Originally posted by capt it up
Logan tripped over a hand ninja. Is that really your arguement?
Capt, you don't need to tell me what happened. I have the issue. Hell, I posted the friggin scans just a few posts above yours.
Also notice where I said that I was KIDDING. I mentioned earlier in this thread that it'd be a close fight.
Originally posted by Soljer
Capt, you don't need to tell me what happened. I have the issue. Hell, I posted the friggin scans just a few posts above yours.Also notice where I said that I was KIDDING. I mentioned earlier in this thread that it'd be a close fight.
ya lol that was my bad I typed the in before seeig your post
ya it close could possiably go either way.
Originally posted by Soleran
Captain AmericaYou're making a HUGE assumption Wolverine can land nerve strikes every blow and cause more damage, that's your assumption and NO WHERE and NEVER has Wolverine done such a thing.
It's not going to happen here either.
Without claws or healing factor, Wolverine doesn't have what it takes to get the majority. He can get some wins but he isn't getting majority.
I am not making assumption it a fact he will aim for weak points and vital locations. He will also being deflexing most of spidermans attacks. spiderman will dodge, however he not big on deflextions nor is he a profficient combatant in that form. With the lose of his spider sense his ability to know were logan will attack is non existent. He will have to be fighting with his eyes rather then with a sixth sense which will inmder him greatly. He also not a skilled fighter and will have no idea how to react or even dodge Logans attacks when he falls into a beserker rage
Originally posted by capt it up
I am not making assumption it a fact he will aim for weak points and vital locations. He will also being deflexing most of spidermans attacks. spiderman will dodge, however he not big on deflextions nor is he a profficient combatant in that form. With the lose of his spider sense his ability to know were logan will attack is non existent. He will have to be fighting with his eyes rather then with a sixth sense which will inmder him greatly. He also not a skilled fighter and will have no idea how to react or even dodge Logans attacks when he falls into a beserker rage
Speculation at best.
Originally posted by Soleran
Speculation at best.
spiderman stated his spider sense helps to make up for the fact he does not have ay forum training or skills in MA.
with out it he be going against a guy who kows what he gunna do before he does it. A guy who can react to all his movements with far superior skill.
spidermans only advantage in this fight is his strength which is good however wolverine skills make all the difference. Logan can tell were spiderman will attack and simply deflex or dodge it while attacking him self. Spiderman does not have the skill to deflex logans attacks. he can ddoge them however with out spider sense he unlikly to dodge more then a few attacks at best becuase he no longer knows the attacks comming.
Spiderman is a skilled brawler, he's a good fighter, he's not the world's best, but he can definitely throw down.
Furthermore Logan is hardly shown using his great skill nearly enough, in fact I'd say he's underwritten in that aspect, as the writers would rather make him charge in. He has the potential but he doesn't use it like he should
Spiderman's Spider-sense is his icing, Wolverine's healing is his cake, Wolverine would have been out in sooo many matches if his durability was taken out, considering how many hits he willingly takes.
Originally posted by capt it up
not really.spiderman stated his spider sense helps to make up for the fact he does not have ay forum training or skills in MA.
with out it he be going against a guy who kows what he gunna do before he does it. A guy who can react to all his movements with far superior skill.
spidermans only advantage in this fight is his strength which is good however wolverine skills make all the difference. Logan can tell were spiderman will attack and simply deflex or dodge it while attacking him self. Spiderman does not have the skill to deflex logans attacks. he can ddoge them however with out spider sense he unlikly to dodge more then a few attacks at best becuase he no longer knows the attacks comming.
He still is more agile, spiderman still has skills what we have here is a classic response due thanks to my friend Badabing:
Badabing wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 09:13 PM:
Is this the post?
In a fanboys mind, the person they like is amped up by 100 and gets to "shoot" first. Their character is also only gauged by high showings. The person who they think should lose just sits there and takes the abuse while their powers are made null and void. This character is only gauged by their lowest showings.
