Ultimate Colossus versus Hercules

the fight you are talking about hercules powers were cut in half by zeus in avengers after zeus to hercules he wll not extend taylor madison life because her purpose for living was over. catching a train is crap compare to punching a time/dimension portal closed, dragging an entire city, holding the earth for a thousand years, generating enough physical force to knock the planet out of it orbit, fighting ego the living planet, beating warlock to an inch of his life, beating firelord, beating the entire wreking crew to save thor, holding his own against the celestial slayer, and the destroyer, stalemating drax, and thor in h2h, and beating the high evolutionary. Ult Colossus strength feats are nothing but crap compare to those of hercules

Originally posted by hunbu04
the fight you are talking about hercules powers were cut in half by zeus in avengers after zeus to hercules he wll not extend taylor madison life because her purpose for living was over. catching a train is crap compare to punching a time/dimension portal closed, dragging an entire city, holding the earth for a thousand years, generating enough physical force to knock the planet out of it orbit, fighting ego the living planet, beating warlock to an inch of his life, beating firelord, beating the entire wreking crew to save thor, holding his own against the celestial slayer, and the destroyer, stalemating drax, and thor in h2h, and beating the high evolutionary. Ult Colossus strength feats are nothing but crap compare to those of hercules

hercules has never been shown to be stronger than Savage Hulk though.

no one has been shown to be stronger than savage hulk . and ult colossus is not even a peer to top tier level characters.

Should be a good fight. Goliath knocked Hercs. @ss out cold with a couple judo tosses maybe Colossus could do the same. Herc. should win this though. Ult. Thors experience didn't seem to help him very much in his battle with Colossus however.

Goliath or Atlas
Herc did pay Atlas back for that cheap shot in Avengers When hercules trashed the entire thunderbolts roster and it was even stated in that issue that hercules was still depower and Atlas himself admitted that mortal hercules was more powerful than him

Originally posted by hunbu04
Goliath or Atlas
Herc did pay Atlas back for that cheap shot in Avengers When hercules trashed the entire thunderbolts roster and it was even stated in that issue that hercules was still depower and Atlas himself admitted that mortal hercules was more powerful than him

To be fair Goliath Blind sided him and he was drugged and drunk at the time, hardly a fair fight, plus he had just been fighting Mr Hyde, The Wrecking Crew and Tiger Shark.

Mortal Hercules went through the Thunderbolts and beat Atlas in revenge.

If were talking low end showings, Falcon using his thumbs and a pistol took colossus down, so feat wars swing both ways.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What issue are you talking about?

Hes talking about Thunderbolts 22 I believe.

Originally posted by Hercules
To be fair Goliath Blind sided him and he was drugged and drunk at the time, hardly a fair fight, plus he had just been fighting Mr Hyde, The Wrecking Crew and Tiger Shark.

Mortal Hercules went through the Thunderbolts and beat Atlas in revenge.

If were talking low end showings, Falcon using his thumbs and a pistol took colossus down, so feat wars swing both ways.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That wasn't a low showing for Colossus though. His eyes are vulnerable like Hercs are. Hawkeye just exploited that.

It was Falcon and the point was that Colossus fought like an idiot, he should have crushed Sam before he had the chance.

Jean and Logan got punked in that issue too, Logan even makes reference to it.

At least it took a grenade to take out Logan though, it did show that Colossus is a little naive in combat, being as he is still quite young in the Ultimate universe IIRC.

My point is, that Goliath grabbing a drunken and drugged Herc from behind by his foot and swinging him into stuff before he has chance to react is comparable to Falcon thumbing Peter in the eyes and putting a gun to his eyeballs.

Neither are really impressive showings for either.

Well I don't count that as a low-showing for Colossus. Hawkeye just plain took Colossus down using his brain.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well I don't count that as a low-showing for Colossus. Hawkeye just plain took Colossus down using his brain.

Fair enough but it wasn't Hawkeye, it was Sam Wilson, Falcon, in Ultimate Nightmare.

Originally posted by Hercules
Fair enough but it wasn't Hawkeye, it was Sam Wilson, Falcon, in Ultimate Nightmare.

Hercules drank beer with Galactus. Thats better than any feat Colossus has.

Herc ftw

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That wasn't a low showing for Colossus though. His eyes are vulnerable like Hercs are. Hawkeye just exploited that.

Like herc's?

Isn't Herc about as durable as Thor? Hasn't Thor taken bullets to the eye?

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Herc actually posted in a Hercules thread. You must be bored amigo.

Hercules wins

thanks joljer Hercules is just as durable as thor according to handbook and you guys always going around qouting handbook because it say colossus is nigh invulnerable. what has colossus survive to be nigh invulnerable. what are some of colossus high durability feat. because if you are looking for high durability feats hercules feats dwalf colossus yet again.
while korvac blast first blast killed every other avangers he had to use a second one . Hercules took two point blank shots from korvac and he was still alive.
Warlock Karma Blast was useless against hercules when hercules beat him in infinity watch
The Pososser energy blast was also useless against hercules and he is an elder of the universe

Originally posted by hunbu04
thanks joljer Hercules is just as durable as thor according to handbook and you guys always going around qouting handbook because it say colossus is nigh invulnerable. what has colossus survive to be nigh invulnerable. what are some of colossus high durability feat. because if you are looking for high durability feats hercules feats dwalf colossus yet again.
while korvac blast first blast killed every other avangers he had to use a second one . Hercules took two point blank shots from korvac and he was still alive.
Warlock Karma Blast was useless against hercules when hercules beat him in infinity watch
The Pososser energy blast was also useless against hercules and he is an elder of the universe

I already said Herc. wins. Colossus is just a punk kid yet.

Originally posted by The Pict
It might have happened off panel but Ult Juggernaut powered through the Xavier mansion and Ult Colossus with ease. So he's not the strongest mutant in the Ult universe like he has been said to be a few times.
I thought him gettin up from Magneto's control was stupid writing, but that's the best feat of his I think. And that was more willpower IMO.
And he's a lot less skilled than Hercules so Hercules every time.

I'd just like to clarify that Ult. Juggy took Ult. Colossus completely by surprise. Were they to meet again and ready for each other, I think the tables would be completely turned.

And it's not like Ult. Colossus is weak. He's had some amazing feats. You only need to check his respect thread (it's combined with the 616 Colossus thread) to see them.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That wasn't a low showing for Colossus though. His eyes are vulnerable like Hercs are. Hawkeye just exploited that.

This still does not make any sense. It completely contradicts his two other feats.

1. Lifting the submarine from the OCEAN FLOOR to land. Were his eyes normal/vulnerable, they would've easily popped under the pressure of the extreme depths in which the sub was located.

2. Taking point-blank a localized nuke arrow from Ult. Hawkeye. If his eyes were normal/vulnerable, they would've melted/vaporized in the sockets.

It makes absolutely no sense at all. 🙁