The Devil makes no sense!

Originally posted by BlackC@
But angels cannot be tempted and are pure goddess! They don't have the ability to be bad!! It doesn't make sense!

Who told you that? It isn't in the bible...and Satan, the accuser is actually a member of God's divine Court. See, the book of Job.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Who told you that? It isn't in the bible...and Satan, the accuser is actually a member of God's divine Court. See, the book of Job.

Why would a God have a court? 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why would a God have a court? 🙄

I don't know...why would a tree have the ability to reach a spiritual plane of existence known as enlightenment? 🙄

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I don't know...why would a tree have the ability to reach a spiritual plane of existence known as enlightenment? 🙄

A tree can't "reach" enlightenment.

Also, they are not equivalent. A court is part of an out dated and inefficient political system.

Oh yeah, the tree doesnt reach it...it has it.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Oh yeah, the tree doesnt reach it...it has it.

There is hope for you after all.

Why didn't you just tell me that the people who wrote the bible didn't know any better? The only political system them knew what a kingdom. So, they described god's power as a kingdom; it was the best they could do.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is hope for you after all.

Why didn't you just tell me that the people who wrote the bible didn't know any better? The only political system them knew what a kingdom. So, they described god's power as a kingdom; it was the best they could do.

Well I could just insult your beliefs, but then that was really not a very fair thing to do, for which I'm sorry 🙂

Besides, as far as it goes, it was a court. God seems to have some form of Divine Government...the Dept of Miraculous Affairs and such...however, Jesus did talk of a Kingdom but it was more personal. The Parable of the Mustard Seed, so it seems from the OT to the birth of Christ Heaven went under a little revolution/reform.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well I could just insult your beliefs, but then that was really not a very fair thing to do, for which I'm sorry 🙂

Besides, as far as it goes, it was a court. God seems to have some form of Divine Government...the Dept of Miraculous Affairs and such...however, Jesus did talk of a Kingdom but it was more personal. The Parable of the Mustard Seed, so it seems from the OT to the birth of Christ Heaven went under a little revolution/reform.

Do you really believe in the what the bible says literally? Don't you think no one can understand god, and therefore, the bible is only figurative?

I don't believe in much of the content of the bible, but assuming Jesus was the son of God, then he would be able to understand God completly and utterly.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I don't believe in much of the content of the bible, but assuming Jesus was the son of God, then he would be able to understand God completly and utterly.

If god cannot be understood my humans, then even if Jesus understood god, he would never be able to make us understand.

Perhaps I will start a thread on interpreting scripture, ofcourse you are correct, vast amounts of the OT are symbolic in nature- genesis for example- however, other things come into play aswell.

Can man understand God? The biblical answer to that is "Imago Dei".

Originally posted by BlackC@
The Devil is a fallen angel that challenged God.

But angels cannot be tempted and are pure goddess! They don't have the ability to be bad!! It doesn't make sense!

I don't see how one who is so good can become so bad. It doesn't make sense. The Devil is defined as pure evil. Surely there is good in him.

No, angels are not pure goddess (or goddesses). Yes, angels are capable of sinning. It makes perfect sense relative to the Bible.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

Scholars believe that these were the angels that had sexual intercourse with women (as recorded in the Book of Genesis chapter 6, verses 1-5). They believe that this was their sin which led to them be cast down to Hell (i.e. Tartarus).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, angels are not pure goddess (or goddesses). Yes, angels are capable of sinning. It makes perfect sense relative to the Bible.

[B]2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

Scholars believe that these were the angels that had sexual intercourse with women (as recorded in the Book of Genesis chapter 6, verses 1-5). They believe that this was their sin which led to them be cast down to Hell (i.e. Tartarus). [/B]

Originally posted by lord xyz
Wait, having sex with women puts you in hell, having sex with men puts you in hell, what the hell are men supposed to shag, animals?

Angels were not created to copulate with human beings. But angels have the ability to assume (i.e. take on) human form. These angels violated God's will and plan for humanity. They are in Tartarus at the moment awaiting judgment. Having sex with women does not put a person in Hell (I am about to get technical now). The only sin (at this point in time) that will send someone to Hell is rejecting Jesus Christ as one's personal Lord and Savior. But having sex with someone that you are not married to is a serious sin. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a person sows, that he/she will also reap.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Angels were not created to copulate with human beings. But angels have the ability to assume (i.e. take on) human form. These angels violated God's will and plan for humanity. They are in Tartarus at the moment awaiting judgment. Having sex with women does not put a person in Hell (I am about to get technical now). The only sin (at this point in time) that will send someone to Hell is rejecting Jesus Christ as one's personal Lord and Savior. But having sex with someone that you are not married to is a serious sin. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a person sows, that he/she will also reap.

If the devil is real then why hasn't his picture been taken.

Originally posted by lord xyz
What kind of "perfect" God has a plan that one of his [b]own creations could violate? I'll tell you what kind, no kind. You're God can simply not exist, if both of these were true. [/B]

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
They are in Tartarus at the moment awaiting judgment.

Tarturus is Pagan. It is part of Ancient Greek Mythology, along with Hades and Zeus. Your religion copied it. Be more original please.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Having sex with women does not put a person in Hell (I am about to get technical now). The only sin (at this point in time) that will send someone to Hell is rejecting Jesus Christ as one's personal Lord and Savior.

THEN ITS OKAY TO BE GAY ! AS LONG AS I BELEIVE IN CHRIST ! THAT'S EASY! 😄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But having sex with someone that you are not married to is a serious sin. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a person sows, that he/she will also reap.

Yeah, yeah, whatever....

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]Tarturus is Pagan. It is part of Ancient Greek Mythology, along with Hades and Zeus. Your religion copied it. Be more original please.[/B]

Originally posted by Nellinator
Hebrew idiom, the Biblical use is different from the Greek mythology surrounding it. Same with Hades considering it is the translation of Sheol.

But you know that Hades and Tarturus are Pagan beleifs...why do you guys still utilize it ? Why not just say "Hell" or Sheol ?

That's like using "Elysian Fields" instead of Heaven.....