The Current UN vs. The Classic Beyonder.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which tells us that Quasar is telling us how much energy the UN is putting out. If it were multiverse, Quasar being cosmic would have said this. HE DIDN"T.

Quasar does NOT have Multiversal Awareness.

Quasar has Universal Awareness.

What does being a Cosmic have to do with knowing the ins and outs of the UN?

Since when is Quasar a Multiversal Omniscient?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And even still, you are ignoring the fact that the beyonder used much of his power to kill death. The UN could kill MULTIDEATH AND RESET HER SAME AS MULTIETERNITY.

The UN has NEVER remade the Omniverse.

So no, the UN as far as we know, can't reamke the Omniverse.

Again,

1984 = the Multiverse - in - 2007 = Omniverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. I surmise the The IG was supreme of one reality. Thus making it the final judge of that reality and The LT had to figure away around that. THat would be like One county in a state having thier own laws. The state's attorney would still be the man in charge, but have no authority in that county. Until he figures out a way around that counties laws by passing a bigger mandate that that county, can no longer make it's own laws. This is what the LT did.

😕

Speculation galore.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The IG was never multiversal in the sense that it could kill or take over multieternity. The IG saga specifically says that the user takes ETERNITY"s place. Not multieternity.

No where On Panel or In a bio is it stated or depicted that the IG can ONLY take over Eternity's position.

That actually silly come to think about it.

The IG curbstomped Eternity.

Why would anyone want to become Eternity?

When Thanos did that, (purposely) he lost the IG and Eternity's status.

Originally posted by Supreme being
And yet an incomplete IG negated the energies of the UN , and before you start the crap about classic UN and new one i think you should provide the issue these differences were stated.

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He will NEVER be able to provide that.

It's all in his head.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I also know that the LT back then has been retconned. The minute they retconned the beyonder, they also made the LT infinitely more powerful. You do realize this right? THe LT has said on panel THAT NONE are above him save the one above all. SO classic LT is a shade of what the current LT is.

LT has never been retconned damm I have been burned for that numerous times but his power increased without a retcon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Millionjs of times more Powerful than the Multiverse.

In 1984 the Multiverse was the Omniverse in Marvel.

That equates to Beyonder being Millions of times more powerful than the Omniverse.

This confuses me isn't the omniverse a rather new thing I don't think they had one in 84 it was "just" a plain multiverse not a omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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He will NEVER be able to provide that.

It's all in his head.

You mean like there aren't any actual issues saying DS has decreased in power? SO by this forum's own rules they are now setting forth, there has to be an actual retconned for someone to be more powerful or less powerful. by this standard, Darkseid is as powerful as Galactus and always has been and will always will be.

No he isn't sorry.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You mean like there aren't any actual issues saying DS has decreased in power? SO by this forum's own rules they are now setting forth, there has to be an actual retconned for someone to be more powerful or less powerful. by this standard, Darkseid is as powerful as Galactus and always has been and will always will be.

That's how it works in Marvel.

An entire issue was dedicated to Beyonder's retcon.

Originally posted by Utrigita
This confuses me isn't the omniverse a rather new thing I don't think they had one in 84 it was "just" a plain multiverse not a omniverse.

Question:

Where do you see me claiming that the Multiverse was the Omniverse in this quote you replied to?

"Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Millions of times more Powerful than the Multiverse.

In 1984 the Multiverse was the Omniverse in Marvel.

That equates to Beyonder being Millions of times more powerful than the Omniverse"

As you can see,

I'm saying the Multiverse in 1984 was the equivilent of the Omniverse now.

Why?

Because the Multiverse was the entirety of the Mainstream Marvel company in 1984.

Just like the Omniverse is the entirety of Marvel today, since 1992 officially.

Originally posted by Utrigita
isn't the omniverse a rather new thing

Actually the Omniverse has been in Marvel publication since 1983. (UK titles)

It wasn't Mainstream though, so it's as though it didn't exist, yet it did.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Question:

Where do you see me claiming that the Multiverse was the Omniverse in this quote you replied to?

"Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Millions of times more Powerful than the Multiverse.

In 1984 the Multiverse was the Omniverse in Marvel.

That equates to Beyonder being Millions of times more powerful than the Omniverse"

As you can see,

I'm saying the Multiverse in 1984 was the equivilent of the Omniverse now.

Why?

Because the Multiverse was the entirety of the Mainstream Marvel company in 1984.

Just like the Omniverse is the entirety of Marvel today, since 1992 officially.

Actually the Omniverse has been in Marvel publication since 1983. (UK titles)

It wasn't Mainstream though, so it's as though it didn't exist, yet it did.

You making up bullshit as you see fit. When I said that the Omniverse existed before and had always been there, you screemed bloody murder. NOw that it suits your needs, you say it didn't and that the multiverse was the omniverse. Hell ****ing no. The omniverse was always there, and the Beyonder wasn't more powerful than the omniverse. only the multiverse. Now go spam some more threads.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You making up bullshit as you see fit. When I said that the Omniverse existed before and had always been there, you screemed bloody murder.

