Thor vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, considering I've read all of Diana's notable post crisis appearances from Perez to JMS and virtually all of Thor's stuff, I guess I'll just have to tell you that yes, Thor's highs and averages alike are superior to Diana's. Not sure what's imaginary about canon comics that actually exist for people to read, but you're entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

It's not completely nullified unless you think Diana will, with out fail, block all of Thor's attacks flawlessly and win her match without being attacked successfully by Thor once. Which is completely ridiculous. Fact of the matter is that Thor will hit her and it will hurt Diana and her toys don't block massive weather conditions, either.

Why is that ridiculous? Because you think that way? The fact is that if diana crosses her arms, there is little thor can do to harm her. He isn't stronger or faster than her like superman to force her to do one thing at a time, either block energy attacks or physical attacks. Weather conditions are a minor nuisance at best in general and are nothing compared to a lasso snare.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've done that too and I've found them virtually equal. That's not a wrong opinion at all.

Why is that ridiculous? Because you think that way? The fact is that if diana crosses her arms, there is little thor can do to harm her. He isn't stronger or faster than her like superman to force her to do one thing at a time, either block energy attacks or physical attacks. Weather conditions are a minor nuisance at best in general and are nothing compared to a lasso snare.

Not sure how you get virtually equal then.

Diana's defenses aren't infallible for Thor. That's just the reality of the situation. She's been hurt way too many times in comics to assume that if she goes on the defensive Thor has no means to harm her. Anything suggesting the contrary is questionable at best and bordering on ludicrous at worst.

Are you kidding me? His weather control would be a "minor nuisance at best"? Well, it's clear you must not have read the Thor comics I have, then. And nothing compared to a lasso snare?

What comics have you been reading?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Didn't you enter Wonder Woman in the Mid Herald Title Bout?

Unless you've just recently decided to change your mind that Diana is a high herald (which she's not, but okay).

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it is not.

Majestros? Even orion is more skilled than him. Diana is along with majestic at the bottom of HH category.

Majestros vs Wonder Woman can be found here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=523972&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by abhilegend

That would be some imaginary feats. Diana has stalemated the likes of Lady Shiva in combat who then desired to learn amazonian style of fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can beat WW but not for a majority (which is what we are arguing).

Of course he can; he's perfectly capable of it.

Whether he would or not is up for debate, not whether he can, because that would be dumb.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure how you get virtually equal then.

Diana's defenses aren't infallible for Thor. That's just the reality of the situation. She's been hurt way too many times in comics to assume that if she goes on the defensive Thor has no means to harm her. Anything suggesting the contrary is questionable at best and bordering on ludicrous at worst.

Are you kidding me? His weather control would be a "minor nuisance at best"? Well, it's clear you must not have read the Thor comics I have, then. And nothing compared to a lasso snare?

What comics have you been reading?

I said "in general", not Chaos king and Glory version. Then I would be throwing soul rip, limbs cutting, automatic and sentient lasso shit. In general thor's weather control is a minor nuisance for someone with the speed and defenses like diana. The recent thor has even been koed by his own lightning reversed upon him twice which diana can do easily.

What do you read?

Didn't Diana block the Godwave with her bracelets? That's a pretty high end feat there.

Pro Diana side kicking ass.

Lately Marvel ain't giving Thor bags much to work with.

Still think its a great fight.

Edit Finally catching up to New 52 Justice League and I wonder...does New 52 Diana fly? Regular Superman-esque flight? Up to issue 7 and so far seems like Hal is lending a hand to her, bats and flash. Why would they take flight away? Don't tell me the stupid jet is back facepalm

Originally posted by "Id"
Tell you what.

Majestros vs Wonder Woman can be found here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=523972&pagenumber=1

Unless context is being left out. Thats actually embarrassing on Wondys part.

She was supressing her powers or some shit.

Originally posted by Zack Fair

[b]Edit Finally catching up to New 52 Justice League and I wonder...does New 52 Diana fly? Regular Superman-esque flight? Up to issue 7 and so far seems like Hal is lending a hand to her, bats and flash. Why would they take flight away? Don't tell me the stupid jet is back facepalm [/B]

She flies. It would have been better had she not, but they chickened out.

Thor 6-8/10. No fight is easy, but he's the favorite.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Pro Diana side kicking ass.

Lately Marvel ain't giving Thor bags much to work with.

Still think its a great fight.

Even out their speed, and I'd lean towards Thor probably..

I realize Thor isn't slow, but pre New DCU Wonder Woman had examples of racing with Flashes.. Granted, Flashes that were holding back, but I've never seen them pretend race someone that wasn't at least faster then a speeding bullet...

especially these days, I think this is pretty even. Curious how Diana fares on this board.

Thor.

Is it close?

WW is imho the prime Herald level Woman in DC. without her bracers she should win as often as Thor. She won't get the respect, on forums and comics because she is female.

That plays a part. But she also has a bit of a soft record in some respects, even though I feel it has tightened up.

The real problem is that while DC will say she is on par with say Captain Marvel, she is also the one who constantly gets said to be less powerful than Superman. Meanwhile, Marvel often gets shown as his equal. Furthermore, many people feel the Marvel Heralds (Thor, Surfer, Gladiator, etc.) are Superman's equal. So how can a character who is consistently shown to be less powerful than Superman be equal to Herald-level characters who posters feel are equal to Superman.

Thor wins, but Diana fights him for it every step of the way.

Currently i'd put Thor above Superman so,