Thor vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry ABC logic don't work for someone unique as Diana. Being more skilled and faster guarantees her far more hits than she will receive. This is common sense.
The lasso would simply bound him. She can beat the shit out of him if she wants (assuming the soul rape doesn't work).

And Thor's not unique? baka

Unless Diana is actively using the lasso's power of compulsion or soul searing, it's far from a one hit ko or instant win. It certainly doesn't prevent people from thinking or using their powers. And Diana's done nothing on panel to suggest she could lasso Thor without using her high end lasso tricks - which are both unlikely to happen and even so not a guaranteed win - and "beat the shit out of him" without repercussion.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And Thor's not unique? baka

Unless Diana is actively using the lasso's power of compulsion or soul searing, it's far from a one hit ko or instant win. It certainly doesn't prevent people from thinking or using their powers. And Diana's done nothing on panel to suggest she could lasso Thor without using her high end lasso tricks - which are both unlikely to happen and even so not a guaranteed win - and "beat the shit out of him" without repercussion.

No one implied he wasn't unique. I'm Just saying that uniqueness disqualifies ABC logic. You don't see me saying WW wins because of who she beat do you?

She could simply hit Thor and stun him and lasso him with ease. No need for the shenanigans of trying to lasso him like she did Zoom.

While Thor is bound she can simply beat the shit out of him. Match over.

And also by the mere fact that she can hit Thor more times than he can hit her proves she at least wins half the time.

Thor can beat Wonder Woman.

Saying otherwise is borderline trolling/stupidity.

Originally posted by h1a8
No one implied he wasn't unique. I'm Just saying that uniqueness disqualifies ABC logic. You don't see me saying WW wins because of who she beat do you?

She could simply hit Thor and stun him and lasso him with ease. No need for the shenanigans of trying to lasso him like she did Zoom.

While Thor is bound she can simply beat the shit out of him. Match over.

And also by the mere fact that she can hit Thor more times than he can hit her proves she at least wins half the time.

Thor's consistently operated on a level above Diana for, well, the vast majority of either of their careers. Diana is good, great even. Thor is better. Yes, she holds advantages over him. He likewise holds advantages over her, enough to solidify him getting the majority.

No, she cannot "simply beat the shit out of him" while he's bound. Not when he can still will Mjolnir to strike Diana from virtually any angle he decides to, summon adverse weather conditions, and use the lasso to draw her closer in to him so he could strike back.

Thor operates on a higher scale than she does. There's no shame in that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thor can beat Wonder Woman.

Saying otherwise is borderline trolling/stupidity.

Qft.

I mean, if you, somehow, think Diana gets the majority, okay, whatever. That's your prerogative.

But to act like it's impossible for Thor to ever beat her is outright stupid.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thor can beat Wonder Woman.

Saying otherwise is borderline trolling/stupidity.

Thor can beat WW but not for a majority (which is what we are arguing).

Thor will beat Wonder Woman for the majority, Thor will out right overwhelmed her, WW is tough but Thor is tougher and has more raw power than she does. WW will make Thor earned every victory, but she will fall in the end, overall Thor is just too damn powerful for WW to handle.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's consistently operated on a level above Diana for, well, the vast majority of either of their careers. Diana is good, great even. Thor is better. Yes, she holds advantages over him. He likewise holds advantages over her, enough to solidify him getting the majority.

No, she cannot "simply beat the shit out of him" while he's bound. Not when he can still will Mjolnir to strike Diana from virtually any angle he decides to, summon adverse weather conditions, and use the lasso to draw her closer in to him so he could strike back.

Thor operates on a higher scale than she does. There's no shame in that.

How can a bound Thor do anything when he is getting rocked silly? He won't be able to think coherently getting hit in the head. You act is if Diana's blows to him wouldn't do any stun effect. Hell how many times we seen Thor hit hard enough where he drops his hammer (he's stunned from the hit)? I don't recall when someone was beating Thor in the face that he was still able to summon the hammer to hit them or worst create weather effects. If you go that route then I can say she uses Thor as an immortal shield while beating his arse.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor will beat Wonder Woman for the majority, Thor will out right overwhelmed her, WW is tough but Thor is tougher and has more raw power than she does. WW will make Thor earned every victory, but she will fall in the end, overall Thor is just too damn powerful for WW to handle.