The Omniverse was NOT part of the Marvel Mainstream publication.

It did NOT have anything to do with the Marvel Multiverse.

(of course you wouldn't know that)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOw that it suits your needs, you say it didn't and that the multiverse was the omniverse. Hell ****ing no.

It wasn't.

So you can "Hell sign23 all you want.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The omniverse was always there, and the Beyonder wasn't more powerful than the omniverse. only the multiverse.

Read Comics before debating.

The Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multiverse:

Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.

So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86'

Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now go spam some more threads.

With concrete Evidence? I sure will.

Now you go run along and READ COMICS and stop the bullshit ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Omniverse was NOT part of the Marvel Mainstream publication.

It did NOT have anything to do with the Marvel Multiverse.

(of course you wouldn't know that)

It wasn't.

So you can "Hell sign23 all you want.

Read Comics before debating.

The Beyonder was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multiverse:

Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.

So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86'

Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse

With concrete Evidence? I sure will.

Now you go run along and READ COMICS and stop the bullshit ...

Are you retarded or what? What the ****. Of course I did know the omniverse WAS part of marvel. Where do you get this shit. You are such a tard. The One above has always been the same. He has always had his same power. The omniverse was never stated NOT to be part of marvel. What was stated is that is was DISCOVERED. Now you go chew a brick ass hole.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you retarded or what? What the ****. Of course I did know the omniverse WAS part of marvel. Where do you get this shit. You are such a tard. The One above has always been the same. He has always had his same power. The omniverse was never stated NOT to be part of marvel. What was stated is that is was DISCOVERED. Now you go chew a brick ass hole.

You just can't get enough of your bull shit can you?

blahblah Don't you get sick of yourself?

PROVE what you just posted.

"The Omniverse has always been a part of Marvel" (NOT in Continuity)

which translates to, inconsequential.

"What was stated is that is was DISCOVERED"

WHERE is this stated?

Go ahead and show us duke, show us how much shit you spew.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You just can't get enough of your bull shit can you?

blahblah Don't you get sick of yourself?

PROVE what you just posted.

"The Omniverse has always been a part of Marvel" (NOT in Continuity)

which translates to, inconsequential.

"What was stated is that is was DISCOVERED"

WHERE is this stated?

Go ahead and show us duke, show us how much shit you spew.

The minute it was introduced on panel, it was discovered becuz no one EVER mentioned it before. Now you go lick that shit up you posted about me. The omniverse has always been. The One above didn't just create it. It's been there. You just don't like the fact that i'm screwing with your rediculous claim to fame, Knowing all things marvel. bah. You may know your stuff, but your personal assements screw up what could be a wealth of knowlege. I refuse to learn anything from you becuz you wont' analyse enough, and you make quick hasty judgements and stick with them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The minute it was introduced on panel, it was discovered becuz no one EVER mentioned it before. Now you go lick that shit up you posted about me. The omniverse has always been. The One above didn't just create it. It's been there. You just don't like the fact that i'm screwing with your rediculous claim to fame, Knowing all things marvel. bah. You may know your stuff, but your personal assements screw up what could be a wealth of knowlege. I refuse to learn anything from you becuz you wont' analyse enough, and you make quick hasty judgements and stick with them.

You made this fallacy of a claim:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What was stated is that is was DISCOVERED.

Now you respond with,

"The minute it was introduced on panel, it was discovered becuz no one EVER mentioned it before"

So you were talking out your ass as I figured. 🙂

Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.

So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86'

Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse

You may not like it, too bad.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You made this fallacy of a claim:

Now you respond with,

"The minute it was introduced on panel, it was discovered becuz no one EVER mentioned it before"

So you were talking out your ass as I figured. 🙂

Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.

So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86'

Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse

You may not like it, too bad.

No he wasn't. He never was. He was only fooled into thinking He was. You lose tard. There was never any beyond wrealm. And the omniverse always was.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No he wasn't. He never was. He was only fooled into thinking He was. You lose tard. There was never any beyond wrealm. And the omniverse always was.

Interesting,

the Beyond Realm existed even AFTER the retcon,

This is YEARS AFTER Beyonder was retconned.

Still has his own UNIVERSE 😱

"Fooled?"

"There never was any beyond realm?"

😂

How many more times before you get it?

You can't mess with me and my Marvel Cosmics dogs. 😎

While you rely on making stuff up, I have ALL the proof a few clicks away.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting,

the Beyond Realm existed even AFTER the retcon,

This is YEARS AFTER Beyonder was retconned.

Still has his own UNIVERSE 😱

"Fooled?"

"There never was any beyond realm?"

😂

How many more times before you get it?

You can't mess with me and my Marvel Cosmics dogs. 😎

While you rely on making stuff up, I have ALL the proof a few clicks away.

Yeah, he wasn't the beyond wrealm. That is what I meant. I know about the true beyonders.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yeah, he wasn't the beyond wrealm. That is what I meant. I know about the true beyonders.

I just showed you Beyonder in the Beyond Realm and you're going to say he wasn't the Beyond Realm? 😕

This has nothing to do with the Beyonders.