Dr. Doom and Magneto versus Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doom is NEVER EVER taking Mr. Sinister nor Apoc for any majority without some serious prep. I just don't see it.

Ignorance...

Anyway...

Doom breaks into Strange's house (said to be impossible). He also takes out a weakened Surfer.

He is also about to take out Strange before Warlock came in.

Is... Apoc as powerful as Thanos with the Power Gem?

Or, do either Apoc or Sinister get Thanos's respect?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait. If they're using Current Apoc, there's no point. I won't argue for him in this thread. 🙁

Originally posted by bigbran
😆
you don't see it?

Ignorance...

Anyway...

Doom breaks into Strange's house (said to be impossible). He also takes out a weakened Surfer.

He is also about to take out Strange before Warlock came in.

Is... Apoc as powerful as Thanos with the Power Gem?

Or, do either Apoc or Sinister get Thanos's respect?

Well, there was no saying who it was, but whatever, use Classic...

That is some serious PIS. Plus I don't know the circumstances behind those scans. I don't trust scans without knowing the whole story or having some knowlege of the events fresh in my mind.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is some serious PIS. Plus I don't know the circumstances behind those scans. I don't trust scans without knowing the whole story or having some knowlege of the events fresh in my mind.

Also, that is basically the whole story behind the scans.

Originally posted by bigbran
Why is it pis, oh, because Doom is more powerful than you thought?

Also, that is basically the whole story behind the scans.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO doom is just where I always thought he was. He still doesn't beat either of these two in my opinion. He doesn't have the power to dish out enough dmg to either. ANd considering both of them are remarkably faster than doom, I dont' see him laying a hand on either.

Also... faster? Where in the hell did you get this shit? Doom can hit them just fine.
Especially Sinister...

Plus, Mags is there. Plus, both have near industructable shields (especially compared to these two).
Doom also has spells, and is the second best magic user on the planet.

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, so laying out Surfer, Warlock, Magus, Kang, isn't enough power to damage Apoc?

Also... faster? Where in the hell did you get this shit? Doom can hit them just fine.
Especially Sinister...

Plus, Mags is there. Plus, both have near industructable shields (especially compared to these two).
Doom also has spells, and is the second best magic user on the planet.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes and Apoc and Mister Sinister and just weak as kittens and dumb as doornobs. Apoc and Sinister are every bit as powerful and smart as mags and Doom. And they both have superior dmg resistance and molecular control

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And exactly what would doom do to apoc? Or mr sinister? What could he possibly do? There is no prep here.

Doom and Magneto have superior Shields. (Insane damage soak). That alone makes things hard on the opposing team.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
wnd best magic user on the planet? WTF. Yet he can't beat the FF and he hasn't managed to take over the world yet. OMG. That shit with him laying out surfer is PIS. Warlock PIS. magus. PIS. maybe kang. I'm sticking with my opinion. Doom cannot defeat Sinister or Apoc without prep. You can argue till your blue in the face. I guess doom will be the next KMC flash/superman/iceman/thanos/thor/odin over rated blah blah blah.

Also, I haven't seen Apoc do anything on Doom's level of plans...
What about Doom having Beyonder's powers, and Galactus's powers?
Doom also controls his own country.

You really have nothing, and yet, any feat is pis?

Yes, because we all know that a character fully capable of beating Apoc is overated... 🙄

Wow...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
wnd best magic user on the planet? WTF. Yet he can't beat the FF and he hasn't managed to take over the world yet. OMG. That shit with him laying out surfer is PIS. Warlock PIS. magus. PIS. maybe kang. I'm sticking with my opinion. Doom cannot defeat Sinister or Apoc without prep. You can argue till your blue in the face. I guess doom will be the next KMC flash/superman/iceman/thanos/thor/odin over rated blah blah blah.

Doom has had a better track record then all 4 villains mentioned.

