Originally posted by Rutog98
I've defended my points very well on this board. I simply chose not to go into it again here as I have made my point time and again in the Storm/Magneto threads.
They DEFINITELY can't handle me in the argument department. 😎
They have to resort to fallacies, semantics, false analogies, obtuseness etc etc.
The ironic thing is, when fed that same garbage, they get " 😠 "
Anyway, Polaris still dies😐
Originally posted by 2damnloud
They DEFINITELY can't handle me in the argument department. 😎They have to resort to fallacies, semantics, false analogies, obtuseness etc etc.
The ironic thing is, when fed that same garbage, they get " 😠 "
Anyway, Polaris still dies😐
The problem is that you and Rutog98 make claims of a character that do fit the profile. You induce that Storm can exponentially more than what she is and even went as far as to say that if would be ok for her to become omniversal. You then asked me what other character can match her and when I say PF fits the profile, you hesitantly agree and then say something along the lines of Storm wearing power better. That is nothing but garbage to me. How in the hell does Storm hold power better than PF. The source of Storm's powers is sketchy at best while we know that PF is telekinetic godhood at a sub-atomic level, and not only that but PF is the ongoing spark that restarts the universe over and over again. It makes more sense that there is a multi or omni PF for the multiverse and the omniverse, than for Storm to become an omniversal power.
Nothing you or Rutog presented by your posts shows your claims, which you have stated to be your opinion.
Your answer of the writers can do what they want is not enough on this board, because youi admitted that the same can be done of any character with the exception of Storm doing it out of her own power instead of an external power source.
Remember that the same can be said of the PF and the force is the who was written up not Storm.
After the freaken PF retcon there has not been another statement made that proves that Storm = PF. The retcon pretty much said it all.
All these Storm vs threads are rediculous.
Why not end it all and make a FP Storm vs TOAA, since you said that she can evolve past her power source, and the ultimate source being TOAA.
Originally posted by bean_machine
The problem is that you and Rutog98 make claims of a character that do fit the profile. You induce that Storm can exponentially more than what she is and even went as far as to say that if would be ok for her to become omniversal. You then asked me what other character can match her and when I say PF fits the profile, you hesitantly agree and then say something along the lines of Storm wearing power better. That is nothing but garbage to me. How in the hell does Storm hold power better than PF. The source of Storm's powers is sketchy at best while we know that PF is telekinetic godhood at a sub-atomic level, and not only that but PF is the ongoing spark that restarts the universe over and over again. It makes more sense that there is a multi or omni PF for the multiverse and the omniverse, than for Storm to become an omniversal power.Nothing you or Rutog presented by your posts shows your claims, which you have stated to be your opinion.
Your answer of the writers can do what they want is not enough on this board, because youi admitted that the same can be done of any character with the exception of Storm doing it out of her own power instead of an external power source.
Remember that the same can be said of the PF and the force is the who was written up not Storm.
After the freaken PF retcon there has not been another statement made that proves that Storm = PF. The retcon pretty much said it all.
All these Storm vs threads are rediculous.
Why not end it all and make a FP Storm vs TOAA, since you said that she can evolve past her power source, and the ultimate source being TOAA.
It's about Hierarchy, that's why people can't accept certain things.
Get over it. 😆
Somebody MADE UP the Phoenix one day just as someone can kill the Phoenix off. GET OVER IT.
The PF was introduced one day, no one knew what a PF was before then, now PF is EVERYTHING, BLAH.
It's when people have SERIOUS ISSUES with a character (Storm) being written up past certain levels that she can be written at with perfect continuity that the ridiculousness becomes apparent.
It's a comic, use your imaginations kids. I think thats the problem--It's no vision beyond a certain point. That's why ADULTS write the comics 😆
Polaris still dies.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's about Hierarchy, that's why people can't accept certain things.Get over it. 😆
A higerarchy where Storm is no where near the top of.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Somebody MADE UP the Phoenix one day just as someone can kill the Phoenix off. GET OVER IT.The PF was introduced one day, no one knew what a PF was before then, now PF is EVERYTHING, BLAH.
Somebody MADE UP Storm one day just as someone can kill Storm off. GET OVER IT.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's when people have SERIOUS ISSUES with a character (Storm) being written up past certain levels that she can be written at with perfect continuity that the ridiculousness becomes apparent.
Interestingly this statement is only possible if you actively ignore Storm's continuity.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's a comic, use your imaginations kids. I think thats the problem--It's no vision beyond a certain point. That's why ADULTS write the comics 😆
Could Storm be written to a cosmic level? Sure why not.
