted him into stone in order to stop him from destroying Eternia. Centuries later, the Snakemen reverted Serpos to his original state using the Medallion of Serpos. It is at this point that He-Man resorts to killing Serpos, after having exhausted every other means to stop him.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I would say calling him a Conan rip is stretching the character a bit. Conan has peak human strength or slightly higher. He-Man is in Hercs league.

He-man is beyond herc in str, he-man did a good job on superman in their on and only fight.

He-man = pre crisis supes in strength.

Why is He-Man beyond Hercules in strength?