Apo. Wanabe world ruler for I don’t know how long (with Celestails aid).
Magneto, at least he killed Apo in his AoA.
Doom, has stolen Glactus power, stolen Molecules Mans power. Insane prep time.
Sinister - makes Cable and X-man (both turned on him, hell X-Man beat him to death).

Originally posted by id369
Doom has had a better track record then all 4 villains mentioned.

Apo. Wanabe world ruler for I don’t know how long (with Celestails aid).
Magneto, at least he killed Apo in his AoA.
Doom, has stolen Glactus power, stolen Molecules Mans power. Insane prep time.
Sinister - makes Cable and X-man (both turned on him, hell X-Man beat him to death).

I also think Magneto has a better track record than the other two, too...

sinister's track record is excellent. He gave himself powers, and managed to live far beyond that of a normal human's life span. He then managed to create one of the most powerful beings to ever walk the plaent. I think he did what he set out to do. I also remember miss pryor being uber too. didn't he have somethign to do with that?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
sinister's track record is excellent. He gave himself powers, and managed to live far beyond that of a normal human's life span. He then managed to create one of the most powerful beings to ever walk the plaent. I think he did what he set out to do. I also remember miss pryor being uber too. didn't he have somethign to do with that?

Originally posted by bigbran
Create beings that defy him?

I thought his goal was to make beings who could kill apoc. Isn't that what he set out to do?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought his goal was to make beings who could kill apoc. Isn't that what he set out to do?

Trust me when I say this nvr. Doom himself takes this fight in pretty much the same fashion he did in those scans. He beats the crap outta the other team, then turns on his own teammate. Or he turns on his teammate and beats the crap outta the other team. Doom stands alone in victory.

You need to tweak your perception of Doom. FF beats him, yes. Because they are the FF. Personally, it's not such a shame to be beaten by Reed (Galactus-pwning) Richards and company. Yes, you may be rooting for underrated characters and that's cool and all, but Doom is not overrated. If you wanted me to list what he could bring to a fight if he were suddenly transported and taken out of his element and has no prep, it'd take me a quite a while.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Trust me when I say this nvr. Doom himself takes this fight in pretty much the same fashion he did in those scans. He beats the crap outta the other team, then turns on his own teammate. Or he turns on his teammate and beats the crap outta the other team. Doom stands alone in victory.

You need to tweak your perception of Doom. FF beats him, yes. Because they are the FF. Personally, it's not such a shame to be beaten by Reed (Galactus-pwning) Richards and company. Yes, you may be rooting for underrated characters and that's cool and all, but Doom is not overrated. If you wanted me to list what he could bring to a fight if he were suddenly transported and taken out of his element and has no prep, it'd take me a quite a while.

I"m not buying it. Most any Top tier heroe or villian has been shown owning uber guys and teams before. I believe that doom without prep cannot defeat either of these guys. that is my opinion. I just don't see it. One would have to be insanely powerful to actually be able to seriously hurt apoc. Like on the lvl of nate. that is why sinister made him so powerful becuz he needed to be.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"m not buying it. Most any Top tier heroe or villian has been shown owning uber guys and teams before. I believe that doom without prep cannot defeat either of these guys. that is my opinion. I just don't see it. One would have to be insanely powerful to actually be able to seriously hurt apoc. Like on the lvl of nate. that is why sinister made him so powerful becuz he needed to be.

Also, Doom was shown pawning just about every magic user that competed in a game.
Although Strange defeated twice as much, that is still VERY impressive.

So... Crimson Bands for the win.

This was back in the day(meaning he's better now).

Also, Apoc is no Strange, neither is Sinister, and both aren't magic users, so... they are f*cked.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, and most have went against him (well, Nate anyway).

Sinister has also built his own living bases, stopped Gambit from becoming New Sun, wrecked people like Madelyn Pryor and Malice.

Can Mags' shields stop TK?

This thread is spite. Doom is too uber.

Originally posted by bigbran

So...

Doom TRIES to harm a Strange that doesn't even want to fight, absolutley fails, and his own spell is easily cast back at him?

Meh.