Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah, you claimed it was shielded, which I proved to be an unfounded assumption and therefore cannot be used.
I never said it WAS shielded. I said it was very very LIKELY to be.
And, repeating again for the dolts, as it's much more likely TO be shielded than NOT to be, why are we trying to use a line of reason that is extremely unlikely to work?
Because we have nothing else? 😬.
Originally posted by Alfheimand that's something you said before...
Thats doesnt change the fcat thats its a possible scenerio. If I had said that the scenrio would have worked without a doubt I would have desrved that comment....gezzzz
Originally posted by AlfheimBecause he's going to be able to stock it with what he needs while the terminator is doing what? Picking its nose?
What so hes going to leave the factor empty and pick his nose?
He said find an empty factory and wait... so yeah, what he does while he waits could be picking his nose.
Originally posted by masterbruceA Death star could destroy the planet...
EMP grenades would fuq up the bonds between the nanites as they are reliant upon very accurate electron bonding to work.basically T1000 would turn to mush after being hit by an EMP.
Oh wait that has nothing to do with this because they don't leave deathstars lying around.
Prove that the EMP would work, and while you're at it prove that he'd be able to find an EMP grenade.
Or are we giving him the benefit of the doubt like someone claimed not to be doing earlier?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hypocritical much?
No I start being rude when you start being rude to me. Tell me where I said to you in thsi thread that you were pulling something out of your ***. C'mon show me.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You do know about falloff right? Oh wait as was shown in the previous thread.. you don't...
Ok you explain it to me.
Originally posted by Soljer
It's a molecule, you dolt! How is it supposed to protect itself from an explosive shock?
Well actually it did.
Originally posted by Soljer
Or incredibly high temperatures?That's an environmental thing!
Yeah so apparently T-1000 can change theor body heat, why cant intelligent molecxules react to protect itself from extreme heat?
The fact that acids function, very often, on the molecular level, with exchanges of hydrogen, hydronium, or hydroxide, MEANS that a similarly sized, but intelligent, being would be able to 'fight back' so to speak. [/B][/QUOTE]
Or maybe not especillay if its over a long period of time
Originally posted by Soljer
No. It couldn't work. But the chances of it are just as likely as Frank knocking the terminator out with the straws you're grasping at.
Whatever.
Originally posted by Soljer
That you're either too dumb or too lazy to think of something, so you'll continue with the line of reason that "Frank'll find a way. He has the power of my love!"
No that was not my explanation. Again what was my explanation?
Originally posted by AlfheimAgain, you show you know nothing about physics.
.....and what? So it dindt portect itself from the explosive round or molten metal did it.
Originally posted by AlfheimYou haven't proven that its a possability other than stating "It could work" ad nauseum.
Of course I dont know the exact details. Were talking about a fctional machine arent we but that still doesnt change the fcat that it could work.
Originally posted by Alfheimand you still haven't answered some of the lingering questions.
If I had said from the beginning that it will work without a doubt I desrved to be called a fanboy.What dont you get it. What exactly did I say I provided an explanation. What was it?
What acid is he going to use to dissolve/corrode/superoxidate the material of the nanites? Where is he going to find enough of it in the quantity he needs?
HOW is he going to acocmplish the things you say are WHAT he is going to do?
Originally posted by Creshosk
and that's something you said before...
Your point?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because he's going to be able to stock it with what he needs while the terminator is doing what? Picking its nose?He said find an empty factory and wait... so yeah, what he does while he waits could be picking his nose.
Yeah your right beacuse I would think that the T-1000 would do absolutely nothing as well. How did you guess?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Again, you show you know nothing about physics.
thats got nothing to do with it. If it intellignet why cant it potect itself from an explosion...oh yeah actually it did. Its intellignet the molecules can react to the heat if its intelligent.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You haven't proven that its a possability other than stating "It could work" ad nauseum.
Here we go. Yeah but it could depening on what its made of...and I dont know that do I.
Originally posted by Creshosk
and you still haven't answered some of the lingering questions.What acid is he going to use to dissolve/corrode/superoxidate the material of the nanites? Where is he going to find enough of it in the quantity he needs?
HOW is he going to acocmplish the things you say are WHAT he is going to do?
You know what ive atually porvided explanations to some of those questions. You go and find them.
The only problem is we dont know exactly what its made of part from that it could work.
