Spider-man vs Wolverine (fist fight)

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Originally posted by capt it up
false. stealthness is solo due to agility. Agility to the key attribute for a person to be stealthy. Expereince means nothing if you do not have the agility then your unable to be stealthy.

Wrong, stealth isn't just based on not making noise, stealth is the ability to not be detected at all. Size, dexterity, and everything is part of stealthiness. Actually dexterity is more accurate because it refers to technical skill. So no, it isn't. If that were the case, cloaking jet's and devices would rely on agiilty alone. Experience means plenty, a person can have the agility in the world and not be stealthy. Logan was a ninja, therefore he's stealthy.

Originally posted by capt it up
kitty pride also due to her ability is actauly superior in agility to spiderman. She can walk on air.

That has nothing to do with agility. She can't move better than him.

Originally posted by capt it up
what? refraze the question. does not make to much sense in the form it put in.
Does the fact that he's fought for decades not count as experience? Formal training is vastly overrated.

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Originally posted by capt it up
not really I like a lot of characters

such as mace windu, kuwabara, rock lee, bruenor battle hammer, tigra and spiderman as well as others

Wolverine owns Charlie... 😛

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wait one question: does the fact that he's fought for decades go out the door, despite the fact he's gone without it.

Spidersense=icing. Healing=cake.

I just want to point out that Spiderman would have died nearly as often without his spider sense as Wolverine would have without his healing factor.

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Originally posted by Soljer
I just want to point out that Spiderman would have died nearly as often without his spider sense as Wolverine would have without his healing factor.
That's a good argument, but I'd counterargue that by saying his healing factor doesn't go off as often as Logan takes, and takes, and takes hits. Spiderman's sense isn't infalliable either, and he's taken hits because of it. So he's had it fail on him and live.

The times where I'd say it's life and death is situations like a car coming out of nowhere or a person sniping at him from above. Other than that it'd be icing, most likely it's that extra boost. Unlike DD who needs his sense to be able to function correctly.

Wolverine has taxed his body WITH healing, so without it he wouldn't be able to take much damage at all, much less than Spiderman, and he's physically inferior to boot.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Does the fact that he's fought for decades not count as experience? Formal training is vastly overrated.

He ahs experience however it all relient on the spidersense. Wihth out the spidersense hsis tyle pritty mute. he never really had to fight a person with out the use of the spider sense.

His spider sense is his equallizer as stated by him self with out it how well would he fair? He not going to beable to know his opponets moves which will hinder his ability to react greatly.

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's a good argument, but I'd counterargue that by saying his healing factor doesn't go off as often as Logan takes, and takes, and takes hits. Spiderman's sense isn't infalliable either, and he's taken hits because of it. So he's had it fail on him and live.

The times where I'd say it's life and death is situations like a car coming out of nowhere or a person sniping at him from above. Other than that it'd be icing, most likely it's that extra boost. Unlike DD who needs his sense to be able to function correctly.

Wolverine has taxed his body WITH healing, so without it he wouldn't be able to take much damage at all, much less than Spiderman, and he's physically inferior to boot.

Agreed, to a point.

I was just saying. You point out Logan's reliance on a healing factor...Spidey relies just as much on his spider sense.

capt it up Senior Member

much less then spiderman? doubtful. Logan actaully has stated enchanced durability I never heard the same said of spiderman

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Originally posted by Soljer
Agreed, to a point.

I was just saying. You point out Logan's reliance on a healing factor...Spidey relies just as much on his spider sense.

I'd say around as much, I would be much more worried for Logan, Peter has even ignored his sense or had it negated on several occasions, but held his own with the Symbiotes.

He needs it to survive day to day, but in a situation where a person is right in front of him (and not some kinda surprise attack), it's much less needed. Healing is much more passive and always needed.

Originally posted by capt it up
He ahs experience however it all relient on the spidersense. Wihth out the spidersense hsis tyle pritty mute. he never really had to fight a person with out the use of the spider sense.

That doesn't count the dozens of times that he's fought symbiotes and held his own, or had his sense neutralized.

