Originally posted by gpchristloves
for ginerations they have been trying to prove he was just a man but all of them have been for not THey no that the tomb is empty you can go and see it to this day he did rise and he is god
That logic is absolutely absurd... Let's just say for the sake of argument that 'they' indeed found the tomb where Jesus was laid after his crucifixion/death; how does it being empty in any reasonable way prove that Jesus was indeed resurrected and went up into heaven as God?
Originally posted by TRH
your religion is ignorant and responsible for many many deaths and misery in this world Christianity reminds me of stuff I sometimes step on in the gutter
And you know what tickles me about this statement?
"Christianity reminds me of stuff I sometimes step on in the gutter."
If I said that about Islam or Hinduism or any other religion, I'd be spewing hate speech. You, on the other hand, are just fighting the good fight against us, the oppressors and destroyers.
**** off and die in a fire.
Originally posted by FeceMan
A religion can't be ignorant. A religion isn't sentient. A religion has no will. I religion is not responsble for deaths and misery.And you know what tickles me about this statement?
"Christianity reminds me of stuff I sometimes step on in the gutter."
If I said that about Islam or Hinduism or any other religion, I'd be spewing hate speech. You, on the other hand, are just fighting the good fight against us, the oppressors and destroyers.
**** off and die in a fire.
Though we often disagree Fece... I say good show.
Originally posted by marcu
So it was reading of the bible ONLY that turned you away from Christianity? Or did other things play a part?
No.
Reading the Bible was the first thing that turned me off from Christianity. And why wouldn't it ? It's the basis of Christianity itself.
The whole "anti-gay" sentiment from Christian forces was the second motivation for my abandonment of my old religion.
There are like 10 other reasons....
I already wrote an entire essay to Quiero Mota about it...do i really have to repeat myself ?
Originally posted by marcu
Now I know why you are laughing...ok. Well, I guess I can see where marraige may be hard to come by for you. LOL. It's ok. And sorry, I forgot about all that. 😮
Even if Gay Marriage becomes legalized in New York, I probably will not do it. I don't trust anyone enough to bond with in that kind of way. Sadly....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
My point was that I think many Christians would abandon thier figure Christ if he was proven to be nothing more than human. Which is sad..He was a great person. He should not be forgotten simply because he was human.
As a Buddhist, I admire Buddha greatly, regardless of the fact that he is only human.
Im a little confused.
Do Christians worship Christ AND God, or just God, or is God and Jesus the same, or are the separate entities but both Gods or is one greater than the other, and which one?
As far as Buddha goes - I agree. I think that gives me more hope, the fact that Buddha was a human and that humans can be good without alternative motives - like power, glory or money. 👆
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Do Christians worship Christ AND God, or just God, or is God and Jesus the same, or are the separate entities but both Gods or is one greater than the other, and which one?
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Originally posted by FeceManSome Christians do. The LDS worship, through Christ, God the Father who is an entirely separate entity that is one in purpose with the rest of the Godhead, for
We worship Christ, who is God, who is a separate entity that is, at the same time, one with Christ and the Holy Spirit.😕
John 14: 13, 26Jesus Christ who is the literal physical and spiritual Son of God, thus also a God, is the Advocate of Man with the Father, but is only one with the Father in that they are one in purpose in the same manner that Man can be one with God. The Holy Spirit is also a separate individual that is a member of the Godhead. Trinitarian doctrine is a perversion from our perspective. Trinitarian doctrine is an attempt to reconcile statements such as the following with the fact that God the Father and Christ as well as the Holy Spirit are three distinct and separate individuals:
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.Col. 3: 17
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Exodus 34:14-17
14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.Isa. 43: 10
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Bible quotes using the term one, supporting separate individuals particularly John 17:21
Gen. 11: 6
6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.Matthew 19:5-6
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.John 17: 11, 21
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.John 10: 30
30 I and my Father are one.Rom. 15: 6-7
6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.John 14:20
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.