Originally posted by masterbruceWe haven't even established how he's going to get ONE EMP grenade, where do you get off saying he's going to stock a wherehouse with them?
how would T1000 even track Frank? it couldn't, thus giving Frank enough time to stock up on EMP grenades and then luring it to an empty warehouseI give Punisher 4/10
Originally posted by AlfheimAs soon as you make ONE sarcastic/rude comment you lose the right to tell others not to.. that's the hypocricy.
No I start being rude when you start being rude to me. Tell me where I said to you in thsi thread that you were pulling something out of your ***. C'mon show me.
Originally posted by AlfheimIt was already explained in the previous thread.
Ok you explain it to me.
Originally posted by Alfheim🙄 Its ture that it was able to hang on to itself so it remained in one piece from the explosion... but it can't sheild itself from a concussive force like that. But the explosion still didn't defeat it.
Well actually it did.
Originally posted by AlfheimOkay.. now you're just being an idiot. Do you even know what exactly heat is? even after I explained it to you?
Yeah so apparently T-1000 can change theor body heat, why cant intelligent molecxules react to protect itself from extreme heat?
Originally posted by AlfheimSo if I were to tell you that Dihydrogenmonoxide is the most corrosive substance on earth and is used in nuklear reactions and is responsible for thousands of deathss world wide every year.. would you sign my petition to ban it from being pumped into peoples homes like the governments of the world want to do?
The fact that acids function, very often, on the molecular level, with exchanges of hydrogen, hydronium, or hydroxide, MEANS that a similarly sized, but intelligent, being would be able to 'fight back' so to speak.
🙄 At least try to know what you're saying...
Finally; Alfheim has argued all of this is simply a possible scenario.
I will admit that it is a possible scenario. But NOT in the neighborhood of significant figures.
The Punisher won't know what the Terminator is made out of. He'll have to guess, and will likely guess wrong, being totally ignorant of skynet and it's uses.
Therefore, he'll also have to guess what acid to set up.
He'll have to first find the terminator - something that will be impossible if the terminator doesn't want to be found. He'll look human, he'll sound human, he'll have fingerprints, a heat signature, just like a human.
Hell, screw it, he could look like a wall for all it matters. He can travel along a wall, totally unnoticeable by sight, infrared, or uv light. Effectively invisible.
So, because Alfheim has a crush on Frank, Frank finds the Terminator holding a big sign saying "Look! It's ME! come and get me!"
Also because Frank has Alfheim's heart, the Terminator will not use it's incredible aim to simply shoot Frank in the head, rather, the Terminator will be totally weaponless.
Further, Frank will somehow lure the terminator to the acid he previously guessed at and set up, without getting stabbed in the head by an opponent that is far faster, far stronger, far more dangerous, oh, and cannot be hurt by any means that Frank'll have at his disposal.
So, Frank finally lures the terminator to the acid, and tries to catch the terminator in a net. Which he slips out of. So the Punisher tries to catch him in a box, which he oozes out of. So the Punisher tries to catch him in a cage, which he walks through, So the Punisher finally goes; "Look, bro, c'mon. Gimme a break."
The Terminator, seeing the tears in Alfheim's eyes, finally submits and decides to sit in the acid bath.
And he sits.
And he sits.
A couple years go by.
Nothing happens. Turns out frank guessed wrong. Big surprise considering the number of possible acids.
So, frank sets up ten more. The Terminator sits in each one. Nothing happens.
Ten more.
Finally, frank gets INCREDIBLY lucky and find the right acid...the terminator chills.
And chills.
And chills.
And after a week or so, he's finally gotten rid of.
Do either of you yet have any idea why this is such a poor line of argumentation?
The likelihood that Frank will be able to guess the right acid? Well, considering the sheer number? Very low.
The likelihood that Frank will be able to even FIND the Terminator? Someone who is, effectively, invisible if he wants to be? RIDICULOUSLY low.
The likelihood that the Terminator won't shoot or stab Frank - even though he has inhuman aim, incredible strength, incredible speed, and cannot really even be slowed down by less than an RPG? Also insanely low.
The likelihood that Frank will catch the Terminator in any way while STILL not getting stabbed or shot? Very, very, very, very low.
The likelihood that Frank will be able to put the Terminator in the acid bath, without the terminator escaping, and the likelihood that the acid will even affect the terminator in the way you're hoping?
