people forget ult.collosus best feat imo.
but the fact of the matter is this, Immortal hercules has held the heavens on his shoulders, crushed Titans skulls into powder, pulled manhattan on his back.
Collosus has lifted subs out the ocean, stopped trains with his bare hands, and resisted ult. magnetos magnetic pull.
The fact of the matter is, that we simply can't go with Collosus in this case for the simple fact that Herc's feats outclass him in everything from strength, to durabilty, and fighting ability. To go with Col. is to go against all facts, and you can do that....i just wouldnt reccomend it.
with Herc's feats, alot of those came in the early days of comics when everything was exaggerated and completely unrealistic...lifting heavens, pulling Manhattan...I mean, come on!
no way could Hercules do any of those things in today's comics...as comics try to strive for some degree of realism.
so I think its unfair to Colossus to use feats of Hercules that are clearly hyperbole.
Originally posted by masterbrucehyperbole??? I mean... how is it hyperbole??? It is well documented that one of labors of hercules was when he replaced the titan atlas, he stood at the edge of the earth and lifted the heavens, and yes he pulled manhattan.
with Herc's feats, alot of those came in the early days of comics when everything was exaggerated and completely unrealistic...lifting heavens, pulling Manhattan...I mean, come on!no way could Hercules do any of those things in today's comics...as comics try to strive for some degree of realism.
so I think its unfair to Colossus to use feats of Hercules that are clearly hyperbole.
Hercules isnt weak, he is unmotivated anytime he ever actually gets serious lately in comics he wins, or dominated, but until he does(get serious) than he seems unimpressive.
the facts is that colossus have not beaten any top tier or herald level characters in his entire life while on the other hand hercules have beaten or stalemated several top tier and herald level characters.
Thor beat H2H/stalemated him in journey into mystry/thor blood oath
Hulk stalemated him in Tales to Astonished 79
HE avenger evolutionary war
Firelord stalemated and humble thor/avangers
Adam Warlock infinity watch
Atlas and the enitre thunderbolts in thunderbolts 22
Drax in infinity watch
beat colossus in two pannel in infinity war
Ares several times
Pluto a death god
Possessor defeated him twice first in thor than in champions
stalemated Maxam and Maxam admitted that they were physically equal
crushed Clor in recent Civil war also in civil war run threw dco samson,she hulk, and spiderman as if they were not there resisted ironman sonic attack
those are just few of hercules feats can you named some of colossus's oh I forgot he got none
Originally posted by King KAM
hyperbole??? I mean... how is it hyperbole??? It is well documented that one of labors of hercules was when he replaced the titan atlas, he stood at the edge of the earth and lifted the heavens, and yes he pulled manhattan.Hercules isnt weak, he is unmotivated anytime he ever actually gets serious lately in comics he wins, or dominated, but until he does(get serious) than he seems unimpressive.
"he stood on the edge of the earth"
think about how stupid that statement is
"lifted the heavens"
Is heaven a tangible object that could be lifted in Marvel comics?
How many tons is heaven?
Originally posted by jasofisc
like you said it happened off panel so colossus could have been in his human form at the time or just not ready and hit with a full power charge. Also there are a number of things that put Ult. colossus ahead of ult. juggernaught in the strength and durriblity department. So yeah he could still be the strongest mutant in the ult. universe.
Ult. Juggernaut is Stronger than Ult. Colossus.
Colossus was in his metal form before Juggernaut attacked the Mansion. The writer even commented that Juggernaut knocked the metal right out of him. I am pretty sure they don't meet again. If so, someone correct me.
Originally posted by masterbruce
comics often don't.btw, who do you think wins this battle?
I'm still not sure actually. Is this Mortal Hercules?
Owning all of the Ultimate X-Men run so far, I know of all the strength feats that Colossus has, and they are very impressive.
I mean, it is entirely possible for Colossus to win this.
By the way, wasn't that "Herc pulling Manhattan" thing just an exaggeration he made up to impress some listeners? I thought I remember there being some joke about it in the comic in which he talks about the supposed feat.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm still not sure actually. Is this Mortal Hercules?Owning all of the Ultimate X-Men run so far, I know of all the strength feats that Colossus has, and they are very impressive.
I mean, it is entirely possible for Colossus to win this.
By the way, wasn't that "Herc pulling Manhattan" thing just an exaggeration he made up to impress some listeners? I thought I remember there being some joke about it in the comic in which he talks about the supposed feat.
this is current herc
Originally posted by Soljer
Herc holding the world may have been Hyperbole.He actually pulled manhattan.
think about it, if he had the strength to lift the world, he should be able to beat other powerhouses like Hulk with his pinky (considering Hulk struggles to lift a mountain, which isn't even 1/1,000,000th the weight of earth)
Originally posted by Metalmanx
By the way, wasn't that "Herc pulling Manhattan" thing just an exaggeration he made up to impress some listeners? I thought I remember there being some joke about it in the comic in which he talks about the supposed feat.
Yeah, it was a huge exaggeration on his part. His was telling story to some kids and even they didn't believe it. I think he even said that he exaggerated a bit.
It looked quite funny as well. He lifts the entire island out of the water from the edge.
Originally posted by masterbruceread some greek mythology than maybe youd know something you ****ing idiot. Hercules newest mini-series, all of his labors were proven to be true, so in 616 continuity, hercules stood at the edge of the earth and held up the heavens.
"he stood on the edge of the earth"think about how stupid that statement is
"lifted the heavens"
Is heaven a tangible object that could be lifted in Marvel comics?
How many tons is heaven?
Originally posted by King KAM
read some greek mythology than maybe youd know something you ****ing idiot. Hercules newest mini-series, all of his labors were proven to be true, so in 616 continuity, hercules stood at the edge of the earth and held up the heavens.
I know my greek mythology...Marvel comics Hercules isn't the same as greek mythology hercules.
You're calling me an idiot yet you think someone could stand on the edge of the earth (just a clue, the earth is a sphere, even in comics, there are no edges, you dumb illiterate d1ck)