Mr. Mxyzptlk vs Mad Jim Jaspers(AT HIS MOST POWERFULL)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's ask the Thread starter what he meant by,

"at his Most Powerful"

Otherwise we'll be going in circle all day.

Personally I think this thread has just gotten boring as hell at this point, and it needs to die. 🤣

Originally posted by lionking
who wins

Is this Jaspers at his most powerful depiction? (616 Universe)

Or is this Jaspers at Full Power? (the Omniverse)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Is this Jaspers at his most powerful depiction? (616 Universe)

Or is this Jaspers at Full Power? (the Omniverse)

However, the simplest answer is merely to give the opinion on both, in which case you said;

most powerful depiction, Mxy would win.
full power [omniversal], a generous tie, though your thoughts and wording clearly lean in favor of MJJ

Originally posted by Juntai
So when we say Energy Superman at Full Power, we mean, the most powerful being in the omniverse then? That's what has been said of his potential.

Has Superman been seen in the Future obliterating the Omniverse?

If not then that's circumstantial evidence of Superman's potential.

Jaspers was SEEN cancelling out the Omniverse in a Divergent Future.

So not only did the Omniversal Guardian state Jaspers could do it,

it was depicted happening in a Divergent Future.

Originally posted by Juntai
Good call @ asking the thread starter.

However, the simplest answer is merely to give the opinion on both, in which case you said;

most powerful depiction, Mxy would win.

I agree.

Originally posted by Juntai
full power [omniversal], a generous tie, though your thoughts and wording clearly lean in favor of MJJ

Yea, I kinda thought about it now,

Mxy didn't cave in all of DC did he?

In which case I'd have to give the win to Jaspers IMO.

Jun, comes up in here and settles everything one two three style. 😎

Nice.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Mxy didn't cave in all of DC did he?

Originally posted by Galan007
Ummm, he obliterated all of DC, sooooo... 😕

I thought you were under the impression Mxy destroyed

Two Multiverses,

DC and Elseworlds?

Is that all of DC? 😕

Originally posted by Mr Master
I thought you were under the impression Mxy destroyed

Two Multiverses,

DC and Elseworlds?

Is that all of DC? 😕

Everywhere he went was destroyed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy wiped out everything.

Everywhere he went was destroyed.

On Panel he erased a Multiverse.

Where is it stated Elseworlds is a Multiverse?

Where is it stated Mxy destroyed Multiverses?

You said Mxy wiped out everything where ever he went,

did he wipe this out too?

These are valid questions. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel he erased a Multiverse.

Where is it stated Elseworlds is a Multiverse?

Where is it stated Mxy destroyed Multiverses?

Originally posted by Mr Master
You said Mxy wiped out everything where ever he went,

did he wipe this out too?

These are valid questions. 🙂

And second, weren't you just saying that you don't consider panels like that as anything but a joke?

So why now are you trying to use it as evidence against Mxy? 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Elseworlds is most certainly a Multiverse, there's no need to explain that.

Not until I see proof.

Originally posted by Galan007
First of all, Mxy didn't want to erase the real-world..... I should have been more specific and said Mxy erased any realm(s) he wanted to erase.

Cool,

so how do you know he erased Elseworlds instead of choosing not to?

Originally posted by Galan007
And second, weren't you just saying that you don't consider panels like that as anything but a joke?

So why now are you trying to use it as evidence against Mxy?

You brought it up homie.

You said Mxy erased everything he passed by.

He passed by the "real world" as stupid as that is, I was wondering if you felt he took that out too.

ps. Panels like that are a joke.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Well, I already chimed in earlier stating I feel it's a draw unless Mxy can pull a BFR. So long as there is reality MJJ isn't going anywhere regardless of what Mxy does. That's how his powers work. Within reality he's basically an insane omnipotent with complete control over his own form and existence.

The only way to beat him is to take him somewhere where nothing exists. He can only be beaten by BFR per on panel canon material, and as of now he may be beyond that weakness, but it's not stated or depicted, only insinuated by his amalgamation with the Fury.

So, again, I say draw.

👆

What I don't understand is why the Writers were so SPECIFIC, when describing what Mxy erased,

and yet somehow left out Multiverses. hm

"I have had it up to here with these

Alternate Universes and

Divergent Futures and

Parallel Dimensions ...

I mean isn't ONE stupid Reality confusing enough?"

(Alternate Universes and Divergent Futures and Parallel Dimensions)

ALL pertain to ONE Multiverse

Makes sense:

The 616 Multiverse has Alternate Universes = they look the same as 616 with Different Histories.

The 616 Multiverse has Parallel Universes = they look the same as 616 and share the same History until it Diverges at some point and changes it's History from 616's.

