Putting it all together...spoilers

Started by savvysparrow126 pages
Originally posted by sparrabethgirl
What crusty Jack image?

The one in the trailer in which Jack looks like he's become a member of Davy Jones' crew. The image is floating around somewhere.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
It looks like Jack, but it flashes so quickly. It's also hard to place where exactly this takes place. I'd like to think she's screaming something that rhymes with Jack, such as "sack" or "whack."

HA! Seriously, you're a crack up. It never fails there's always a sarcastic left hook from you Willo. Another ten points!

I just don't like all the comments that Davy is really this nice guy who's just heartbroken and bitter. All that evil doesn't just appear. Think of it more like Anakin in Star Wars. He didn't just all of a sudden become Darth Vader. It was a process and hints to the dark side (no pun intended) of his personality are revealed prior to his change. I think the same has to be true for Davy and possibly what helped drive him and Calypso apart.

I think you're dead on about Jones. In the script, the minute his heart is on board the Dutchman with him, he starts to feel emotions and tears. To me that suggests that the only part of him that wasn't cruel and sadistic was the heart that he ripped out. Hence, why Calypso was so outraged when he ripped out the only part of himself which was human and loveable. So it wasn't so much Calypso's actions that doomed the relationship, but Jones'. It makes complete sense to me.

It makes you wonder whose story is meant to mirror Jones. Both Will and Jack have taken steps in the same direction. Will has sacrificed his honor in his quest to save his father/his vendetta against Jack. Elizabeth is understandably angry with him and claims he's no better than the other pirates. On the other hand, we see Jack kill his good side in purgatory. And he betrays the whole of the pirate nation to Beckett in his vendetta against all of them. It's all so complicated.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Ha! Whatever happened to her by the way? It was like all of the sudden she lost her spark and disappeared. Or maybe she got eaten by the Kracken.

She had an impending death in her family and was depressed when she would post and said she wouldn't visit the forum anymore cus she was bringing everybody down....but supposedly whoever her source was to AWE spoilers gave her some information she was non too pleased about and she fairly certain that all of her theoreis and clues she/us all dug up was a waste of time....she was a huge supporter of jack and liz....but whatever she found out made her disillusioned with the entire trilogy...

but 😂 regarding her being eaten by the Kracken...

Okay....all i've seen is the 36 and 56 pager...and both of those are missing big chunks of the movie..so unless some of you have seen the entire script...how do you know Jack is nowhere around when Liz is in the water...how do you know this one little shot of her in the water is before they meet back up with jack.....I'm so confused.....I really don't understand how you girls are putting the peices of this puzzle together...

It looks like Jack, but it flashes so quickly. It's also hard to place where exactly this takes place. I'd like to think she's screaming something that rhymes with Jack, such as "sack" or "whack."

Put it in slow-mo, you'll DEFINETLY see her screaming Jack!!

lovethemtigers, Do you know what she found out that could bring her more down than she already is?

Well, I know is Jack. But it is not the final battle scene where Jack is fighting with Davy.

You seem to know a LOT of things. When is it then? But is it true that she'll scream his name more than once? I already asked and I don't remeber if someone answered and I'm too lazy to go check. 😂

There's a scene where Liz is talking to Bootstrap. There, her hair is up.

After that, there comes the scene where we see Liz screaming. I'm not sure how it will come about her screaming for Jack, but I bet my bottom dollar she's screaming Jack.

But it's not in the scene where he's fighting Davy--the last battle.

We don't know everything. But no doubt for me it's Jack's name, I've watched it a hundred times in slow-mo and now I'm completely sure it's his name. And MANY MANY people agrre too. Just gotta see how this all happens. 😉

lol...back to that if she screams Jack debate...huh? lol

I guess we'll see when the movie comes out in 49 days! lol

although i agree she says JACK!!! 😄

Ha, ok she screams Jack! I'm not going to argue. But, I think the more important question is why is she screaming Jack.

Because she Loves him 😍 lol

I dont know but i still think it's cause she see's Jack falling from the Mast of the ship into the water....but ya'll know better than i do so i dont know!

Originally posted by PirateDiva
Because she Loves him 😍 lol

I dont know but i still think it's cause she see's Jack falling from the Mast of the ship into the water....but ya'll know better than i do so i dont know!

Ha, ok, that one I deserved. I knew I should have made some condition as to the response i.e.--

"What is your purpose here in Port Royal Mr. Smith---And no lies."

Ok, that's fine. But where is this scene in the movie, and how does it all fit in. According to the 56 page script, Elizabeth escapes off the Dutchman onto the Empress with the assistance of Norrington.
But it appears as though the Empress is maybe destroyed at some point, or she falls into the water. Why would she be screaming Jack?

Also, what about the rumor from the Comic Con convention where Elizabeth and Jack leap from a high place?

Originally posted by lovethemtigers
She had an impending death in her family and was depressed when she would post and said she wouldn't visit the forum anymore cus she was bringing everybody down....but supposedly whoever her source was to AWE spoilers gave her some information she was non too pleased about and she fairly certain that all of her theoreis and clues she/us all dug up was a waste of time....she was a huge supporter of jack and liz....but whatever she found out made her disillusioned with the entire trilogy...

but 😂 regarding her being eaten by the Kracken...

That's disconcerting. But who was her source, I wonder? I know a lot of people worked on the movie, but it seems suspicious to me that so many people that have the script in their posession and are willing to pass it about higgily-piggily.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Ha, ok, that one I deserved. I knew I should have made some condition as to the response i.e.--

"What is your purpose here in Port Royal Mr. Smith---And no lies."

Ok, that's fine. But where is this scene in the movie, and how does it all fit in. According to the 56 page script, Elizabeth escapes off the Dutchman onto the Empress with the assistance of Norrington.
But it appears as though the Empress is maybe destroyed at some point, or she falls into the water. Why would she be screaming Jack?

Also, what about the rumor from the Comic Con convention where Elizabeth and Jack leap from a high place?

Also where the heck is Will when Liz is screaming Jack? What i still cant figure out is where exactly do Bootstrap and Liz have this conversation that we see in the pic posted earlier?

yes see that jumping from the high place is something i was looking forward too....i really want to see that and hope that it's true and that they keep that!! It would show that they trust each other!!!

This is all speculation, but I have a feeling if she is indeed shouting "Jack," it's more likely someone is coming after him then him falling off something. He's clumsy I know, but this looks like something really intense just happened, like a battle. Maybe it's not the big battle, but there had to have been an attack or something.

Even if it's just because someone is after him, I'll be okay with it. Bottom line is, she screams his name, and her look shows that she IS scared of the thing that is happening to him, whatever the hell it is.

Well, remember that she did just go to hell and back to rescue Jack from purgatory. So I don't think she'd be too anxious to see him die again.

Just a thought.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm not saying it's not a big deal she's calling his name. Not at all. I'm just saying that I don't think he's about to plummet into the water as someone thought earlier. Just a feeling, don't know anything.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Ha, ok she screams Jack! I'm not going to argue. But, I think the more important question is why is she screaming Jack.

Could be possible that they were trying to rescue her. And Jack just came along and Lizzy was calling him like--

"Hey! I'm over here!"