Iceman vs The Flash

My point is more on the lines of a molecular sized part of Bobby remaining in the arena and Bobby remaining there. We are the ones assuming that if Flash takes a chunk of Bobby his mind will leave too, assuming that the size of the chunk matter.

Iceman has splited before, but he knew it, his consience was there interpreting his position, if Flash actually speed blitzes, it could be that Bobby is left behind instead of taken with the larger chunk.

In Xmen #195 page 7?(they dont number them)
iceman is occupying the same space as a wall,he dissperses his body and reforms while teammates are falling and saves them(on page 8?),it sates that bobby has learned that his flesh is ice and ice is crystal,and every part of a crystal contains enough information to recreate the whole,

Still undecided but i am checking the respect threads

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Are you saying like Flash tackles him like a football player for some reason and some ice flakes come off Iceman's body, he can return from those flakes when the rest of his original ice body is in the speed force?

Yes

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Yes

Of course Flash can just suck those pieces up with a whirlwind and throw them in too.

Now that may actually work. Will it be fast enough to keep Bobby from moving to other waters? Will it take every molecule for sure without dispersing some materials and doing it worse? Can Flash throw air into the speed force? Will Flash be smart enough to pull this off without previous knowledge?

Doesn't the Flash contain moisture himself?

Iceman could erect a meters thick wall of solid ice all around him. make himself so slippery and frictionless that the Flash just slips off of him and loses his grip (has happened to The Flash before in comics).

don't think Iceman is going to lose to The Flash. though I like both characters.

Originally posted by janus77
Iceman could erect a meters thick wall of solid ice all around him. make himself so slippery and frictionless that the Flash just slips off of him and loses his grip (has happened to The Flash before in comics).

He would never have the chance.

5mins prep is 4mins and 59 seconds more than Iceman would need 🙂

Originally posted by janus77
5mins prep is 4mins and 59 seconds more than Iceman would need 🙂

Forgot about that.

During those same 5 minutes Flash will be stealing all the KE on the planet and once the match starts he'll be able to pick apart wall piece by piece.

I hear alot of the idea that Bobby's mind will exit his body before it's dumped into the speedforce.

Do you have any clue how fast Flash will be going? Bobby will be in the Speedforce before he realizes Flash was there.

The issue Candy is that Flash cannot really tag Bobby, he would need to dump the planet, his clothes and his fluids to make sure he took Iceman.

Originally posted by Bentley
The issue Candy is that Flash cannot really tag Bobby, he would need to dump the planet, his clothes and his fluids to make sure he took Iceman.

He'll be in the Speed Force before he can even process the thought of merging with all water on Earth.

First of all, he has prep, so Iceman could put himself in most of the world. Second, Flash cannot be sure that every molecule of Iceman is dumped when he makes his move. Flash doesn't have microscopic vision.

Thread starter said to the death, so i think BFR is not going to help here,this is too much debatable evidence that he could even take all of bobby, or be sure he had him in the first place, 5 minutes prep plus the "to the death" rules i have to go with Iceman for the win

According to the rules in this thread
Current flash------ iceman wins 9/10
Wally/Barry-------- Iceman wins 7/10

I think the more experienced Flash's will figure something to kill bobby i have to give them alot of respect

I am not debating the speed issue but to kill bobby seems alittle hard to do these days,

I have read both respect threads,this is only my opinon

Okay... I didn't notice that they had prep...

Well then Bobby wins.

Everyone keeps talking about dumping Bobby into the speed force!

The point of this being to the death aside, couldn't Bobby just transfer to the moisture within the Flash himself. If so what good does it do to put him in the speedforce? There either both gonna get stuck there or Flash will just bring Bobby back with him when he returns! Also how in the hell is Flash going to get rid of all the moister in the planet? He needs it to breath and live also! Even if he didn't where the hell is he going to place it. Is the Flash capable of running off the planet? (No, I'm not being a smartass. I really don't know, thou I SERIOUSLY don't think he should be able to without some kinda of device.) Still if Flash could and did take ALL the moisture off the planet, could Bobby just inhabit it where ever it is?

I've always loved Bobby as a character. I have always seen him as one of not just the most powerful X-Men but, The most powerful X-Men and one of the greatest forces on Earth. The problem is he just doesn't believe he is capable of what he can REALLY do and he doesn't have the discipline to be what he has the potential to be. But thats a huge part of why I love him.

To give flash credit....
In the Flash Resect thread i believe Wally/Flash ran in space
It definetly was not the current flash though,but he has done it.

hmm tuff fight. but bobby has the advantage here with these rules

Flash can never ever lose to anybody.

But I guess Bobby might win cause he's a mutie.

Originally posted by xjustice69x
hmm tuff fight. but bobby has the advantage here with these rules

yeah i think the rules clinch it for iceman,i mean i give props to the more experienced flash('s),And since its a debate i gave some wins for their Awesome feats and crafty ways they use their powers,But i dont see an argument that would lead me to beleive that they could kill him