Originally posted by masterbruceThe point was it was stated to be unbreakable until proven otherwise. Why was Spiderman's feat hitting Wolverine through unbreakable glass accepted so easily as impressive? It was impressive because it was stated as unbreakable. It is so strong people thought it was unbreakable.
wait, I thought unbreakable meant it could not be broken?If wolverine broke it, doesn't that mean it was NOT unbreakable?
Originally posted by crimsonphoenixNo, it's true.
Sure 😆 then the other guy said unbrealable is bs. Spiderman knocked Wolverine out an unbreakable glass(it was stated) so if I show capt breaking regular glass...what doe sthat mean?
Just because they weigh A in this world, doesn't mean they will weigh the same.
I really don't care what masterbruce says... he is his own person, and I don't care about him.
Originally posted by bigbranYou say this but yet argue real world logic and other stuff like that against wolverine in some threads and say stuff.
No, it's true.
I can see Wolverine being a class 2, or 1 without those scans, but I do have a problem with some real world logic being involved in those.Just because they weigh A in this world, doesn't mean they will weigh the same.
I really don't care what masterbruce says... he is his own person, and I don't care about him.
If you don't want real world logic then it should be said that people liek cap and Batman as peak humans and Wolverine as enhanced meta w/e could take on people in Spidermans range and not get their heads smacked off with one punch because that may be the case in the real world but it is a comic.
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
The point was it was stated to be unbreakable until proven otherwise. Why was Spiderman's feat hitting Wolverine through unbreakable glass accepted so easily as impressive? It was impressive because it was stated as unbreakable. It is so strong people thought it was unbreakable.
well, I don't think it's impressive at all if Spiderman punched Wolverine through unbreakable glass.
It obviously wasn't unbreakable glass at all and complete hyperbole on the writer's part.
see, I'm consistent.
Something is only unbreakable until it gets broken, follow my logic here, people believed that The Titanic was unsinkable, till it met that Iceberg.
That glass would be very much unbreakable if you or I tried to punch someone through it but when someone who can juggle Volvo's tries its a different matter.
Originally posted by masterbruceObiously it is breakable if someone broke it, that isn't the point. Which is more impressive.
well, I don't think it's impressive at all if Spiderman punched Wolverine through unbreakable glass.It obviously wasn't unbreakable glass at all and complete hyperbole on the writer's part.
see, I'm consistent.
1. That chain is easy to break.(guy breaks it)
2. That chain is unbreakable so don't worry, he won't get out. (Guy breaks it)
Mastbruce logic: They both are the same 😱
Originally posted by Hercules
Something is only unbreakable until it gets broken, follow my logic here, people believed that The Titanic was unsinkable, till it met that Iceberg.That glass would be very much unbreakable if you or I tried to punch someone through it but when someone who can juggle Volvo's tries its a different matter.
follow my logic:
adamantium is unbreakable: hence no one, not wolverine or even Thor could break it
a 5 year old kid cannot break a pencil...that does not make the pencil unbreakable
or else anything in the world is unbreakable, since someone probably can't break it
do you understand?
Originally posted by HerculesThis room held the an angry Hulk and Juggernaut at the same time!! you are not getting out, it is unbreakable. You put pre crisis superman in there and I bet he makes it look like a toy.
Something is only unbreakable until it gets broken, follow my logic here, people believed that The Titanic was unsinkable, till it met that Iceberg.That glass would be very much unbreakable if you or I tried to punch someone through it but when someone who can juggle Volvo's tries its a different matter.
Originally posted by masterbruceDid someone state the pencil was unbreakable?Was it reserached and common knowdlege that the pencil was unbreakable? Was it tested before?
follow my logic:adamantium is unbreakable: hence no one, not wolverine or even Thor could break it
a 5 year old kid cannot break a pencil...that does not make the pencil unbreakable
or else anything in the world is unbreakable, since someone probably can't break it
do you understand?
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
Obiously it is breakable if someone broke it, that isn't the point. Which is more impressive.1. That chain is easy to break.(guy breaks it)
2. That chain is unbreakable so don't worry, he won't get out. (Guy breaks it)Mastbruce logic: They both are the same 😱
If the chain is unbreakable, then you can't break it. If you can break it, then it isn't unbreakable and whoever said it was is wrong.
