Would you still Worship Christ if....

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Would you still Worship Christ if....

Let's just say that in some future timeline where we still exist, there was concrete proof that Jesus Christ was simply a human being and was never resurrected.

I don't know what the proof would be, but for argument's sake, let us just say it was universally proven by all standards, and there was no more room for denial.

Would you abandon Christ ? Would you no longer worship him ? Would you deny his words, and forget about him as your savior ? (to all Christians)

Or

Would you still love him because of the teachings he has presented to you ? Would you remain loyal despite his lack of divinity, despite his being a human being, because of the example he set ?

People do (and always have) worshipped humans.

Well, I supppose concrete proof is concrete proof. I would not be able to argue it then anymore. I would not worship something that is proving to be other than what I have thought all along. I don't think it would change me much as a person though...I'd still be my loveable self. *bats eyelashes*

Originally posted by marcu
Well, I supppose concrete proof is concrete proof. I would not be able to argue it then anymore. I would not worship something that is proving to be other than what I have thought all along. I don't think it would change me much as a person though...I'd still be my loveable self. *bats eyelashes*

That is thee most honest answer I have ever heard a Christian say on KMC period....

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My point was that I think many Christians would abandon thier figure Christ if he was proven to be nothing more than human. Which is sad..

He was a great person. He should not be forgotten simply because he was human.

As a Buddhist, I admire Buddha greatly, regardless of the fact that he is only human.

Re: Would you still Worship Christ if....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Let's just say that in some future timeline where we still exist, there was[b] concrete proof that Jesus Christ was simply a human being and was never resurrected.

I don't know what the proof would be, but for argument's sake, let us just say it was universally proven by all standards, and there was no more room for denial.

Would you abandon Christ ? Would you no longer worship him ? Would you deny his words, and forget about him as your savior ? (to all Christians)

Or

Would you still love him because of the teachings he has presented to you ? Would you remain loyal despite his lack of divinity, despite his being a human being, because of the example he set ? [/B]

If you take away that Christ was not God made flesh than you completely obliterate Christianity in a domino like effect. If Christ wasn't God than his sacrifice didn't save us all of our sins, if Christ wasn't God then believing in him doesn't grant you eternal life in heaven and so on and so forth. Christianity relies on Christ being divine, no way around it, it simply cannot exist without that concept.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
My point was that I think many Christians would abandon thier figure Christ if he was proven to be nothing more than human. Which is sad..

He was a great person. He should not be forgotten simply because he was human.

As a Buddhist, I admire Buddha greatly, regardless of the fact that he is only human.

I would still be grateful and thankful for the things that He and the bible have taught me though. If ever concrete proof showed him to be a regular guy, I'd still admire him and thank my lucky stars that I have gained certain things from knowing him.

I don't know what kind of person I would be today without his teachings.

Re: Would you still Worship Christ if....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Let's just say that in some future timeline where we still exist, there was[b] concrete proof that Jesus Christ was simply a human being and was never resurrected.
[/B]

^ That's every Muslim's wet-dream: proof that 'Isa bin Mariam' lacks divinity.

To answer the thread, I would either become either a Jew or a Muslim, because they also worship the God of Abraham. Christianity would be rendered false, so I would have to reevaluate my view of God.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is thee most honest answer I have ever heard a Christian say on KMC period....

👆

Somehow that is painfully sad, no? 🙁

*sighs*

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
^ That's every Muslim's wet-dream: proof that 'Isa bin Mariam' lacks divinity.

Do thier wet dreams secrete semen or blood ? I wondor...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
To answer the thread, I would either become either a Jew or a Muslim, because they also worship the God of Abraham. Christianity would be rendered false, so I would have to reevaluate my view of God.

So you would simply forget about Jesus despite his teachings and contribution to the world ?

Re: Would you still Worship Christ if....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Let's just say that in some future timeline where we still exist, there was[b] concrete proof that Jesus Christ was simply a human being and was never resurrected.

I don't know what the proof would be, but for argument's sake, let us just say it was universally proven by all standards, and there was no more room for denial.

Would you abandon Christ ? Would you no longer worship him ? Would you deny his words, and forget about him as your savior ? (to all Christians)

Or

Would you still love him because of the teachings he has presented to you ? Would you remain loyal despite his lack of divinity, despite his being a human being, because of the example he set ? [/B]

If Christ was a liar I wouldn't follow him, nor would I call him my friend. He's proved to me he isn't one though, so even if I died being separated from him - I'd still die being content knowing that Love exists, and that Love will one day remove Satan and all evil from existence.

Re: Would you still Worship Christ if....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Let's just say that in some future timeline where we still exist, there was[b] concrete proof that Jesus Christ was simply a human being and was never resurrected.

I don't know what the proof would be, but for argument's sake, let us just say it was universally proven by all standards, and there was no more room for denial.

Would you abandon Christ ? Would you no longer worship him ? Would you deny his words, and forget about him as your savior ? (to all Christians)

Or

Would you still love him because of the teachings he has presented to you ? Would you remain loyal despite his lack of divinity, despite his being a human being, because of the example he set ? [/B]

Personally this wouldn't really change my opinion of Jesus.

What he accomplished was still incredibly impressive.

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Originally posted by Robtard
If you take away that Christ was not God made flesh than you completely obliterate Christianity in a domino like effect. If Christ wasn't God than his sacrifice didn't save us all of our sins, if Christ wasn't God then believing in him doesn't grant you eternal life in heaven and so on and so forth. Christianity relies on Christ being divine, no way around it, it simply cannot exist without that concept.

So while Christianity depends on an unproven possibility, Buddhism depends on human wisdom and experience itself...

Now I remember why I am Buddhist, thanks. 🙂

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Originally posted by Thundar
If Christ was a liar I wouldn't follow him, nor would I call him my friend. He's proved to me he isn't one though, so even if I died being separated from him - I'd still die being content knowing that Love exists, and that Love will one day remove Satan and all evil from existence.

If Christ was proven to be human, what would still convince you that Satan exists ?

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Originally posted by Thundar
If Christ was a liar I wouldn't follow him, nor would I call him my friend. He's proved to me he isn't one though, so even if I died being separated from him - I'd still die being content knowing that Love exists, and that Love will one day remove Satan and all evil from existence.

That is just scary. 😱

Replace Christ with Allah and it still works.

lol

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Do thier wet dreams secrete semen or blood ? I wondor...

😐 + 🤨 *no comment*

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So you would simply forget about Jesus despite his teachings and contribution to the world ?

Excuse me? Where in that post did I say "forget about Jesus"?

Well...this is one great thread that makes me think. I would still love and respect Jesus but not like a holy worship thing. It would be more of how people respect Martin Luther King Jr. If Jesus didn't have the powers and was just a normal human, he would be no different from us...we are all children of God.

I'd probably become Jewish again.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is just scary. 😱

Replace Christ with Allah and it still works.

How so? Scary that I would give my life for the sake of Love, despite not receiving any benefit for it? My goal in this life is to bring glory to God, not to myself - and the thing I most desire is to have a relationship with him. God gave up everything for all of us, so I love him enough to give up my greatest desire in life to see him happy. Still, despite my death, I would still have a sense of satisfaction knowing that God would know how truly much I loved him, as well as knowing that God himself would be able to share his love with others for eternity.

This is why yours and Urizen's version of Love will never be able exist beyond death. Your love is limited, and you know it -- as you both are inherently afraid of death and or hell and the suffering that comes along with it. When I die, my Love will continue. When you die - your Love will die with you.