....****ing 'A.'
This isn't even science anymore, it's math.
Fine, Alfheim. You're right. You've been right this entire time. It's possible. It nets the Punisher one win out of about seventeen vigintillion or so. However, since we typically use a ten out of ten rating system, and even if I sat here, trying to express the likelihood of the Punisher's win with a decimal point, I wouldn't have enough time from now till the world is enveloped by the sun to type enough zeros....
You might as well be arguing spontaneous failure of existence. They're equally likely. Hell, SFoE may be MORE likely than your ridiculous acid scenario.
Originally posted by AlfheimThat you deserve the comment maybe?
Your point?
What are you a goldfish?
Originally posted by AlfheimBecause you're being a fanboy... or a goldfish...
Yeah your right beacuse I would think that the T-1000 would do absolutely nothing as well. How did you guess?
Originally posted by Alfheim[ Actually it has everything to do with it. Because if you understood physics you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like :
thats got nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Alfheim🙄
If it intellignet why cant it potect itself from an explosion...oh yeah actually it did. Its intellignet the molecules can react to the heat if its intelligent.
Originally posted by AlfheimSo since we DON'T know what it is made out of we have to assume that it WOULD work?
Here we go. Yeah but it could depening on what its made of...and I dont know that do I.
Prove it. Prove it would work, Burden of proof is on your shoulders making a claim to the positive.
Originally posted by AlfheimNo, actually oyu haven't.. that's why I'm asking. I'm not a goldfish. I remember you still haven't said what type, or where he's going to find it... You've just said that he is. And why is he going to find something that might not even exist? In quantities that would be unsafe to store?
You know what ive atually porvided explanations to some of those questions. You go and find them.
Originally posted by AlfheimShowing you don't know a damned thing about acids other than they (plural mind you) dissolve stuff.
The only problem is we dont know exactly what its made of part from that it could work.
What's he going to use? Dihydrogenmonoxide?
Originally posted by Soljer
Can Deadpool, Venom, or the Reavers pass through anything that is not air tight? No?Get that shit out of here. Read my above post, and get it through your thick skull.
Further, I thought you WEREN'T arguing 'He's frank, he'll find a way.'
That's damned near word for word what you just said.
Actually I think Venom can do similar shit like that......
Originally posted by Soljer
That's frighnteningly near what you just said.
No it isnt.
Originally posted by AlfheimProve that it is.
We dont know exactly what its made of but if it was made of a metal that was vulnerbale to acid it could work.
We don't go around assuming the positive on things without proof... Want me to cite you the forum rule?
Or is breaking the rules the only way for Frank to win?
Originally posted by AlfheimWhy? because he's Punisher?
As I said before if he can capture Deadpool, Venom and defeat The Reavers he could find a way to beat the T-1000.
Is breaking forum rules the only way he has to win?
Originally posted by AlfheimCare to prove it?
Actually I think Venom can do similar shit like that......
Originally posted by AlfheimActually yeah it is.. slightly exagerated with a bit of emotion thrown in but seriously?
No it isnt.
"As I said before if he can capture Deadpool, Venom and defeat The Reavers he could find a way to beat the T-1000. "
Its not up to HIM to find the way.. that's your job.
Originally posted by Soljer
🤨.Read my above post and get this acid shit out of here.
What about it. Why would Frank capture him in a cage or net when it can oooze through it.....
Originally posted by Creshosk
Prove that it is.We don't go around assuming the positive on things without proof... Want me to cite you the forum rule?
Or is breaking the rules the only way for Frank to win?
Why? because he's Punisher?
Is breaking forum rules the only way he has to win?
I dindt break any rules what the **** are you talking about i created a possible scenerio.
Originally posted by Alfheim
What about it. Why would Frank capture him in a cage or net when it can oooze through it.....
Because Frank doesn't know it can ooze through it.
And if that's the only problem you can point out in a post that was mostly in jest, then that seriously says something about Frank's chances.
In short; that he has none.
Originally posted by Soljer
Because Frank doesn't know it can ooze through it.
Inst that basic knowledge.
Originally posted by Soljer
And if that's the only problem you can point out in a post that was mostly in jest, then that seriously says something about Frank's chances.In short; that he has none.
Well anyway we dont know enough about the T-1000 to decide what we can do with it or not. If we did it would be another matter.