Is it even worth getting married anymore?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you and your wife said "We're getting married.", and it was a simple as a man simply saying "You're man and wife.", or less, this would have an effect equal to the day that most weddings are seen as? No, why? Because it's the ceremony, the pomp and pageantry of it all that creates the emotion, the emotional connection that YOU make with the events.

It's not the contract nor legality adding anything. That's what you fail to understand. If you could go into a store and buy legal marriage, it wouldn't be the same as having a ceremony, because the act itself doesn't cause the emotion. You don't stand there thinking; "This is beautiful! I'm being legally binded, by contract, to a loved one!". Legality doesn't enter into why you're happy.

-AC

I can't say, for some people merely making the commitment of "we're binding ourselves" could have the same affect as a 10 hour ceremony with elephants, acrobats and fireworks or it could do absolutely nothing; I simply cannot speak for others emotions.

I never said the mere fact that two people are legally bonded had a direct affect on emotions; I said the physical act of marriage could have; i.e. physical acts can affect emotion.

You know, we've completely gone off-topic, the topic was "is it worth getting married anymore" and quite simply; it is. If (and only if) you intend on living with someone the rest of your life and especially if you intend on having kids, marriage would only serve as a plus due to certain rights and privileges that a marriage gives you. It doesn't mean two life-mates need to get married, but the benefits do make it worthwhile.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
1) You're the one who took offense, not I.

What the hell has that got to do with anything? My first point said nothing about taking offense. You accused me of never posting without bringing up being gay. That was not even mentioned, until you mentioned it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
2) Tool inspired decorated headgear? It's called a beanie hat and I think you'll find the world's populace enjoying said garment as much as me. The fact that the style of the picture was similar has nothing to do with the clothing and/or sexuality. Besides all that, don't get your panties in a bunch by telling me I'm full of piss and vinegar when you're the one sitting there, posting to me in a flurry of hilarious annoyance because I made a humour-tinged homosexual remark. You know I don't have a problem with homosexuality, but if you feel you're exempt from homosexual jokes, you're mistaken.

Your post stinks of insecurity. Maybe that's why you don't come into the music forum anymore. Since your opinion isn't actually equal, in terms of knowledge. You tried speaking about things you didn't know about and myself and a few others send you packing. For someone who isn't trying to be like Elton John, you sure throw a hell of a lot of tantrums too.

And you'll find I'm not talking about a beanie or a toboggan(if you're from the American south) I'm talking about posting a picture of my head covered by some mask because a member of tool wore one. How cool! He's so somber he plays the guitar in a ski mask! How needlessly dramatic. Posting a picture of myself dressed as Elton John and being an overly opinionated jack ass to everyone who expresses an opposing opinion to mine is no way to prove I'm right in all things.

Oh, and thanks for clearing up the fact that I am not exempt from gay jokes. I've never said I was, but I'm sure now that you've heard yourself say it the whole world can flood the board with gay jokes. You need to try and figure out what is and is not a "flurry of homosexual temper tantrums". I'm just telling you what I think. If that equates to a homosexual temper tantrum in your mind because all you know about me is that I'm gay...you run with that.

What? You schooled me so hard in th emusic forum that I ran from teh forum screaming? How often did I post before our argument about Tool being the greatest band in history? I don't go in the music forum because it's not very interesting. Maybe that's because it's mostly you bullying people with your opinion? Maybe it's because I don't need to go on a music forum to bully everyone on it to be secure about my musical preference. I'll leave that up to you.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The fact that the style of the picture was similar has nothing to do with the clothing and/or sexuality.

I'm not sure I said it had anything to do with sexuality. But, posting a picture of the guy from tool wearing it with a picture of myself wouldn't make it much of a coincidence, would it? It's too bad that the members photo album is gone, or we could clear this all up.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
3) Does that change the fact that he is gay, and he is in your avatar? No. You said I shouldn't remind people you are gay. My point being that you do so more than I did in the single post.

