The Current UN vs. The Classic Beyonder.

The UN WIped out the Multiverse and every Single THING in it and reset it. The Classic Beyonder Killed Death or some version of her. Maybe even Multideath. But he used up a vast portion of his power to do so and couldn't kill anything unless they were willing to die. The Un wiped everything and reset it. So which is more powerful?

actually no matter how much I hate beyonder the UN wouldn't kill him, the UN can erase and create a Multiverse which is very impressive but Beyonder is said to have the power of a thousends ore so multiverses sorry nvrbeenwthagirl don't think the UN will make it.

Originally posted by Utrigita
actually no matter how much I hate beyonder the UN wouldn't kill him, the UN can erase and create a Multiverse which is very impressive but Beyonder is said to have the power of a thousends ore so multiverses sorry nvrbeenwthagirl don't think the UN will make it.

OK if the beyonder had all this power, how come the UN could do so much more than the beyonder. THe beyonder used most of his power killing death. Let's say she was multiDeath. Multideath would be equal to multi eternity right? Well, the UN had no problem erasin and fixing multieternity like it was nothing. But the beyonder couldn't kill anything after he killed death. He had to kill someone who was "WILLING" to die.

hmmm i also remember the beyonder giving phoenix(rachel) enough of his power to kill him,she chooses not to kill him,and instead shows him the connection the phoenix has to life,and he was floored by it?
Should a being who is that powerfull be able to
1)give enough of his power to to someone else to kill him?
2) should the backlash of emotions and lfe experiences really floor the beyonder?
my point is he is not infallible

So the destructive power of the UN versus the Beyonder,i really would not have made a thread like this,the UN is not sentient but i will check the appropriete respect threads and respond

Originally posted by starlock
hmmm i also remember the beyonder giving phoenix(rachel) enough of his power to kill him,she chooses not to kill him,and instead shows him the connection the phoenix has to life,and he was floored by it?
Should a being who is that powerfull be able to
1)give enough of his power to to someone else to kill him?
2) should the backlash of emotions and lfe experiences really floor the beyonder?
my point is he is not infallible

So the destructive power of the UN versus the Beyonder,i really would not have made a thread like this,the UN is not sentient but i will check the appropriete respect threads and respond

NOt just the destructive power, but the creating power. The Marvel Multiverse is much more powerful and Larger than when the beyonder was around.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The UN WIped out the Multiverse and every Single THING in it and reset it. The Classic Beyonder Killed Death or some version of her. Maybe even Multideath. But he used up a vast portion of his power to do so and couldn't kill anything unless they were willing to die. The Un wiped everything and reset it. So which is more powerful?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OK if the beyonder had all this power, how come the UN could do so much more than the beyonder. THe beyonder used most of his power killing death. Let's say she was multiDeath. Multideath would be equal to multi eternity right? Well, the UN had no problem erasin and fixing multieternity like it was nothing. But the beyonder couldn't kill anything after he killed death. He had to kill someone who was "WILLING" to die.

Still you will put pre retcon beyonder at the same level as LT rougly, And the IG is below some would say equel to LT, but the UN didn't hurt the wielder of the uncomplete IG, that said LT is in my eyes above the IG and so is Beyonder, so I cannot really see how the UN is supposed to kill a being near/around/above LT level.

Originally posted by Supreme being
😗 What the same UN that got deflected by the IG, no it wouldnt work on the beyonder.

NOt the same UN. The Un you are referring to was said on panel by quasar to posses the destructive power over a universe. This is from a beign with cosmic senses. SO quasar would know how much energy the weapon was wielding. THe Current UN was used by Reed and destroyed THE MULTIVERSE AND THEN RECREATED IT. Not the same at all. USe your logic.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Still you will put pre retcon beyonder at the same level as LT rougly, And the IG is below some would say equel to LT, but the UN didn't hurt the wielder of the uncomplete IG, that said LT is in my eyes above the IG and so is Beyonder, so I cannot really see how the UN is supposed to kill a being near/around/above LT level.

