Originally posted by superkronick92
superman could just sundip and wait, if flash even comes near him, he'll burn up, because Superman's entire body is drenched with solar fire, look what happened to coldcast in the last issue of JLE
Heat does nothing to Flash if he uses the Speed force to cover himself with.
Why do you think he doesnt incinerate when he moves?
Why do you think he can travel in space with no air?
Or why do you think he has a super regeneration factor?
Why can he take punches from superman and higher level beings?
Its been explained in the comics that Flash imbunes himself with the Speed force to the most sub atomic level, and it protects him, nurishes him, etc.
Flash FP could just stop all kinetic energy, thats the end of Superman, the sun, and anything else he chooses.
Do you know that reality itself, time, etc. is kinetic energy? He basically and for all purposes could drop the DC omniverse on anyone's dome piece.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
KE is only the energy of motion at a quantum level there is no KE so reality cannot be composed of it.
Actually, yes time and reality are kinetic energy, Quantum theory is begining to show it is, such as anti matter representing time, and reality be it, and it is kinetic.
That the Universe itself, the idea of time, is all a continous motion, thus kinetic, as anti matter itself is actually that, moving matter.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Actually, yes time and reality are kinetic energy, Quantum theory is begining to show it is, such as anti matter representing time, and reality be it, and it is kinetic.That the Universe itself, the idea of time, is all a continous motion, thus kinetic, as anti matter itself is actually that, moving matter.
Time isn't really that type of motion.
Why would antimatter represent time?
Originally posted by Board Walker
Actually, yes time and reality are kinetic energy, Quantum theory is begining to show it is, such as anti matter representing time, and reality be it, and it is kinetic.That the Universe itself, the idea of time, is all a continous motion, thus kinetic, as anti matter itself is actually that, moving matter.
He still loses to Zoom, POWER, Deadman, any GL worth thier salt, and Wave Rider for sure. Doomsday, WW, Superman, and MM also would give him hell if he didn't get to them first. IF he did get to them first, MM would be able to last long enough to get a telepathic call out to a good mage. That's the end of flashiac.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He still loses to Zoom, POWER, Deadman, any GL worth thier salt, and Wave Rider for sure. Doomsday, WW, Superman, and MM also would give him hell if he didn't get to them first. IF he did get to them first, MM would be able to last long enough to get a telepathic call out to a good mage. That's the end of flashiac.
Nvr Telepathy is going to do nothing to a FP Flash, they will have no Telepathy, they will have no energy, no action, no consequence, they will be less then absolute zero, they will be literarily non existent.
This is Flash FP, meaning he is the speed force, he is a sentient speed force.
FP Flash >>>>> Kingdom Come Flash >>>>>>>>> Zoom+DC earth+etc.
Sorry folks but I don't think you can work with science here, which is mostly based on theories when it comes down to time, space and lightspeed, they surely don't use t in the comics, else the Flash wouldn't go down so often. If Flash would have that kind of power you think he has or should have, well, they wouldn't need a JLA, Flash alone would be enough to stop Imperiex and co. The Comic Flash we all know is not a science heroe, and even an BrainiacFlash wouldn't be, they play by the comic rules and this means Flash would loose against foes who are almost as fast as he is, but more durable and stronger and against another bunch of other powerhouses. He has a chance to win but as said some would have 5/10, some more, some less.... 😉
Originally posted by Board Walker
I still say this theoretical full potential flash could take it 10/10, at this theoretical full potential he would be the speed force entirely, a sentient speed force.He would be beyond KC flash by miles.
Any I say a theoretical full potential Captain Marvel, full potential Superman etc. could take it 10/10.
BTW KC Flash was the embodiment of the Speed Force, and SBP escaped from the Speed Force.... the Speed Force isn't as powerful in the comics as it would be in "reality" 😉.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Most of this is true. A large part of what BW is saying is congecture but still even without that kind of power he can take out most of DCEarth.
Of course it is in large part speculation because FP flash has never been shown before.
Although Kingdom Come flash is the closest thing we have seen thus far, and he for all purposes was all of reality.
Think Akin to Ion
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Any I say a theoretical full potential Captain Marvel, full potential Superman etc. could take it 10/10.BTW KC Flash was the embodiment of the Speed Force, and SBP escaped from the Speed Force.... the Speed Force isn't as powerful in the comics as it would be in "reality" 😉.
Well technically they didn't take SBP to the Speed force, Flash's wife asked Flash where he was going, she asked if to the place where he gets his powers. Flash responded "No, some where else", so it was not the speed force, but rather they used the speed force to get to where ever this place was.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Well technically they didn't take SBP to the Speed force, Flash's wife asked Flash where he was going, she asked if to the place where he gets his powers. Flash responded "No, some where else", so it was not the speed force, but rather they used the speed force to get to where ever this place was.
Maybe but the SpeedForce was gone and those Flashes with the SpeedForce on their side couldn't kill him or keep him wherever they took him 😉. See, the SpeedForce is powerful but not that powerful.
Full potential and Superheroes are an interesting thing but it works only in "reality". 🙂