Darkseid vs. Thanos

Started by Hazsekswthurmom141 pages

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
We. Pull. Planet. Really? This isn't proof enough? Sigh.

There is more evidence pointing to GL helping pull the planet than there is that states that Superman did it solo. Dialogue from both characters point out to a sharing of the task and you have to provide PROOF if you want to disprove this.

I stated that the feat is QUESTIONABLE due to the nature of how the feat was portrayed and I'm right.

Well, it looks like you and I have different ways of "interpreting" reality/circumstances. I happen to believe yours is pretty biased as I can actually point out some evidence while you cannot.

It doesn't matter that much to me anyways, whether Hal is assisting are not, there's still a good chance that Superman still pulled the force of the earth, due to the Starbreaker factor.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
It doesn't matter that much to me anyways, whether Hal is assisting are not, there's still a good chance that Superman still pulled the force of the earth, due to the Starbreaker factor.

You would want to think that, sadly the amount of force Starbreaker was applying wasn't really mentioned and is thus unquantifable.

All things considering, the feat is questionable at best (and thus not conclusive evidence for Superman's strength level).

Just to add, tho. I DO believe that Superman has planetary-level strength (like most HHs). I just hate it when ppl try and pass off questionable examples as viable feats.

Guys, are you going to get back on topic, or do i need to close this?

Can we please put an end to this fallacy about seeing the true DS in FC and how he was some kinda of multiversal power. He was nothing of the sort.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
This is exactly what I figured. The evidence you provided is to subjective, obviously Lantern is providing assistance by creating the construct......in that sense yes, GL is helping Superman move the planet. But as far as actually being a secondary force pulling the planet it's the evidence is not blatant enough. "The add your power to mine" line seems more like a reference to the actual construct. What leads me to believe so, is GL specifically created a harness for Supes to pull.

And H1a8 didn't really lose that badly.....from what I can understand, he's made alot shitty post that hurt his credibility, that just happened to be an argument he couldn't win due to his reputation.

Regardless, this shit isn't relevant to the point I was making earlier.

Lol. Ignoring on panel evidence? Even Batman says GL and Supernan are doing everything they can.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, are you going to get back on topic, or do i need to close this?

Closed, since it has Thanos in it. 😄

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lol. Ignoring on panel evidence? Even Batman says GL and Supernan are doing everything they can.

Yeah, they are combined pulling the planet.

But, of course, they are pulling it against an evolved Sun-Eater's full energy, enough to easily fling the planet into the sun, power gained from countless dead stars in the past. So it's still goin to be more impressive than just moving a planet on ones how.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You would want to think that, sadly the amount of force Starbreaker was applying wasn't really mentioned and is thus unquantifable.

All things considering, the feat is questionable at best (and thus not conclusive evidence for Superman's strength level).

Just to add, tho. I DO believe that Superman has planetary-level strength (like most HHs). I just hate it when ppl try and pass off questionable examples as viable feats.

How is it not viable or 'questionable'? The facts are clear -- the fact that we weren't given quantifiable numbers for the amount of force being exerted on the planet doesn't change the validity of the feat, or our ability to estimate -- it was enough to quickly fling the entire planet into the sun. That is huge, and nitpicking aside, insane.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lol. Ignoring on panel evidence? Even Batman says GL and Supernan are doing everything they can.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
It doesn't matter that much to me anyways, whether Hal is assisting are not, there's still a good chance that Superman still pulled the force of the earth, due to the Starbreaker factor.
.......go away.

Thanos should win this fight.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
A Kratos wannabe can. 🙂 And I love how you evade my point. Orion was obviously altered by the Source. 😉
How he loos doesn't matter in the least. Drax was created to do so whereas Orion was portrayed as being alive in countdown and at his best. Orion had the power to do so he wasn't seid's silver bullet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How he loos doesn't matter in the least. Drax was created to do so whereas Orion was portrayed as being alive in countdown and at his best. Orion had the power to do so he wasn't seid's silver bullet.
Yes he was.Orion was DS's silver bullet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How he loos doesn't matter in the least. Drax was created to do so whereas Orion was portrayed as being alive in countdown and at his best. Orion had the power to do so he wasn't seid's silver bullet.
Orion was born to kill Darkseid.........stop reaching, the nature of Drax and Orion is practically the same. Answer me this, why could Orion kill Darkseid then after being resurrected by the source, when theres numerous instances in the past of Ds humbling and beating him?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Orion was born to kill Darkseid.........stop reaching, the nature of Drax and Orion is practically the same. Answer me this, why could Orion kill Darkseid then after being resurrected by the source, when theres numerous instances in the past of Ds humbling and beating him?
No, he wasn't he was destined but Darkseid already let that play out so it's a moot point.

Same as any fight that goes another way. Just because the pats beat the colts 5 times doesn't mean they beat them the sixth time. Accept reality you want to dismiss every showing you don't like.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes he was.Orion was DS's silver bullet.
Never. Thanos was described as this Orion was never created to kill darkseid or ever described as his silver bullet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you're in denial and are actually saying a strength feat shouldn't count for the Hulk. The sheer lunacy in dismissing a strength feat for the posterchild for meatheads.
So Base Grey Hulk>Superman?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
So Base Grey Hulk>Superman?
His feat is more impressive than most of Superman's but I never base my opinion on feats alone. My arguments all make sense and all add up unlike yours where you dismiss this and dismiss that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]No, he wasn't he was destined but Darkseid already let that play out so it's a moot point.
What are you talking about? What you said basically contradicts the point of a "destiny". It was Orion's ultimate purpose in life to kill Ds.....period.

Same as any fight that goes another way. Just because the pats beat the colts 5 times doesn't mean they beat them the sixth time. Accept reality you want to dismiss every showing you don't like.
You can't apply that logic to that feat......you still fail to acknowledge the fact that the Source instructed Orion to kill him

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
What are you talking about? What you said basically contradicts the point of a "destiny". It was Orion's ultimate purpose in life to kill Ds.....period.

You can't apply that logic to that feat......you still fail to acknowledge the fact that the Source instructed Orion to kill him

Which he already did. Period. His destiny was already fulfilled so it's a moot point.

So what the Source sent Orion after him and he could think and reason on his own. It was Orion who did it. It's like saying Kronos sent Drax after Thanos. The rest is up to Drax and Orion they didn't have any help.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His feat is more impressive than most of Superman's but I never base my opinion on feats alone. My arguments all make sense and all add up unlike yours where you dismiss this and dismiss that.
Orly? So that's why using that one feat aswell as silly abc logic, to overhype Thanos? Your the one that brought it up buddy. 🙂 You fail to understand that feat only in no way represents the true extent of Grey Hulks power. He's always depicted as Thing level at his base. And you didn't really answer my question does that feat make Superman<Grey Hulk? It's a simple yes or no question.