Originally posted by capt it up
His spider sense is his equallizer as stated by him self with out it how well would he fair? He not going to beable to know his opponets moves which will hinder his ability to react greatly.
No, it makes a bigger difference when his senses are toyed with, like they are with Iron Man. It gives him that edge, but he won't just sit and be useless like you are saying he is.

Originally posted by capt it up
much less then spiderman? doubtful. Logan actaully has stated enchanced durability I never heard the same said of spiderman
Are you saying he has human durability?

Because I read logan takes it at the rate of a human (he can be cut by a piece of glass, etc).

Spiderman has a really tight musculstature and skeletal body to support his lifting weight, that with his super metabolism.

He takes hits that would kill a man all the time, he fought morlun for days. Without his healing he won't take as much as Spiderman, it's not even worth arguing.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That doesn't count the dozens of times that he's fought symbiotes and held his own, or had his sense neutralized.

Through plot devices. The symbiotes are worse fighters then he is that not really impressive.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, it makes a bigger difference when his senses are toyed with, like they are with Iron Man. It gives him that edge, but he won't just sit and be useless like you are saying he is.

No one said he would be however he will be out fought by his vastly more skilled oponet.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Are you saying he has human durability?

No, but I am saying it less then Logan.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because I read logan takes it at the rate of a human (he can be cut by a piece of glass, etc).

So can spiderman

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman has a really tight musculstature and skeletal body to support his lifting weight, that with his super metabolism.

He takes hits that would kill a man all the time, he fought morlun for days. Without his healing he won't take as much as Spiderman, it's not even worth arguing.


I know this however it never been stated once in a spiderman source or comic.

His skeleton structure is weaker then that of wolverines. Also Logan has beyond human durability prior to the weapon x program who increased it further by chemically inducing his muscles to give him greater durability

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Originally posted by capt it up
Through plot devices. The symbiotes are worse fighters then he is that not really impressive.
Anytime you don't like something it's a plot device.

What does fighting skill matter when they can lob your frickin' head off with a swipe, from a far distance, and are stronger and faster.

It's a hell of a lot more impressive. Spiderman can hold his own (though not beat) with the symbiotes. Don't try to downplay it.

Originally posted by capt it up
No one said he would be however he will be out fought by his vastly more skilled oponet.
Not with his strength, agility, etc.

Do you realize he can "if he wanted to" kill, or web an opponent entirely with no trouble? Spiderman's a pretty funny guy, you'd be surprised to what he can do.

Originally posted by capt it up
No, but I am saying it less then Logan.

You can't be serious.

Originally posted by capt it up
So can spiderman

His body is still much more dense and durable, due to his body being strong to support his lifting weight. So it won't do as much, punching Spiderman has been said to feel like steel to normal people.

Originally posted by capt it up
I know this however it never been stated once in a spiderman source or comic.

Originally posted by capt it up
His skeleton structure is weaker then that of wolverines. Also Logan has beyond human durability prior to the weapon x program who increased it further by chemically inducing his muscles to give him greater durability
And we're not including that in this matchup are we?

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Anytime you don't like something it's a plot device.

It the fact they jobb to spiderman. Wolverine has an even better record vs them then spiderman and the fact it neither spiderman or wolverine should beable to take them on.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What does fighting skill matter when they can lob your frickin' head off with a swipe, from a far distance, and are stronger and faster.

Yet they never do this. It quite funny how both of them fight like retards all the time pretty much begging to be defeated.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's a hell of a lot more impressive. Spiderman can hold his own (though not beat) with the symbiotes. Don't try to downplay it.

Big whoop logans record vs them in a hell of a lot more impressive.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not with his strength, agility, etc.

Do you realize he can "if he wanted to" kill, or web an opponent entirely with no trouble? Spiderman's a pretty funny guy, you'd be surprised to what he can do.


I read him monthly I know what he capably of. This is a fist fight if you have forgotten. He could not kill or webb logan with no trouble.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You can't be serious.

I am completely serous.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
His body is still much more dense and durable,

False. He weights less and is taller which means his body less dense. Again your using real world logic in comics.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
due to his body being strong to support his lifting weight.

Strength does not equal durability at all.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So it won't do as much, punching Spiderman has been said to feel like steel to normal people.