The strength argument is another debate. Ill concede to Thor being stronger since I don't want to go there and Strength will not be a deciding factor here.

People tend to forget about speed and skill and focus more on the irrelevant strength. And what about the lasso? Why forget about that?

Strength: 10-9 in favor of Thor.
Speed: 10-8 in favor of Wondy
Skill: 10-9 in favor of Wondy
Durability: 10-9 in favor of Thor
Energy Output: 10-8 in favor of Thor

The only significant advantage I see in Wondy is her speed. Skill-wise, the gap is only marginal.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor 7/10.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's consistently operated on a level above Diana for, well, the vast majority of either of their careers. Diana is good, great even. Thor is better. Yes, she holds advantages over him. He likewise holds advantages over her, enough to solidify him getting the majority.

No, she cannot "simply beat the shit out of him" while he's bound. Not when he can still will Mjolnir to strike Diana from virtually any angle he decides to, summon adverse weather conditions, and use the lasso to draw her closer in to him so he could strike back.

Thor operates on a higher scale than she does. There's no shame in that.

Originally posted by "Id"
Strength: 10-9 in favor of Thor.
Speed: 10-8 in favor of Wondy
Skill: 10-9 in favor of Wondy
Durability: 10-9 in favor of Thor
Energy Output: 10-8 in favor of Thor

The only significant advantage I see in Wondy is her speed. Skill-wise, the gap is only marginal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No.
Thor hasn't appeared above diana's level since a long time. His advantages gets negated by her toys, her advantages don't.
Thor would be 6 in skill and 4 in speed compared to diana's 10.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No.
Thor hasn't appeared above diana's level since a long time. His advantages gets negated by her toys, her advantages don't.
Thor would be 6 in skill and 4 in speed compared to diana's 10.

Yes.

Read more Thor and Wonder Woman comics, I guess. Thor's highs are higher than hers and have consistently always have been. His averages are also better than hers.

Her toys don't automatically nullify his advantages.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes.

Read more Thor and Wonder Woman comics, I guess. Thor's highs are higher than hers and have consistently always have been. His averages are also better than hers.

Her toys don't automatically nullify his advantages.

I guess that would be some imaginary comics then. His highs may be highers than her against cosmic type of characters but he doesn't operate at a higher level against people in the same power bracket than diana.

They do nullify his biggest advantage, his energy projection.

Originally posted by "Id"
Arguments can be made for her speed. But not her skill.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There is no argument being made here. Both are facts, diana is the most skilled high herald via feats (yes, she is a HH), thor's XYZ years of experience wouldn't cut it against her.

No. Wonder Women is not High Herald. The most skilled HH would likely be Majestros.

Thor's XYZ years experience would rival Wonder Womens, because he has battle feats to prove so.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No.

I guess that would be some imaginary comics then. His highs may be highers than her against cosmic type of characters but he doesn't operate at a higher level against people in the same power bracket than diana.

They do nullify his biggest advantage, his energy projection.

Well, considering I've read all of Diana's notable post crisis appearances from Perez to JMS and virtually all of Thor's stuff, I guess I'll just have to tell you that yes, Thor's highs and averages alike are superior to Diana's. Not sure what's imaginary about canon comics that actually exist for people to read, but you're entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

It's not completely nullified unless you think Diana will, with out fail, block all of Thor's attacks flawlessly and win her match without being attacked successfully by Thor once. Which is completely ridiculous. Fact of the matter is that Thor will hit her and it will hurt Diana and her toys don't block massive weather conditions, either.

Originally posted by "Id"
Yes an argument is being made.

No. Wonder Women is not High Herald. The most skilled HH would likely be Majestros.

Thor's XYZ years experience would rival Wonder Womens, because he has battle feats to prove so.

Majestros? Even orion is more skilled than him. Diana is along with majestic at the bottom of HH category.

That would be some imaginary feats. Diana has stalemated the likes of Lady Shiva in combat who then desired to learn amazonian style of fight.

Didn't you enter Wonder Woman in the Mid Herald Title Bout?

Unless you've just recently decided to change your mind that Diana is a high herald (which she's not, but okay).

Thor 5 or 6/10. Good fight, imo.