Could Jubilee or Cyclops or Taskmaster be written to a cosmic level just as easily? Yup
Will that happen to any of them? No a chance
Do any of them have consistent feats that put them at that level? Nope. This isn't a site where we debate about what powers could be given to a character. This is a site where we debate using the powers they possess and use.
You mention vision. You invision Storm as a TOAA level entity despite her never showing that kind of power (even at her most insane feats). I would call that blindness.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Polaris still dies.
Possibly.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A higerarchy where Storm is no where near the top of.
Yea, but omg if she is/becomes " 😠 ". That's the thing that's ridiculous. 😆
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosSomebody MADE UP Storm one day just as someone can kill Storm off. GET OVER IT.
True, so PF and Storm are equal
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosInterestingly this statement is only possible if you actively ignore Storm's continuity.
Could Storm be written to a cosmic level? Sure why not.
Could Jubilee or Cyclops or Taskmaster be written to a cosmic level just as easily? Yup
Will that happen to any of them? No a chance
See first response to quote "Omg if she is... 😠 " waa, wah, wah. Cry cry 🙄
The fact that you even compare Cyclops and Jubilee to Ororo is ridiculous 😘
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You mention vision. You invision Storm as a TOAA level entity despite her never showing that kind of power (even at her most insane feats). I would call that blindness.
Strawman.
Never said that. 😘
You're using MY IDEA of a FP Storm and asserting that is what I'm saying her level is today. You can then attack it as being ridiculous without even considering it. 🙄
Same ol same ol
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Possibly.
Definitely
Originally posted by bean_machine
Where are the fallicies in my argument. And don't point out the last blatant exaggerated sentence I made to add a dramatic effect to the freaking post.
I missed this post.
Your whole premise is false as far as I'm concerned. I don't know about Rutog.
He and I are two totally different people.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, but omg if she is/becomes " 😠 ". That's the thing that's ridiculous. 😆
Use fewer emoticons. It's hard to understand you.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
True, so PF and Storm are equal
Not really. Check out Storm's normal power feats and then PF's normal feats.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
See first response to quote "Omg if she is... 😠 " waa, wah, wah. Cry cry 🙄
Projection
Originally posted by 2damnloud
The fact that you even compare Cyclops and Jubilee to Ororo is ridiculous 😘
But Taskmaster is easily on her level I'm sure 🙄
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Strawman.Never said that. 😘
You're using MY IDEA of an FP Storm and asserting that it is what I'm saying her level is today.
Since you always debate her as being FP I'm perfectly justified in my argument.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
You can then attack it as being ridiculous without even considering it. 🙄
I did consider it.
TOAA = everything that has ever happened in Marvel ever
Storm's best feat = controling about a Galaxy's worth of stars
Yeah Storm totally has more testaments to her power 🙄
This fight is pretty good actually. I seem to remember Storm saying that she and Polaris is very close in power. But I would give this fight to Polaris 7-8/10 due to the fact that they are fighting in or close to a junkyard. If they were fighting in an open field I would give both 5/10 against one another.
Magneto however have ALWAYS been displayed at higher level of power and would curbstomp Storm 10/10 (just accept it Storm fanboys)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Use fewer emoticons. It's hard to understand you.
Ok.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not really. Check out Storm's normal power feats and then PF's normal feats.
Storm's power is based on her connection the the infinitesimal energies of the Universe, and even in other realities?? It could be written that it is THEE God that powers her, and not the PF, you never know 😮💨 . Are power displays great?? Sure. Feat's don't detract from Storm's abilities though. You get into the "If then, why not" logic.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosProjection
Of what??
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosBut Taskmaster is easily on her level I'm sure 🙄
😘
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I did consider it.TOAA = everything that has ever happened in Marvel ever
Storm's best feat = controling about a Galaxy's worth of starsYeah Storm totally has more testaments to her power 🙄
Strawman. Never said that.
Storm's powers comes from her connection to the Earth. This has expaned to the universe even up until this very DAY.
The ultimate, top peak for Storm in MY OINION would be a connection to EVERYTHING with no limit. Is she there yet, of course NOT. Why make an argumnet like I've stated she is there??
You keep talking about feats, or lack thereof and ignore how said feats WORKED.
She doesn't use her powers based on the EM spectrum perse, they are based on her connection the universe, Earth first. Everything else is a byproduct, feats included.