Originally posted by Soleran
He still is more agile, spiderman still has skills what we have here is a classic response due thanks to my friend Badabing:Badabing wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 09:13 PM:
Is this the post?In a fanboys mind, the person they like is amped up by 100 and gets to "shoot" first. Their character is also only gauged by high showings. The person who they think should lose just sits there and takes the abuse while their powers are made null and void. This character is only gauged by their lowest showings.
yes and all agility will do is help him stay on his feat and movearound a little. agility is a really overated ability. his agility is no that much betetr then wolverines.
ya you should take that advice. Your arguing that spiderman will be landing and dodging hits with the lose of the one ability that he uses to achieve this. With out spider sense he has no means to combat the training and skill of superior fighter when speed and reflex are in his range.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman is a skilled brawler, he's a good fighter, he's not the world's best, but he can definitely throw down.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]Furthermore Logan is hardly shown using his great skill nearly enough, in fact I'd say he's underwritten in that aspect, as the writers would rather make him charge in. He has the potential but he doesn't use it like he should]
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]Spiderman's Spider-sense is his icing, Wolverine's healing is his cake, Wolverine would have been out in sooo many matches if his durability was taken out, considering how many hits he willingly takes.
difference is wolverine does not need his healing factor. He had it taken away quite a few times and was perfectly able to battle people even the likes of sabertooth.
Originally posted by capt it up
yes and all agility will do is help him stay on his feat and movearound a little. agility is a really overated ability. his agility is no that much betetr then wolverines.ya you should take that advice. Your arguing that spiderman will be landing and dodging hits with the lose of the one ability that he uses to achieve this. With out spider sense he has no means to combat the training and skill of superior fighter when speed and reflex are in his range.
Discussion= poop
all you have is speculation.🙁
Nothing like a good fan to blind facts🙂 That would be aimed at Wolverine folks for this discussion.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's always overrated when Wolverine doesn't have it.Prove that it's not that much better, last I checked Spiderman was pretty much the most agile in marvel.
No it simply overated period. Wolverine uses it constantly. Wolverine possiably the stealthest person in marvel and thats due sololy to agility and beable tocontrol your breathing. Agility is needed highly for assassins it possiably there msot needed ability.
so maybe I was slightly hasty sayign it was overated. It was overated in the sense it effectiveness in battle. agility is only effectiveif the person ahs the reflexes to go alone with the agility.
Logan has made people think he was night crawler as well as beast before through use of agility alone.
Originally posted by capt it upWith disguises but characters like Beast, DD, and Nightcrawler (with Spiderman) are far more agile, and it makes them unique. Agility doesn't equate to stealthiness my friend, it equates that he's had more experience.
No it simply overated period. Wolverine uses it constantly. Wolverine possiably the stealthest person in marvel and thats due sololy to agility and beable tocontrol your breathing. Agility is needed highly for assassins it possiably there msot needed ability.so maybe I was slightly hasty sayign it was overated. It was overated in the sense it effectiveness in battle. agility is only effectiveif the person ahs the reflexes to go alone with the agility.
Logan has made people think he was night crawler as well as beast before through use of agility alone.
Actually I can think of several more stealthy characters, like Kitty Pride. She would be harder to detect than Logan.
Originally posted by capt it upWait one question: does the fact that he's fought for decades go out the door, despite the fact he's gone without it.
ya blind fact? last I check you think spidermans going to be dodging all these atatcks and landing all these hits when his only equalizer for training and skill is gone
Spidersense=icing. Healing=cake.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
With disguises but characters like Beast, DD, and Nightcrawler (with Spiderman) are far more agile, and it makes them unique. Agility doesn't equate to stealthiness my friend, it equates that he's had more experience.Actually I can think of several more stealthy characters, like Kitty Pride. She would be harder to detect than Logan.
false. stealthness is solo due to agility. Agility to the key attribute for a person to be stealthy. Expereince means nothing if you do not have the agility then your unable to be stealthy.
kitty pride also due to her ability is actauly superior in agility to spiderman. She can walk on air.