Your point? Extremely strong opponets have hurt this fist punching logan.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And we're not including that in this matchup are we?

Why would we not include it?

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Originally posted by capt it up
It the fact they jobb to spiderman. Wolverine has an even better record vs them then spiderman and the fact it neither spiderman or wolverine should beable to take them on.

Yet they never do this. It quite funny how both of them fight like retards all the time pretty much begging to be defeated.

Big whoop logans record vs them in a hell of a lot more impressive.


Where have they fought like retards? Logan has never beaten carnage nor venom. They fight like brawlers an in-character against Spiderman seeing as they originated from him. They fought with retards like Logan going up close like that.

The sad part is: He had his healing factor! Spidersense was negated, therefore you point is mute in the first place.

If you say Logan could last 5 seconds against Venom I'd say there's no more point to this, if he doesn't have his HF.

Originally posted by capt it up
I read him monthly I know what he capably of. This is a fist fight if you have forgotten. He could not kill or webb logan with no trouble.

He could web him just fine.

And he can kill him just fine too.

Originally posted by capt it up
I am completely serous.

The sad part.

Originally posted by capt it up
False. He weights less and is taller which means his body less dense. Again your using real world logic in comics.

Nope, it's even stated in comics. YOU'RE using real world logic.

Because Spiderman can even stretch superhumanly even though he is that strong.

How else would he be able to lift that weight??

Originally posted by capt it up
Strength does not equal durability at all.

Um, to be able to lift and pull that body of force, your body has to be able to take it.

This is starting to be a waste of time. 😬

Originally posted by capt it up
Your point? Extremely strong opponets have hurt this fist punching logan.

On his organs? Show me where. (I won't ever see it).

Originally posted by capt it up
Why would we not include it?
Because it's not the point to what I was saying at all.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Where have they fought like retards? Logan has never beaten carnage nor venom.

I think he defeat venom once. He has never once lost to venom that’s more the spiderman can say.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They fight like brawlers an in-character against Spiderman seeing as they originated from him.

Ya like retards. Given there powers if they were smart they kill spiderman instantly

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He could web him just fine.

And he can kill him just fine too.


He could do neither. Also are you forgetting is a fist fight no webbing?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The sad part. .

not when you have knowledge of his abilites

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Um, to be able to lift and pull that body of force, your body has to be able to take it.

Not in comics. Su spot a prime example of this.

Hell luke cage was a class 3 for a while and yet he was far more durable then spiderman.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
On his organs? Show me where. (I won't ever see it).
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Who said any thing about organs. I said punching him.

Warpath did as well as rough house. If you want I give you the issue numbers. They hurt them selfs punching his face,

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because it's not the point to what I was saying at all.

You said he not as durable and I stated he is as durable and explained how his durability was increased

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So the fact that Venom and Carnage are stupid doesn't make it PIS, that makes it CIS.

And logan didn't lose his healing, so the rest of that argument is moot.

Either way we've both made our points and now it's circular, I want to focus my attention on a better thread. ✅

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So the fact that Venom and Carnage are stupid doesn't make it PIS, that makes it CIS.

And logan didn't lose his healing, so the rest of that argument is moot.

Either way we've both made our points and now it's circular, I want to focus my attention on a better thread. ✅


aight.

I can't spend to much more time I have not started my paper yet and it due tommarrow I got to source 9 different stories as well as quote them

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I know what you mean. I have TWO twelve page papers to write, I'm so gonna get my ass torn off. 🙁

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I know what you mean. I have TWO twelve page papers to write, I'm so gonna get my ass torn off. 🙁

🙁 Kmc does this to people...i had a paper due last week ...but i started it the last min to because I was on the respect threads.

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I know what you mean. I have TWO twelve page papers to write, I'm so gonna get my ass torn off. 🙁

ugggg that horriable

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Originally posted by jasonk3
🙁 Kmc does this to people...i had a paper due last week ...but i started it the last min to because I was on the respect threads.
I'll get on it, I'm just being lazy in general... but procrastination is a *****. I'm on spring break and I can't break, having two jobs and all.

Wolverine2006 X-man

Wolverine is a skilled fighter he could win some of these fights but I would give Spidey the majority