Mindless Hulk and Immortal Hercules vs. Classic Juggernaut and Thor

Started by Hercules5 pages
Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have a good point. The Hulk fanboys say he was holding back in that fight. Even after getting thrown around repeatedly and at one point was held under the water against his own will by a "construction worker". It don't make sense that Hulk would hold back.

Exactley, this was Prof Hulk, hes a Genius, so how much of a clue does he need that the man hes fighting isn't a normal Human?

Either of team 2 could solo this.

Juggernaut because NO amount of physical force dealt out by team 1 will put him down.

Thor, so long as he makes creative use of his hammer.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Exactly, Hulk didn't stop Juggernaut under his own power, He never could stop Cain with his own strength. Thats what the upgrade from APOC was for.

Uhm no. The upgrade was needed because post-onslaught Hulk (or any of Peter David's interpretations of the Hulk character, for that matter) wasn't quite as strong and susceptible to rage as he used to be in the older days. Besides, Apoc used the tech to measure its potential. No other reason.

Look guys, I hate fanboys too, but get your facts straight.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Just in general it doesn't make sense that a guuy fueled by rage would do much holding back at all.

Except that Prof. Hulk is not exactly fueled by rage.

Team two 10/10

Juggernaut > Hulk

Thor >>>>> Hercules

Originally posted by Hercules
Well guys, Hulk fanboys count the war thing as a win, yeah Juggy was still concious and not KO'd but they count this as a win.

The first time he didn't beat Juggy Physicaly either, he punched Juggy when Juggy was on his side (as Snoops said Blindsided him) this I recall knocked off his helmet at the exact moment a pyschic backlash occured when Hulk broke mind control.

What a coinky dink huh?

Oh and of course Juggy beating Hulk without his armour wasn't fair because Hulk was holding back because he thought he was fighting a construction worker.

Cause every construction worker I know can take a 7ft tall 1000lb man and toss him round like a rag doll... 🙄

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Actually Juggernaut proved to be stronger than Hulk in Hulk #402 also. He held him under the water against his will. If Hulk was stronger he would have gotten out of Juggies grip.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually Juggernaut proved to be stronger than Hulk in Hulk #402 also. He held him under the water against his will. If Hulk was stronger he would have gotten out of Juggies grip.

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Hulk fans have also claimed that Prof. Hulk has unlimited strength(check in the Hulk vs Juggernaut thread) so this argument can't be used to discredit the feat.

Although I'm pretty sure Juggs is at least marginally stronger than Prof. Hulk, that logic is terribly flawed.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Although I'm pretty sure Juggs is at least marginally stronger than Prof. Hulk, that logic is terribly flawed.

Sure, whatever. Juggernaut is not only more durable, but stronger than Hulk. Before Hulk tapped into the Celestial equipment it was made clear that Cain was the stronger of the two. When Juggernaut ambushed Hulk it was made clear that Cain was the stronger of the two, seeing as how Cain forced the Hulk's head underwater.

Juggernaut > Hulk

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Sure, whatever. Juggernaut is not only more durable, but stronger than Hulk. Before Hulk tapped into the Celestial equipment it was made clear that Cain was the stronger of the two. When Juggernaut ambushed Hulk it was made clear that Cain was the stronger of the two, seeing as how Cain forced the Hulk's head underwater.

Juggernaut > Hulk

My post was aimed at Snoop Dog.

But in any case, if you're going to repeat your arguments from the HvJ thread, please don't. Because they suck.

Cain has been shown to overpower Hulk twice. Those are facts that cannot be thrown out.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
My post was aimed at Snoop Dog.

But in any case, if you're going to repeat your arguments from the HvJ thread, please don't. Because they suck.

Obviously they do, I guess thats the reason everyone in this thread seemingly agrees with me.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Obviously they do, I guess thats the reason everyone in this thread seemingly agrees with me.

The majority of people also agreed with George B. at one point. And the majority of people is also mindnumbingly retarded. Think carefully before you pull out the majority > minority card.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The majority of people also agreed with George B. at one point. And the majority of people is also mindnumbingly retarded. Think carefully before you pull out the majority > minority card.

It also happens to be a bad argument to say "people disagree with me so I must be right"

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The majority of people also agreed with George B. at one point. And the majority of people is also mindnumbingly retarded. Think carefully before you pull out the majority > minority card.

Completely useless babble, intended only to refute the truth.

Juggernaut > Hulk

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It also happens to be a bad argument to say "people disagree with me so I must be right"

Absolutely. No arguments there. But that's besides the point.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Completely useless babble, intended only to refute the truth.

Juggernaut > Hulk

Ah yes, the unavoidable truth about a bunch of fictional characters 🙄

Dude, even Marvel has a hard time establishing the "truth" about their characters.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Ah yes, the unavoidable truth of a bunch of fictional characters 🙄

Dude, even Marvel has a hard time establishing the "truth" about their characters.

I dunno its pretty well estabilshed that the Odin is above say Spiderman.

Can you provide an argument to show how Hulk is more powerful than Juggy?