Does it change the fact that he's gay? No. But the reason he's my avatar is not because he's gay. I'm sure you think that because you have said that he's my avartar because he's gay, you'll consider that fact. But, just because you said it, doesn't make it right. My avatars have included Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker or different pictures of Magneto or pictures of myself. Did I use them because they're gay? No, I used them because they're characters I like.

I didn't say you shouldn't remind people. I said you don't have to.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So I propose that you take your over-reactive, knee-jerk view of me and what I believe or what my attitude is (Which is hilariously off-point and ridiculous), and grow up yourself, because you're acting like an angry little kid who has had his rattle taken away, which is precisely what you're popping off at me for.

If you wish to discuss me or my attitude further, my PM box is open. Until then, don't address me nor my attitude until you can either A) Back up yours or B) Take down mine.

Ta ta.

-AC

So, you're going to end a response post with the same advice I gave you? You're telling me to grow up? Can't your profound sense of self importance and endless mental well of wit and poignancy come up with something original? "I'm acting like a kid who's had his rattle taken away?" How so? In what way did we clash? In what way has your ego been deflated?

You'll find no anger in my post. You'll find my opinion in my post. I don't need to "take your attitude down". What kind of a bullshit challenge is that? Are we going to meet outside the OK corral at high noon? As for backing up my own opinion, I kind of don't have to, that's what makes it my opinion. If I decided to state it as absolute fact, then I'd have to back it up. But, look at me preaching to the choir.

Stop throwing a tantrum, you big baby.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What the hell has that got to do with anything? My first point said nothing about taking offense. You accused me of never posting without bringing up being gay. That was not even mentioned, until you mentioned it.

Excuse me? I said you never post without somehow reminding people (or at least me) that you are gay. I never said you continually say it, I said your posts are always a reminder for a few reasons.

Don't accuse me of shit I didn't say.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
And you'll find I'm not talking about a beanie or a toboggan(if you're from the American south) I'm talking about posting a picture of my head covered by some mask because a member of tool wore one. How cool! He's so somber he plays the guitar in a ski mask! How needlessly dramatic. Posting a picture of myself dressed as Elton John and being an overly opinionated jack ass to everyone who expresses an opposing opinion to mine is no way to prove I'm right in all things.

A) It was a scarf.

B) It was the vocalist, not the guitarist.

C) I did it for no other reason than because I could and I like the original picture. It has nothing to do with being sombre.

D) I wasn't dressed as him, I simply took a similar picture.

E) I gave you more credit than to resort to the very tired, very pathetic retort of "You're an overly opinionated jack ass who thinks he's always right.". I think you're a tantrum throwing drama queen who hates being shown up, denies being shown up, then gets shown up when he's making something out of nothing, like you are now. Cos you're an idiot.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh, and thanks for clearing up the fact that I am not exempt from gay jokes. I've never said I was, but I'm sure now that you've heard yourself say it the whole world can flood the board with gay jokes. You need to try and figure out what is and is not a "flurry of homosexual temper tantrums". I'm just telling you what I think. If that equates to a homosexual temper tantrum in your mind because all you know about me is that I'm gay...you run with that.

Somehow you know about me enough to comment on how I feel, my attitude, my beliefs and what I mean in my posts, but there's no way I can know the same? I don't know you, you don't know me, you silly hypocrite. I was joking when I made the tantrum remark, but what do you do? You reply with a temper tantrum.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not sure I said it had anything to do with sexuality. But, posting a picture of the guy from tool wearing it with a picture of myself wouldn't make it much of a coincidence, would it? It's too bad that the members photo album is gone, or we could clear this all up.

Clear what up? I posted the picture because I was ashamed of it? What are you trying to achieve? I posted the picture, far from being serious, because I liked it and because I could. That was as far as it went for me.