The 616 Multiverse has Divergent Futures, Futures that COULD've taken place but never did.

Like Galactus in the Celestial Arc, or Jean in "Here Comes Tomorrow" ...

AGAIN:

No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes, a Multiverse

I don't know what category,

The Phantom Zone & The 5th Dimension fall under.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not until I see proof.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool,

so how do you know he erased Elseworlds instead of choosing not to?

Originally posted by Mr Master
You brought it up homie.

You said Mxy erased everything he passed by.

He passed by the "real world" as stupid as that is, I was wondering if you felt he took that out too.

For the record.

Mxy even comments that he just wanted to let the real-world be, so he transported himself and Bat-Mite to another Dimension.

Have you read World's Funnest, or are you just looking at the scans people have posted on this site?

Originally posted by Galan007
Read DC, they have all the proof you need

I don't think so.

If you ask me is the New Universe in a separate Multiverse and immediately I'll tell you where to look or I'll post the evidence myself.

If all you're giving me is, "read DC" ... 🙄

Well then, I got satisfaction. 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Because the panels of Mxy wiping out Elseworlds directly precede the scan where it is said he destroyed everything.

Mxy never wiped out Elseworlds in those scans.

Mxy left Kingdom Come and then wiped out the Multiverse on the next page.

And as he repeated TWICE!

A Multiverse.

Originally posted by Galan007
Show me one post where I brought up Mxy in the real-world before you did.

You said Mxy destroyed everything everywhere he went.

Then you came back and asked me,

didn't I think those scans were a joke?

Originally posted by Galan007
For the record.

Mxy even comments that he just wanted to let the real-world be, so he transported himself and Bat-Mite to another Dimension.

Mxy doesn't say that in the "real world" scan.

Originally posted by Galan007
Have you read World's Funnest, or are you just looking at the scans people have posted on this site?

Dogs, since yesterday you been acting like a smart ass, if you got a problem let me know, if not on the reals, cut this bull shit out.

If you prefer, we can just make a disaster out of this thread.

It's on you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If all you're giving me is, "read DC" ... 🙄

Well then, I got satisfaction. 😕

Originally posted by Mr Master
Mxy never wiped out Elseworlds in those scans.

Mxy left Kingdom Come and then wiped out the Multiverse on the next page.

These scans:

Are on the page just before this scan:

If these scans were layed in a straight line according to their order, it would look like this:

That's why I asked:

Originally posted by Galan007
Have you read World's Funnest, or are you just looking at the scans people have posted on this site?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dogs, since yesterday you been acting like a smart ass, if you got a problem let me know, if not on the reals, cut this bull shit out.

If you prefer, we can just make a disaster out of this thread.

It's on you.

I have one question, Worlds funnest is a elseworlds comic.
In one comic it was stated that elseworlds was a part of DC, now was that comic were that was stated elseworlds as well?
Because if so, Worlds funnest would be non canon.

And one reality is one universe.
Mxyztplk destroyed the Multiverse, because he thought one universe was stupid enough.

And I'm starting to doubt the Omniverse theory.
Would Mad Jim Jaspers keep on controling universe after universe, until the omniverse would be absorbed?
--That's a little far fetched.

I think they changed the terms in comics, for Multi-Eternity was the sum of the Multiverse an infinite amount of universes.
The term Omniverse was used after that.

And your handbook don't say that the Omniverse consists of an infinite amount of Multiverses, it simply says that other collections of universes (realities) can be refered to as Multiverses and Megaverses.

I think it goes like this.

Universe - One reality
Multiverse - A smaller collection of realities
Megaverse - A lager collection of realities
Omniverse - All realities

Just that they've changed terms, before there was only a Multiverse which consisted of an infinite amount of universes.

Originally posted by Galan007
I hope you feel better then. 🙂

Nah, 🙁

Originally posted by Galan007
That's why I asked:

That was a serious question, not an insult.

That's all I wanted was proof,

you proved you were right 🙂

Mxy erased Kingdom Come.

Now I have Two more questions.

How do we know that Kingdom Come takes place in Elseworlds?

How do we know that Elseworlds is a Multiverse?

If you answer these two with satisfaction,

I'll concede Mxy took out atleast Two Multiverses. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, 🙁

I'm glad things could stay civil though. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's all I wanted was proof,

you proved you were right 🙂

Mxy erased Kingdom Come.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Now I have Two more questions.

How do we know that Kingdom Come takes place in Elseworlds?

How do we know that Elseworlds is a Multiverse?

1.) Kingdom Come is a Elseworlds title.

2.) Elseworlds is structured kind of like the mainstream DCU. Some different archs and titles take place in different Universes.

Almost every story I've read from Elseworlds has taken place in a different Universe or timeline of some sort.