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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You did not state that his posts inadvertently act as a reminder to others that he is a homosexual, but that he cannot post without reminding others that he is a homosexual:Would you like to do any more back peddling?
I said he can't post without reminding people, precisely. I said the correct thing. What YOU failed to do was ask for me to specify how he reminds me, or people. You didn't did you? You chose to assume that part. So once again, you're wrong. Bystanders have already said that my posts were simply being read into too much.
Accept that you got it wrong, because you factually did. It's a fact because I know what I meant, and what I meant isn't what you CLAIM I meant.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Read the above response.
Haha, you're still wrong. Nothing I said was incorrect. He does remind me that he's gay with every post. You simply failed to ask why, you assumed.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I did not state that he is a good musician because he sells a large number of albums, but that he sells a large number of albums because he is a good musician.
I agree, he's a good musician. Why do you feel you can ask me not to speak matter-of-factly about music and then make such a sweeping, generalising claim as saying Tool have never proven themselves to be better musicians? The correct thing you should say is "I have seen nothing that proves to me, that Tool are better musicians.".
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What is the objective criteria being used to make that determination? After you have identified it, by all means, list on.
Ability on one's instrument. If you transfered Elton John's piano talent to drums, he wouldn't be as good as Danny Carey.
Danny Carey has garnered more technical praise over the years for his innovative and technically flawless playing than Elton John has for his. Elton John is a very good pianist because he was trained, but he's not innovative by any means. He doesn't play in a way that didn't exist before and hasn't existed since. There are concert pianists better than Elton John. There are more people in his field better than him than there are drummers better than Danny Carey.
Danny Carey plays in such a way that no drummer ever did, has or probably will. Playing in a fibonnaci time signature? Yeah, I'm sure Elton could nail that one. Either way, I will open a thread in the Music Discussion forum and you can reply to this part of the post there.
Do you wish for me to do this? If, of course, this is something you wish to discuss. I mean, if you are going to keep coming back and dragging this thread off topic then at least do so in a manner that doesn't belong in entirely the wrong forum. I referenced a musician, but if you wish to discuss music, come to the Music Discussion forum and we'll continue this.
I trust you're not afraid to, so shall I open a thread or not?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Read my first response.
Yeah, you assumed and got it wrong. You're reading far too much into this, as previously noticed by other members.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I did not state that is the case. I stated that you making those associations when he does not is indicative of his sexual orientation being more of an issue to you than it is to him.
Indicative? Clearly he is, whether or not he is intentionally is another matter. You say he isn't, he says he isn't, fine, I never BELIEVED otherwise. I said he merely reminds me that he is gay with every post, not that he does so intentionally. YOU assumed that and now you're continuing because you simply cannot accept the fact that you read too much into it.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I did not “storm off.” I simply had more important things to do than to post on a message board intermittently over the course of six hours. I am sorry that you did not.
Consider the time difference. There was nothing to do anyway by the time I was posting. It takes me minutes to post, seconds sometimes. I'm still trying to figure out why you and Capt feel the need to somehow weave a personal, presumptuous dig into your posts, while out of the other side of your mouthes, accuse me of having to insult.
Either way, no, you clearly just came back hours later when the thread had moved on, when your friend had been proven wrong to the point of shame, and kick started the debate, didn't you? That's much better...
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Moreover, even if we presume that you made a vague statement and that I misinterpreted it, who is the one who is foolish; the one who draws a false conclusion based on ambiguous premises, or the one who fails to properly structure his premises with respect to accent and amphiboly so that they will not be misinterpreted?
The one who misinterprets. I knew what I meant, it was obvious what I mean considering the fact that I explicitly said I DON'T think he goes around saying it. So, the fact that I said he doesn't say it proves that I don't believe he is intentionally indicative of his sexuality, as you insist I believed he was, and have since proven you wrong.
So who's the bigger fool? The fool who is wrong, so blatantly, and admits it, or the one who, despite overwhelming proof, explanation and evidence, does not concede that he is wrong?
Just look at what's happening; He posts, I reply and prove him wrong, prove he misintepreted me, so he launches a tirade of insulting and dramatic posts. You post, misinterpret AGAIN and I confirm that you were wrong to do so, and wrong IN doing so.
That's what happened, Adam. You misinterpreted my post. Whether you believe it's my fault for being too vague, or whatever, you misintepreted it one way or the other. That's why we're here. Why you can't just accept you made a mistake and move on is beyond me.
-AC