It wasn't because he was in Tool, it wasn't because I wanted to dress like him, it was because I liked the picture and decided that I wanted to recreate it. You're clutching at straws by trying to nail home a non-existent point. Yes, I did that. How does that prove anything at all? You're being rabidly insecure on levels I simply do not understand, then have the nerve to say "It's nothing to do with me being gay.". Who said it was? I made a joke, now you're throwing a fit.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Does it change the fact that he's gay? No. But the reason he's my avatar is not because he's gay. I'm sure you think that because you have said that he's my avartar because he's gay, you'll consider that fact. But, just because you said it, doesn't make it right. My avatars have included Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker or different pictures of Magneto or pictures of myself. Did I use them because they're gay? No, I used them because they're characters I like.

I never said you had it there because he was gay. I said you have a gay actor in your avatar, which you do. I said that whenever we discuss music, you bring up Elton John, who is also gay. Whether or not you do it because they are gay is of no concern to me, the fact that they are and the fact that you are is what serves as a reminder, to me, that you are gay. You are the one who got up in arms about it rather than asking me what I meant, when you previously had the nerve to say "You lose points for not understanding my joke.".

I'd hope nobody has a problem with you being gay, you publically admit on this site that you are gay. So why are you trying to stop me thinking of you as a gay man who, coincidentally or not, likes other gay men in mediums of art? You do, and I do. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I didn't say you shouldn't remind people. I said you don't have to.

I'm not reminding people. What's the point you're trying to make? You're an odd man. "Don't remind people that I'm gay, but I'm not ashamed to be gay, but I'm not reminding people...but.", just f*cking relax. Jesus christ.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, you're going to end a response post with the same advice I gave you? You're telling me to grow up? Can't your profound sense of self importance and endless mental well of wit and poignancy come up with something original? "I'm acting like a kid who's had his rattle taken away?" How so? In what way did we clash? In what way has your ego been deflated?

My ego hasn't been deflated, I'm flattered that I got under your skin so easily. Not nearly so much as I'm confused as to how I did, but flattered.

I find it hilarous and rather sad that you will sit there making such a fuss over something you simply couldn't handle.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You'll find no anger in my post. You'll find my opinion in my post. I don't need to "take your attitude down". What kind of a bullshit challenge is that? Are we going to meet outside the OK corral at high noon? As for backing up my own opinion, I kind of don't have to, that's what makes it my [B]opinion. If I decided to state it as absolute fact, then I'd have to back it up. But, look at me preaching to the choir. [/B]

If I state something as a fact, I prove it to be a fact. If it's not a fact, I don't state it as such.

Your post stinks of insecurity, and quite frankly you should be ashamed at how you've acted.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
1) You're the one who took offense, not I.

2) Tool inspired decorated headgear? It's called a beanie hat and I think you'll find the world's populace enjoying said garment as much as me. The fact that the style of the picture was similar has nothing to do with the clothing and/or sexuality. Besides all that, don't get your panties in a bunch by telling me I'm full of piss and vinegar when you're the one sitting there, posting to me in a flurry of hilarious annoyance because I made a humour-tinged homosexual remark. You know I don't have a problem with homosexuality, but if you feel you're exempt from homosexual jokes, you're mistaken.

Your post stinks of insecurity. Maybe that's why you don't come into the music forum anymore. Since your opinion isn't actually equal, in terms of knowledge. You tried speaking about things you didn't know about and myself and a few others send you packing. For someone who isn't trying to be like Elton John, you sure throw a hell of a lot of tantrums too.

3) Does that change the fact that he is gay, and he is in your avatar? No. You said I shouldn't remind people you are gay. My point being that you do so more than I did in the single post.

So I propose that you take your over-reactive, knee-jerk view of me and what I believe or what my attitude is (Which is hilariously off-point and ridiculous), and grow up yourself, because you're acting like an angry little kid who has had his rattle taken away, which is precisely what you're popping off at me for.

If you wish to discuss me or my attitude further, my PM box is open. Until then, don't address me nor my attitude until you can either A) Back up yours or B) Take down mine.

Ta ta.

