Originally posted by Minie Mina
No, you don't owe me anything lol. Anything for a friend.Let's keep talking about the scritp. Because it's getting very interesting. I don't know about you, but Tia amazes me at times. Though, I think she's bad news, but she is very good at what she does.
That's interesting you say that because I found a portion of the script which I believe sort of illustrates that Tia is manipulating Will, or at the very least that she has plans for him.
ELIZABETH
No....
Swann nods at that. Elizabeth has to move along the rail of the Pearl, toward the stern to keep pace with him.
SWANN
I think I am.
ELIZABETH
No. You can't be.
SWANN
(has trouble recalling)
There was a chest, you see...How odd. At the time, it seemed so important.
ELIZABETH
Come aboard!
(to the others)
Someone -- cast a line!
(to Swann)
Come back with us!
Crewman prepare a line, to slowly for Elizabeth. She grabs it from them, casts it out. It lands neatly in Swann's boat, but he makes no move toward it.
SWANN
And a heart, and if you stabbed the heart...you would have to sail forever. That’s how it worked. Stab the heart and take his place. The Dutchman must have a Captain. Silly thing to die for.
Will makes note of that. Jack makes note as well. Glances at Tia Dalma. But Tia Dalma is focused only on Will. She whispers, just loud enough for Will to hear --
TIA DALMA
A touch of destiny...
Due to the action of the two vessels passing, the rope begins to slip toward the edge of the boat.
ELIZABETH
Take the line!
SWANN
(suddenly this is important)
Elizabeth.
She gives him her full attention.
SWANN (cont'd)
When I would reprimand you to obey rules, it was because I did not want you to ever be unhappy. But I should have recognized in your willfulness....your courage. I am proud of you Elizabeth.
The line is about to slip from Swann's boat.
ELIZABETH
The line! Catch the line!
The end of the line falls into the water.
ELIZABETH (cont'd)
Father!
His boat is near the aft of the Pearl.
ELIZABETH (cont'd)
Come back with us! Please! I won't let you go!
TIA DALMA
She must not leave the ship!
Elizabeth climbs the rail. Will gets here slightly ahead of Jack to haul her back.
SWANN
I'll give your love to your mother then, shall I?
Elizabeth stares after him. Watching, helpless.
Light of the boat's lantern is swallowed up by the darkness.
Elizabeth turns toward Will, into his arms. He confronts her...but his eyes drift toward Tia Dalma.
WILL
Is there a way?
TIA DALMA
(shakes her head 'no'😉
He is at peace.
Originally posted by Minie Mina
Well, it's all discussed in the compass discussion thread. Just read, it will be very clear after that 🙂.
r u kidding me? i hate that thread....everytime i go in there i come out with a headache....stupid compass! lol
just tell me... are favors in Jack/Liz or Will/Liz?
Originally posted by savvysparrow
That's interesting you say that because I found a portion of the script which I believe sort of illustrates that Tia is manipulating Will, or at the very least that she has plans for him.ELIZABETH
No....Swann nods at that. Elizabeth has to move along the rail of the Pearl, toward the stern to keep pace with him.
SWANN
I think I am.ELIZABETH
No. You can't be.SWANN
(has trouble recalling)
There was a chest, you see...How odd. At the time, it seemed so important.ELIZABETH
Come aboard!
(to the others)
Someone -- cast a line!
(to Swann)
Come back with us!Crewman prepare a line, to slowly for Elizabeth. She grabs it from them, casts it out. It lands neatly in Swann's boat, but he makes no move toward it.
SWANN
And a heart, and if you stabbed the heart...you would have to sail forever. That’s how it worked. Stab the heart and take his place. The Dutchman must have a Captain. Silly thing to die for.Will makes note of that. Jack makes note as well. Glances at Tia Dalma. But Tia Dalma is focused only on Will. She whispers, just loud enough for Will to hear --
TIA DALMA
A touch of destiny...Due to the action of the two vessels passing, the rope begins to slip toward the edge of the boat.
ELIZABETH
Take the line!SWANN
(suddenly this is important)
Elizabeth.She gives him her full attention.
SWANN (cont'd)
When I would reprimand you to obey rules, it was because I did not want you to ever be unhappy. But I should have recognized in your willfulness....your courage. I am proud of you Elizabeth.
The line is about to slip from Swann's boat.ELIZABETH
The line! Catch the line!The end of the line falls into the water.
ELIZABETH (cont'd)
Father!His boat is near the aft of the Pearl.
ELIZABETH (cont'd)
Come back with us! Please! I won't let you go!TIA DALMA
She must not leave the ship!Elizabeth climbs the rail. Will gets here slightly ahead of Jack to haul her back.
SWANN
I'll give your love to your mother then, shall I?Elizabeth stares after him. Watching, helpless.
Light of the boat's lantern is swallowed up by the darkness.
Elizabeth turns toward Will, into his arms. He confronts her...but his eyes drift toward Tia Dalma.
WILL
Is there a way?TIA DALMA
(shakes her head 'no'😉
He is at peace.
Will takes note of that. Please, don't tell me he's still naive on what happens when you stab the chest.
Tia is looking straight at Will this whole time. A touch of destiny.
Will is still not sure what she's talking about.
Notice a few things about that scene if you will that sort of foreshadow poor William's fate.
First, Tia Dalma repeats her line: "A touch of destiny", almost like she's whispering an incantation.
Also: Note that both Will and Jack are equally interested in stabbing the heart at this point. Will to save his father, Jack I suppose to gain leeverage over Jones if you want to take the non-shippy route.
Also, there is a portion earlier in the script in which Will discusses with Tia Dalma about the souls that are lost. I'll see if I can find it.