Originally posted by allfg
In Obi-Wan's case, his lack of speed, strength and overall skill? His simplicity? It seems Master Windu really isn't too wisdomous.
He was fast enough to keep up with GG and Anakin, strong enough to compete and defeat both of the, and skillful enough to beat both of them, although Anakin should have won, and the simplicity of it is what makes it a great form.
Originally posted by Gideon
Jolly, if Obi-Wan ever decided to go on the offensive, Mace would wipe his ass with him, easily. Megaeasily. WTFpwnage, in fact. Obi-Wan would only last long due to his defense, and he'd constantly be pushed around. He has no chance of winning, however.
Yeah, if Obi Wan went on the offensive. I have no doubt he could hold off against Mace for an extended period of time, however. And I agree, Obi can't win this one.
Did I imply that Obi Wan could have a chance on the offensive or that he would win?
Originally posted by jollyjim311
I'm going with Yoda and Obi Wan.Obi Wan, with his Soresu mastery could hold off Mace for a long time, and Yoda could beat Dooku, if he was going all out, in a relatively short amount of time.
Dooku and Mace.
Obi-Wan even with his Soresu, wouldn't be able to hold off Mace's Vapaad.
Vapaad is known as the best all-around Form for killing and Mace would basically just break through Kenobi's defense and destroy him before too long.
Yoda would probably take just a little while longer to kill Dooku.
If Yoda can kill Dooku quick enough, he could kill Mace and win the challenge.
If not, Mace would center in on Yoda and utilize his Shatterpoints against him, killing him off.
If it was just Mace against Yoda however, I'd be leaning towards Yoda, but Mace would have a small margin of possibility to defeating him through the tenant's of Vapaaad.
Originally posted by Rampant ox
Dooku can quite easily hold off Yoda - especially since they dont get to use the force. Yoda's main attribute if his godly force abilities, without them he really isnt that much better than the Count.
Fanboyism! cmon, anyone here knows Yoda can beat Dooku in a saber combat easy enough. Yoda is significantly better than Anakin in saber skill, and Anakin killed Dooku without too much difficulty...
Originally posted by Riverollv
Fanboyism! cmon, anyone here knows Yoda can beat Dooku in a saber combat easy enough. Yoda is significantly better than Anakin in saber skill, and Anakin killed Dooku without too much difficulty...
No, Yoda has never been significantly better with a blade. I will agree that usually he is a good notch above Dooku - but here they are stripped off their force abilities. In an straight up lightsaber battle I wouldnt rank Yoda much above Dooku.
Anakin is irrelevant. You are using an A>B>C argument which means jack.
I actually think Dooku's a better swordsman than Yoda. As flashy as Yoda's fighting style is, it was pretty useless against Dooku in AotC, and I don't buy the way DR makes it seem like Yoda's leagues above Dooku, when AotC makes it pretty clear that in lightsaber combat at least, he's not. The way I see it, if they were to enter a lightsaber battle, it would remain a stalemate until Yoda tires, at which point Dooku would finish him.