-AC

[list=1][*]Whether or not he took offense to your post is irrelevant. You stated, “. . . you can’t seem to post without somehow reminding us that you are a homosexual,” yet, it is not he who “remind[ed] us that [he] is . . . a homosexual,” it is you.

[*]The sexual orientation of Sir Elton John is incidental to the appreciation of Capt_Fantastic for Sir Elton John as a musical artist:

Sir Elton John is a child prodigy. He began playing the piano at the age of three, and was attending the Royal Academy of Music on a full scholarship by the age of eleven. In his 50-year musical career, he has sold over 250 million albums, and has over 50 top 40 hits, making him one of the most successful musicians of all time. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1994, and in 2004, was listed as one of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time according to “Rolling Stone” magazine.

Moreover, in their 16-year career, not a single member of Tool, or the band as a whole, has proved to be as talented and successful as Sir Elton John. Keep that in mind when indignantly and righteously proclaiming which opinions to be knowledgeable and sound with regard to music appreciation and in the Music Discussion Forum.

[*]The sexual orientation of Sir Ian McKellen is incidental to the appreciation of Capt_Fantastic for the character of Magneto. In his time on KMC, Capt_Fantastic has had a number of Magneto avatars and signatures, only recently featuring the version of the character popularized by Sir Ian McKellen in the “X-Men” films.[/list]

That you associate his favorite comic book character and musical artist to his sexual orientation when he does not speaks more about your attitude with regard to his sexual orientation than his.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[list=1][*]Whether or not he took offense to your post is irrelevant. You stated, “. . . you can’t seem to post without somehow reminding us that you are a homosexual,” yet, it is not he who “remind[ed] us that [he] is . . . a homosexual,” it is you.

Yeah, somehow reminding us. Did I explicitly say that he runs around screaming it, or that it was a negative? No. I merely said that his posts are a reminder to me (and others possibly) that he is gay.

I don't care that he's gay.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The sexual orientation of Sir Elton John is incidental to the appreciation of Capt_Fantastic for Sir Elton John as a musical artist

Yes, and what's your point? Read my above post.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Sir Elton John is a child prodigy. He began playing the piano at the age of three, and was attending the Royal Academy of Music on a full scholarship by the age of eleven. In his 50-year musical career, he has sold over 250 million albums, and has over 50 top 40 hits, making him one of the most successful musicians of all time. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1994, and in 2004, was listed as one of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time according to “Rolling Stone” magazine.

Don't say someone is a better musician because they sell a lot of records and get lots of praise. By that crummy rationale, 50 Cent is better than most bands.

If you want to debate music, come to the MuDF.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Moreover, in their 16-year career, not a single member of Tool, or the band as a whole, has proved to be as talented and successful as Sir Elton John. Keep that in mind when indignantly and righteously proclaiming which opinions to be knowledgeable and sound with regard to music appreciation and in the Music Discussion Forum.

Danny Carey, comparitively, is a better musician than Elton John. Maynard has a better and more powerful vocal range, the list goes on.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[The sexual orientation of Sir Ian McKellen is incidental to the appreciation of Capt_Fantastic for the character of Magneto. In his time on KMC, Capt_Fantastic has had a number of Magneto avatars and signatures, only recently featuring the version of the character popularized by Sir Ian McKellen in the “X-Men” films.

So? Again, read my post above. It's incidental? Fine. That doesn't mean that McKellen being gay, being someone Capt (A gay man) likes, and being in his avatar cannot remind me that Capt is gay.

Stop being so defensive.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That you associate his favorite comic book character and musical artist to his sexual orientation when he does not speaks more about your attitude with regard to his sexual orientation than his.

I never once said he liked them because they were gay.

So, you two can go away, read my posts, read the large one I posted before this, and then realise that you don't have to be upset or frustrated. Ok? Ok good. You run along and do that now.

-AC

i sense much darkness here.

That would be Adam_PoE.

