Re: You cannot Prove God's existence.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Or prove that the bible is all fake. It is actually based on [B]faith. I am catholic and I believe that faith is what you have even if your a non believer, or Christian, catholic, Muslim, etc. You cant prove god is real or not. Thats impossible really, as well as proving the existence of god wrong. All I have is faith, and I will always believe in god and my religion, holy spirit, Holy Catholic church, and life everlasting.So, I think it is pretty pointless to try to prove that God and the bible is true or false. If you don't believe in god, that is fine with me. You just don't have faith with it. You don't believe in a god. Does not mean you should try to ruin it all with so many things. We have our defence of our religion as well, but in my opinion, its all faith. So lets end the whole debate and move on. 😄
Thoughts? [/B]
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok, lets put it this way then the defintion of god I have seen from the major religons is that God has no end. So God is infinite in that sense.
Thank makes God endless more than infinite.
A god doesn't need to exist forever IMO. Anything with omnipotence can be considered a god.
Any creator is also a god of sorts.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if he wasn't infinte he would not be God. I thought one of the defintions of God was that he was all powerful you cannot be all-powerful if you are finite can you?
If that was the case he would be everything. I suppose. Though, well, that is just one definition, and not a common one.
Originally posted by Bardock42
If that was the case he would be everything. I suppose. Though, well, that is just one definition, and not a common one.
Im sure those aspects are in the Bible, Quran and Hinduism. Hell theres even a guy in the Bible who has no beginning and no end.....the sensible Christians know that this because this guy has achieved union with God and hence has become like God.
If you could prove that the universe is infinte you could prove that possibly that is existence of God.
Furthermore when you think about it, infinity does not have to be only in terms of time and space but of possibilites. If you have infinite possibilities anything is possible even things that dont make sense.
Originally posted by lord xyz
What has dying got to do with it?The fact that God is made up is evidence enough, he doesn't exist. Unicorns are made up, are you going to say they may exist? Well, yes, it's possible, but the thread starter is saying he has faith it existing. That really annoys me, becaue he says he has faith, and since we can't disprove his faith, he can't be wrong. But, nor can he be right, and since he's not right, he is in no position to say God exists. He's not right. We can say God doesn't exist with the evidence that his existence can't be proven. Remember innocent until proven guilty? It's the same in Science. God is false, until proven true.
Your logic here (And please don't try to deny what you're appealing to) is that because we cannot see it, it doesn't exist.
Don't try to render it irrelevant with semantics, because it will not work. Your inconclusive and the crap you spew is nonsense. Your logic could work both ways.
Look at your argument; It's bloody ridiculous!
The fact that God is made up is evidence enough, he doesn't exist.
If you're going to make a claim, back it up. He doesn't exist? Prove it!
It's that simple. It's not irrelevant to ask for evidence to your claim (Which is a statement someone else mentioned) so prove it!
It's simple: "Absence of proof isn't proof of absence". Bottom line.
That's subjective, by the way. Your kind of logic cannot apply to such an elaborately subjective issue, If you understand what I mean.
Re: You cannot Prove God's existence.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Or prove that the bible is all fake. It is actually based on [B]faith. I am catholic and I believe that faith is what you have even if your a non believer, or Christian, catholic, Muslim, etc. You cant prove god is real or not. Thats impossible really, as well as proving the existence of god wrong. All I have is faith, and I will always believe in god and my religion, holy spirit, Holy Catholic church, and life everlasting.So, I think it is pretty pointless to try to prove that God and the bible is true or false. If you don't believe in god, that is fine with me. You just don't have faith with it. You don't believe in a god. Does not mean you should try to ruin it all with so many things. We have our defence of our religion as well, but in my opinion, its all faith. So lets end the whole debate and move on. 😄
Thoughts? [/B]
Faith alone cannot prove the existence of the Christian god (or any god for that matter). Hell, all it does is put that god on the same level of existence as that of Santa Claus and the Bogeyman.
Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Your logic here (And please don't try to deny what you're appealing to) is that because we cannot see it, it doesn't exist.Don't try to render it irrelevant with semantics, because it will not work. Your inconclusive and the crap you spew is nonsense. Your logic could work both ways.
Look at your argument; It's bloody ridiculous!
If you're going to make a claim, back it up. He doesn't exist? Prove it!
It's that simple. It's not irrelevant to ask for evidence to your claim (Which is a statement someone else mentioned) so prove it!
It's simple: "Absence of proof isn't proof of absence". Bottom line.
That's subjective, by the way. Your kind of logic cannot apply to such an elaborately subjective issue, If you understand what I mean.
1st: How doe you prove somethign does not exist. Please explain.
2nd: Explain how your assumption of god based on no evidence is justifiable.
Originally posted by Alliance
Yes, and since that is the case, god does not exist.
Thats kinda sh!t logic.
One can use it like this as well:
One can't prove that you are or are not a machine. Therefore you are a machine.
Or more to the point
One cannot prove the existance or nonexistance of god. Therefore it exists.