The Beyonder is no where near the current LT. the current lt can destroy and shap megaverses. The classic beyonder could barely kill Death. They are no where near. And the IG did NOT stop the Current UN. only the classic one. Quasar said on panel how much energy the UN was wielding at the time. Universal destruction. NOT MULTIVERSAL.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOt the same UN. The Un you are referring to was said on panel by quasar to posses the destructive power over a universe. This is from a beign with cosmic senses. SO quasar would know how much energy the weapon was wielding. THe Current UN was used by Reed and destroyed THE multi-verse AND THEN RECREATED IT. Not the same at all. USe your logic.

In reference to a universe and multi-verse in terms of comic dialogue things are a bit screwy therefore i still say this is the say UN and the Beyonder wins.

Originally posted by Utrigita
actually no matter how much I hate beyonder the UN wouldn't kill him, the UN can erase and create a Multiverse which is very impressive but Beyonder is said to have the power of a thousends ore so multiverses sorry nvrbeenwthagirl don't think the UN will make it.

hey there,is not said that Sentry is supposed to have the power of a millon exploding suns?
we would still compare feats and such if he was in a versus match against supes or somebody in his class,
but A MILLION EXPLODING SUNS 😱

Sentry should be up there with galactus and friends

Seriuosly i am going to check the respect threads

Originally posted by Supreme being
In reference to a universe and multi-verse in terms of comic dialogue things are a bit screwy therefore i still say this is the say UN and the Beyonder wins.

The beyonder USE A LARGE PORTION OF HIS POWER TO KILL DEATH. Let's say it was multideath. Wouldn't multideath be the equal to multi Eternity? The UN Erased Multieternity and replaced it, all better, like it was nothing in an instant. This alone shows the UN truly had more power than the classic Beyonder.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOt the same UN. The Un you are referring to was said on panel by quasar to posses the destructive power over a universe. This is from a beign with cosmic senses. SO quasar would know how much energy the weapon was wielding. THe Current UN was used by Reed and destroyed THE MULTIVERSE AND THEN RECREATED IT. Not the same at all. USe your logic.

And why do you persist in making things up?

Can you provide a single panel of what you call the "Classic UN", which depicts or describes it's power being confined to one Universe?

I'd bet you can't.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder USE A LARGE PORTION OF HIS POWER TO KILL DEATH. Let's say it was multideath. Wouldn't multideath be the equal to multi Eternity? The UN Erased Multieternity and replaced it, all better, like it was nothing in an instant. This alone shows the UN truly had more power than the classic Beyonder.

And yet even after killing death Beyonder still had enough power within him to take out all the cosmic and abstracts in the room.

Originally posted by Galan007
What's with all of these little tirades today?

And why do you persist in making things up?

Can you provide a single panel of what you call the "Classic UN", which depicts or describes it's power being confined to one Universe?

I'd bet you can't.

LMAO. Quasar says it right before he is about to fire it. He says he has to be careful or he could destroy the entire universe. Quasar has cosmic senses. Wouldn't he know how much energy was being put into his blast?

Originally posted by Supreme being
And yet even after killing death Beyonder still had enough power within him to take out all the cosmic and abstracts in the room.

Most of the abstracts are still less than Death, Eternity and infinity. The ebyonder is the one who said most of his power was gone into that cup.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Most of the abstracts are still less than Death, Eternity and infinity. The ebyonder is the one who said most of his power was gone into that cup.

You do know the Tribunal was within that group of abstracts and cosmics. 😕

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. Quasar says it right before he is about to fire it. He says he has to be careful or he could destroy the entire universe. Quasar has cosmic senses. Wouldn't he know how much energy was being put into his blast?

I'd look over the Quasar scan one more time before you "laugh your ass off". 🙄

Quasar never once says that the UN's power is confined to one Universe, he simply remarks that the UN could easily destroy the Universe he was in. doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Beyonder is no where near the current LT. the current lt can destroy and shap megaverses. The classic beyonder could barely kill Death. They are no where near. And the IG did NOT stop the Current UN. only the classic one. Quasar said on panel how much energy the UN was wielding at the time. Universal destruction. NOT MULTIVERSAL.

Also i just noticed an error in this post, are you stating that the LT now possess the power of a million multiverses?

Originally posted by Supreme being
You do know the Tribunal was within that group of abstracts and cosmics. 😕

I also know that the LT back then has been retconned. The minute they retconned the beyonder, they also made the LT infinitely more powerful. You do realize this right? THe LT has said on panel THAT NONE are above him save the one above all. SO classic LT is a shade of what the current LT is.