He would have beaten Skeletor (Me), but Skeletor made a vague remark that Adam misintepreted, thus storming off leaving KMC's version of Eternia in ruins, while ranting incoherently with a baseless argument based on nothing.

-AC

Eternia....he man, right?

Yeah. Adam; Prince of Eternia etc.

-AC

i never cared for he man. i was more into thundercats and speed racer.

Anyway, how many people here actually want to marry?

Out of curiousity.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyway, how many people here actually want to marry?

Out of curiousity.

-AC

Are you just sitting there waiting for me to respond?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Stop throwing a tantrum, you big baby.

Repeating yourself doesn't make you right.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Excuse me? I said you never post without somehow reminding people (or at least me) that you are gay. I never said you continually say it, I said your posts are always a reminder for a few reasons.

Don't accuse me of shit I didn't say.

I shouldn't accuse you of saying something you didn't say when you've just said it again? Where is the logic in that?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) It was a scarf.

It was silly.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
B) It was the vocalist, not the guitarist.

Oh, that's so much better. Now you have a guy standing on stage singing with a scarf wrapped around his head? And you want to emulate that?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
C) I did it for no other reason than because I could and I like the original picture. It has nothing to do with being sombre.

Again, that's not my point. If I posted a picture of myself wearing a feater boa and outrageous sunglasses, you'd say that I was trying to remind everyone I'm gay. Just because I can do it, doesn't mean I have to do it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
D) I wasn't dressed as him, I simply took a similar picture.

What you were wearing from the neck down was never mentioned.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
E) I gave you more credit than to resort to the very tired, very pathetic retort of "You're an overly opinionated jack ass who thinks he's always right.". I think you're a tantrum throwing drama queen who hates being shown up, denies being shown up, then gets shown up when he's making something out of nothing, like you are now. Cos you're an idiot.

If it's "very tired", then I take it I'm not the only one who has pointed it out to you. Calling me a drama queen based on the fact that I'm gay means you're the one who thinks more about my sexuality than I do. Once again, when did you show me up?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Somehow you know about me enough to comment on how I feel, my attitude, my beliefs and what I mean in my posts, but there's no way I can know the same? I don't know you, you don't know me, you silly hypocrite. I was joking when I made the tantrum remark, but what do you do? You reply with a temper tantrum.

Again, repeating yourself doesn't make you right. I never addressed your "beliefs".

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Clear what up? I posted the picture because I was ashamed of it? What are you trying to achieve? I posted the picture, far from being serious, because I liked it and because I could. That was as far as it went for me.

It wasn't because he was in Tool, it wasn't because I wanted to dress like him, it was because I liked the picture and decided that I wanted to recreate it. You're clutching at straws by trying to nail home a non-existent point. Yes, I did that. How does that prove anything at all? You're being rabidly insecure on levels I simply do not understand, then have the nerve to say "It's nothing to do with me being gay.". Who said it was? I made a joke, now you're throwing a fit.

That wasn't the point of bringing it up. The point was that you stated that I can't post without the topic being my sexuality or my appreciation for elton John. All I said was that I'm not the one dressing up as my favorite musical artist and posting pictures of myself.

You call me an idiot, but you can't understand the difference between being "rabidly insecure" and defending my statement?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I never said you had it there because he was gay. I said you have a gay actor in your avatar, which you do. I said that whenever we discuss music, you bring up Elton John, who is also gay. Whether or not you do it because they are gay is of no concern to me, the fact that they are and the fact that you are is what serves as a reminder, to me, that you are gay. You are the one who got up in arms about it rather than asking me what I meant, when you previously had the nerve to say "You lose points for not understanding my joke.".

"Whenever we talk about music"? There's a music forum here on KMC, which we've both said I rarely post in. So, how often do I bring up Elton John?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'd hope nobody has a problem with you being gay, you publically admit on this site that you are gay. So why are you trying to stop me thinking of you as a gay man who, coincidentally or not, likes other gay men in mediums of art? You do, and I do. Deal with it..

