Thor vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by FrothByte
strength: both are too near each other in terms of strength. strength feets nulled.

durability: same with strength. too near each other for a clear winner.

weapons: i still believe mjolnir is more powerful than lasso, bracelets, and headband... but lets just say they're equal.

speed: now everybody agrees ww is faster than thor right? but thor has faced runner, gladiator, silver surfer, and quicksilver and has never looked worse off for his lack in speed. he has shown that he is quite capable of matching super speedy beings. so... speed feats nulled. i don't think ww's speed should be used as a trump card in the arguments.

fighting ability: altho ww looks like she uses more acrobatic moves, i would argue that thor has thousands of years more experience in fighting than ww. but since we have no way to measure this, lets call it even.

so they're all tied up. what gives the edge to the other fighter? I would like to think that thor's versatility should give the win. He has so many methods of war at his disposal (thanks to mjolnir) that if he just uses his head, he should get the win. I mean, if they ever wrote this in comics, ww might get the win, but honestly it should be thor. he just has so much power in his disposal. that is the one thing clear here.

Good post. Answer this. Since you made a list of how wonder woman and thor can match up. Do one for wonder woman and superman because a lot of people say that superman could curb wonderwoman when i think that they are even and dc have said on numerous of occasions that they are equals.

Everyone knows Superman beats Wonder Women because of his superior Speed and Strength,which is all that's needed.
Thor doesn't have the Speed,simple as that.

Let me set some of you here straight.
Even I can beat flash if he doesn't use his speed to beat me.
Just because Thor fought some speedsters and won doesn't mean he can really win against them in real life or even a forum fight. It solely depends on how the fight went and not just the outcome. So using those types of arguments is nonsense. Now for you guys who are saying Thor wins this 80% or more of the time, then you are basically saying that WW has a 20% chance or less to get the lasso around him. Here's what I say to that:

Fact1: Its more than a 90% chance WW will hit Thor at least once in this fight.
Fact2: It is more than a 50% WW can put the lasso on him after a good hit (especially because of her speed).

Thus by the law of statistics, just by the lasso strategy, she has at least a 45% chance of winning (90% x 50% = 45%).

Now if anyone disagrees then they must disagree with those numbers.
And if so then which numbers do you suggest for Fact1 and 2?

Originally posted by carver9
I rarely look at your post, especially when it has anything to do with superman or any dc character because your so one sided that your post dont even matter.

You might be like one of the only on this forum that think that superman could beat thanos. Your problem is you open toooooo much of dc and to less of marvel that your votes are backwards as hell. Read up on thor before voting against him. Trust me picking up a comic is a hell of a lot better than looking at scans.

Superman fan.

LOL...you'd probably vote that Aunt May would beat Deathstroke in H2H.
Seriously...get the Marvel cack out of your mouth.
Unlike the crap you try to put...my votes are nicely backed up with feats and scans...yours are just pure trash.

Originally posted by His Airness
Yet one was defeated by Thor and admitted Thor as his superior.

Im saying Thors shown capable of dealing with characters whom speed is superior to Dianas. Her speed wont matter.

Sure. Glads admitted that Thor was his superior since Thor beat him...once Glads slowed down. When Gladiator actually used his speed...Thor was outmatched.

As for the characters you claim are superior to Diana, did they use their superspeed throughout the fight? I doubt it.

And performing well against speedsters is a case by case scenario..unless you want to agree that all of flash's human villains have FTL reflexes.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Sure. Glads admitted that Thor was his superior since Thor beat him...once Glads slowed down. When Gladiator actually used his speed...Thor was outmatched.

As for the characters you claim are superior to Diana, did they use their superspeed throughout the fight? I doubt it.

And performing well against speedsters is a case by case scenario..unless you want to agree that all of flash's human villains have FTL reflexes.

Gladiators feats hold no merit in this thread because hes faster than Diana.

Have you ever read Thor and Surfers first fight. The whole fight Surfer was in the air staying far enough away to eliminate the chances of physical confrontation. While other Asgardians were getting dominated Thor was still able to react to his every attack.

Happens enough that it could be considered a non weakness.

No, that would be CIS....

Originally posted by Skeets
Everyone knows Superman beats Wonder Women because of his superior Speed and Strength,which is all that's needed.
Thor doesn't have the Speed,simple as that.

No Superman beats WW because of superior power and being depicted as more powerful than she. Like Superman, Thor performs on a higher lv than her.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Marvel itself confirms that the Flash is faster. Ever heard of 'Buried Allen'? The only person to beat the Runner in a race. It's a veiled reference to Barry Allen, the silver age Flash. And Wally west, the current Flash is faster than Barry. Bart was probably potentially faster, but due to his death, we can't be sure of where he ranks.