Let's say I tie you up with a thin strip of rubber band and say that it is unbreakable, yet you break it easily...does that make it impressive because I mistakenly thought it was unbreakable?
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
Go read the rest now.
so, was the chain that Wolverine broke tested? If so how?
For example, if they tied up a regular human and he couldn't break it, it would be silly to say it is unbreakable.
If they used it on Thor, and even he couldn't break it, then they would have more reason to say it was unbreakable.
Originally posted by masterbruceYou have trouble following points 🙄
If the chain is unbreakable, then you can't break it. If you can break it, then it isn't unbreakable and whoever said it was is wrong.Let's say I tie you up with a thin strip of rubber band and say that it is unbreakable, yet you break it easily...does that make it impressive because I mistakenly thought it was unbreakable?
As for the Shark thing, look where Logan lifted it up. he didn't go grab around the heavy part, he grabbed it from the tail and all the weight is greater from that angle. You could test it out on real world stuff and see if it is heavier grabbing the whole of something or doe sit require more strength by grabbing the lighter part and lifting everything from there.
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
You have trouble following points 🙄As for the Shark thing, look where Logan lifted it up. he didn't go grab around the heavy part, he grabbed it from the tail and all the weight is greater from that angle. You could test it out on real world stuff and see if it is heavier grabbing the whole of something or doe sit require more strength by grabbing the lighter part and lifting everything from there.
explain how I didn't follow your point. I think you have trouble with common logic.
Also, I have no issue about the shark. I completely accept it as a feat.
Originally posted by crimsonphoenixUmm... I don't argue against Wolverine, using real world logic, I don't even go in that many Wolverine threads.
You say this but yet argue real world logic and other stuff like that against wolverine in some threads and say stuff.If you don't want real world logic then it should be said that people liek cap and Batman as peak humans and Wolverine as enhanced meta w/e could take on people in Spidermans range and not get their heads smacked off with one punch because that may be the case in the real world but it is a comic.
And yet, that very same thing about peak human, and stuff happens in comics too...
Midnighter was kicking people's heads off.
Also, yes, that should happen, but that is not the same as what I'm saying either.
I'm not against real world logic, I just find that it isn't a good souce to use to find the weight of something.
Don't things in comics weigh differently than in the real world?
Originally posted by masterbruceI could play these mind games with any character.
so, was the chain that Wolverine broke tested? If so how?For example, if they tied up a regular human and he couldn't break it, it would be silly to say it is unbreakable.
If they used it on Thor, and even he couldn't break it, then they would have more reason to say it was unbreakable.
"Spiderman lifts a car"
Masterbruce: the car isn't real world cars and where does it say it is heavy and made out of other material, I saw capt pic up a vehcile before, same thing unles syou show me where it states the weight and where he got the car.
The car capt picke dup could be plastic but you would say that show me how the plastic wasn't heavier than Spidermans car.
Go ahead, point out like 10 scans of spiderman being superhuman and I will nag you to death on BS all day long. 🙄
Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
I could play these mind games with any character."Spiderman lifts a car"
Masterbruce: the car isn't real world cars and where does it say it is heavy and made out of other material, I saw capt pic up a vehcile before, same thing unles syou show me where it states the weight and where he got the car.
The car capt picke dup could be plastic but you would say that show me how the plastic wasn't heavier than Spidermans car.
Go ahead, point out like 10 scans of spiderman being superhuman and I will nag you to death on BS all day long. 🙄
What the hell are you talking about?
Umm...I never said a car in comics and a car in real world weight differently, that was Big Bran.
Originally posted by bigbranHow much does the Blob weigh?
Umm... I don't argue against Wolverine, using real world logic, I don't even go in that many Wolverine threads.And yet, that very same thing about peak human, and stuff happens in comics too...
Midnighter was kicking people's heads off.
Also, yes, that should happen, but that is not the same as what I'm saying either.I'm not against real world logic, I just find that it isn't a good souce to use to find the weight of something.
Don't things in comics weigh differently than in the real world?