Deal with what? You think I have a persecution complex?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not reminding people. What's the point you're trying to make? You're an odd man. "Don't remind people that I'm gay, but I'm not ashamed to be gay, but I'm not reminding people...but.", just f*cking relax. Jesus christ..

Is that what was said? No. I said you don't have to remind people, they know. I never said "don't remind people". Surely someone as well versed in ...everything...as you present yourself to be, know the difference between "don't" and "you don't have to".

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
My ego hasn't been deflated, I'm flattered that I got under your skin so easily. Not nearly so much as I'm confused as to how I did, but flattered.

I find it hilarous and rather sad that you will sit there making such a fuss over something you simply couldn't handle.

I believe I said your ego hasn't been deflated. No one is trying to effect your ego.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If I state something as a fact, I prove it to be a fact. If it's not a fact, I don't state it as such.

Your post stinks of insecurity, and quite frankly you should be ashamed at how you've acted.

-AC

This is the fourth or fifth time you've mentioned insecurity. Are you sure it's my insecurity you're addressing?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Are you just sitting there waiting for me to respond?

Repeating yourself doesn't make you right.

I shouldn't accuse you of saying something you didn't say when you've just said it again? Where is the logic in that?

It was silly.

Oh, that's so much better. Now you have a guy standing on stage singing with a scarf wrapped around his head? And you want to emulate that?

Again, that's not my point. If I posted a picture of myself wearing a feater boa and outrageous sunglasses, you'd say that I was trying to remind everyone I'm gay. Just because I [b]can do it, doesn't mean I have to do it.

What you were wearing from the neck down was never mentioned.

If it's "very tired", then I take it I'm not the only one who has pointed it out to you. Calling me a drama queen based on the fact that I'm gay means you're the one who thinks more about my sexuality than I do. Once again, when did you show me up?

Again, repeating yourself doesn't make you right. I never addressed your "beliefs".

That wasn't the point of bringing it up. The point was that you stated that I can't post without the topic being my sexuality or my appreciation for elton John. All I said was that I'm not the one dressing up as my favorite musical artist and posting pictures of myself.

You call me an idiot, but you can't understand the difference between being "rabidly insecure" and defending my statement?

"Whenever we talk about music"? There's a music forum here on KMC, which we've both said I rarely post in. So, how often do I bring up Elton John?

Deal with what? You think I have a persecution complex?

Is that what was said? No. I said you don't have to remind people, they know. I never said "don't remind people". Surely someone as well versed in ...everything...as you present yourself to be, know the difference between "don't" and "you don't have to".

I believe I said your ego hasn't been deflated. No one is trying to effect your ego.

This is the fourth or fifth time you've mentioned insecurity. Are you sure it's my insecurity you're addressing? [/B]

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i think you are reading too much into it. maybe not.

I think he and I are both reading too much into it.

i think maybe you are right. i think we are all reading way too much into peoples posts here.

For the record, I like Elton John a lot and I think he's one of the world's most talented performers. 🙂

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Are you just sitting there waiting for me to respond?

No, you'll respond, as you just did, and so will I.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Repeating yourself doesn't make you right.

I know it doesn't, you are throwing one though. Comparing what I said to how you've reacted, yes.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I shouldn't accuse you of saying something you didn't say when you've just said it again? Where is the logic in that?

I never said it again. I said you somehow remind me that you are gay with every post, I didn't say that you SAY it, I said that SOMEHOW you remind me, which you do. Why is that negative? I don't dislike the fact that you are gay, you know I have nothing against it. I made a humerous gay remark, you said "You don't have to remind everyone.", and I merely said that you remind more than I do.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
It was silly.

So was your assumption that it was a ski mask, that I dressed up, that I...etc and all the other things you got wrong.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh, that's so much better. Now you have a guy standing on stage singing with a scarf wrapped around his head? And you want to emulate that?