Buried Alien doesnt equate to all Flashes. As a tribute he was meant to be faster than everyone in Marvel, Flash isnt.

Runner ? Flash

Originally posted by His Airness
Gladiators feats hold no merit in this thread because hes faster than Diana.

And considering that they are both far faster than Thor... it brings the point home even faster. Thor would get pwned by an enemy far faster than he is.

Originally posted by His Airness
Have you ever read Thor and Surfers first fight. The whole fight Surfer was in the air staying far enough away to eliminate the chances of physical confrontation. While other Asgardians were getting dominated Thor was still able to react to his every attack.

Happens enough that it could be considered a non weakness.

Was Superspeed used in that battle? Nope. Thor simply isn't that fast.
It's no different than Flashes rogue gallery tagging the Flash.

Originally posted by His Airness

[BNo, that would be CIS.... [/B]

Just like Thor facing a speedster who doesn't use their speed.

flash wonderwoman, thor beats both their asses in succession. 10 outta 10 against flash and 9 outta 10 against wonderwoman.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And considering that they are both far faster than Thor... it brings the point home even faster. Thor would get pwned by an enemy far faster than he is.

Was Superspeed used in that battle? Nope. Thor simply isn't that fast.
It's no different than Flashes rogue gallery tagging the Flash.

Just like Thor facing a speedster who doesn't use their speed.

Gladiators feats aren't applicable for WW, she isnt as fast.

Yes it was.....

Fast enough

How do you not use your speed? Or does you need to be depicted through the art?

lol, I can't believe you use "Buried Alien" as a feat for Flash... That's stupid in so many ways.

Anyway, If Thor takes the Runner's speed, then he'll take WW A-OK.

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol, I can't believe you use "Buried Alien" as a feat for Flash... That's stupid in so many ways.

BuriedAlien is Flash.

So? He's not Canon to DC Flash... His feat isn't valid.

Originally posted by His Airness
Gladiators feats aren't applicable for WW, she isnt as fast.

Yes it was.....

Fast enough

How do you not use your speed? Or does you need to be depicted through the art?

As said before....both are still>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor in speed.

Are you saying that Thor is a speedster?

Originally posted by His Airness
No Superman beats WW because of superior power and being depicted as more powerful than she. Like Superman, Thor performs on a higher lv than her.

Originally posted by Validus
I lol'd.

No kidding. If anybody thinks Thor wins more than 6 or 7 outta 10 here, they're nuckin' futz.

Thor's speed issue is a huge hinderance whether people want to admit it or not.

Co-signed with KK, using "Buried Alien" as a feat = 😐.

And the speed difference would definetly be a huge problem, but I can see Thor pulling off a majority here, but he'd definetly have his work cut out for him.

Originally posted by His Airness
Gladiators feats hold no merit in this thread because hes faster than Diana.

Have you ever read Thor and Surfers first fight. The whole fight Surfer was in the air staying far enough away to eliminate the chances of physical confrontation. While other Asgardians were getting dominated Thor was still able to react to his every attack.

Happens enough that it could be considered a non weakness.

No, that would be CIS....

you think Gladiator is faster than Diana? I have one thing to say to you. Diana is the only NON SPEEDSTER EVER to enter the speed force uner her own power. Nuff said. Thor goes down to super luminal Superman lvl well placed, highly skilled, FTL reflex punches.

Let's look at this fight logically.

Neither have a strength advantage. i personally think Diana is stronger but that is up for debate.
advantage: Tie

Diana is faster in travel speed, combat speed and reflexes. This can't be argued or denied.
advantage: Diana

Thor has that crazy hammer that he can pull powers out of his ass with.Superior Fire power.
Advantage: Thor

Diana has shown that her bracelets deflect the power of pantheons, superman's punches, the Omega Blast, and create a force field that has never been breached. Diana has also used people's energy against them by redirecting thier blast.
Thor's hammer can absorb obcene amounts of energy and even redirect it.
Unfortunately, Diana isn't throwing energy around.
Advantage: Diana

Let's look at thier options for one hit wins. Thor has the ability to BFR Diana or catch her with a well placed Hammer Toss at FTL and it's good night Diana.

Diana has a Tiara that has killed Gods greater than Thor and a lasso that is the ultimate One hit win.

Advantage: Tie

Both characters have thousands of years of Skill. Diana has to rely on hers much more than Thor rely's or even uses his becuz Thor has become soft with his uber weapon.
Advantage: Diana

Final Judgement: 5/10 each