He doesn't sing with a scarf wrapped around his head. He took one picture where his face was similarly obscured, I liked it, I had the means to recreate it, I just decided to. Why is this ANY concern of yours?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Again, that's not my point. If I posted a picture of myself wearing a feater boa and outrageous sunglasses, you'd say that I was trying to remind everyone I'm gay. Just because I [b]can do it, doesn't mean I have to do it.[/b]

I wouldn't say you're trying to, I'd say that you are. Whether you're trying to or not. If I forgot you were gay, and you posted that, I'd be reminded.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What you were wearing from the neck down was never mentioned.

Why is this even relevant?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If it's "very tired", then I take it I'm not the only one who has pointed it out to you. Calling me a drama queen based on the fact that I'm gay means you're the one who thinks more about my sexuality than I do. Once again, when did you show me up?

Oh for crying out loud. I called you a drama queen because it's a phrase that's applicable to you right now. I've called Rogue Jedi a drama queen before. YOU are the one making this about your sexuality, not me, not in a serious way.

People tell me it, and if that's their opinion, fine. You are telling me I think that, which isn't true.

You came into the music forum claiming things that weren't true. Both me and another member factually proved you incorrect. You were never seen in the music forum again.

"Mike Patton says explicitly that he's influenced by Elton John.", "He does? I've read every interview he's ever done, he's never said that. Can you show me?". You posted loads of links, none that I hadn't seen, and soon backed down because you spoke about shit you had no idea of. You go on about Elton John, acting like because you know a lot about him, it overrides the fact that you know shit all about most other people I've ever discussed with you, that's not the case, buddy. Then you have the hypocritical nerve to imply I have attraction to the man.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Again, repeating yourself doesn't make you right. I never addressed your "beliefs".

So it's even less relevant than I once thought.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
That wasn't the point of bringing it up. The point was that you stated that I can't post without the topic being my sexuality or my appreciation for elton John. All I said was that I'm not the one dressing up as my favorite musical artist and posting pictures of myself.

I didn't say that. I said that when you post you SOMEHOW remind me that you are gay, regardless of whether or not you say it. I ADDITIONALLY pointed out that whenever you discuss music, you ALWAYS (and often ONLY) mention Elton John, which also serves to remind me that you are gay. I didn't say you like him because you are gay, or that you always bring up your sexuality.

Secondly, I didn't dress up as him. You're clutching for a point, any point, to cover up the fact that this tireless display of idiocy is based on YOU twisting what I've said.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You call me an idiot, but you can't understand the difference between being "rabidly insecure" and defending my statement?

I can. You can't understand me saying your posts remind me that you're gay, and saying that you explicitly say it are two different things.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
There's a music forum here on KMC, which we've both said I rarely post in. So, how often do I bring up Elton John?

Whenever you have been in there to discuss music, which proves my previous point that whenever you do discuss music, it's about Elton John. Me saying that is not equal to me saying you like him cos he's gay. It's me saying that you are gay, he is gay, you like him, and that's why you referencing him every time we HAVE discussed music, is a reminder. Just like Ian McKellen coincidentally being a gay actor that you, a gay man, likes. You don't like him cos he's gay, but you being gay and him being gay is what reminds me.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Deal with what? You think I have a persecution complex?

I do now. In fact, how would you feel if I told you you did, just like you tell me I always think I'm right?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Is that what was said? No. I said you don't have to remind people, they know. I never said "don't remind people". Surely someone as well versed in ...everything...as you present yourself to be, know the difference between "don't" and "you don't have to".

I'm not versed in everything. Never claimed to be, never will.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I believe I said your ego hasn't been deflated. No one is trying to effect your ego.

Swell.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
This is the fourth or fifth time you've mentioned insecurity. Are you sure it's my insecurity you're addressing?

Very sure.

Do you have anything else you'd like to tell me I said? Perhaps blame me for the holocaust?

-AC

Originally posted by Robtard
For the record, I like Elton John a lot and I think he's one of the world's most talented performers. 🙂

The funny part is, I like Elton John also.

I'm sure they believe I don't.

-AC