Kun's got his amulets - massive field advantages that Bane can't defend against and it would hammer through his orbalisk armor. I can see Kun controlling the fight through them, but I'm not going to say he automatically wins.
And I think Sirak being 'more skilled' than Vodo is a bit exaggerated. Vodo was badass enough to duel with a damn stick. His Force strength is obviously superior to Sirak's.
Originally posted by Gideon
Kun's got his amulets - massive field advantages that Bane can't defend against and it would hammer through his orbalisk armor. I can see Kun controlling the fight through them, but I'm not going to say he automatically wins.
What I bolded begs for proof.
1. Where's the proof that Bane can't defend against these blasts?
His speed was uber, he was able to pull off a pretty complex manoeuvre in the blink of an eye, that was fast enough to only register as a blur to trained force users. The speed of the amulet blasts haven't been proven, but I doubt that given how fast Bane is, he'll fall down to them. I mean, people always say that Yoda could dodge them. Well then, why couldn't Bane, who's got superior speed related feats (and I'm counting CW cartoons and the Entire EU on that one btw)?
Bane's strength in the force is immense, I've argued enough for it so I won't say anything too specific right now, but I really don't see how Bane's force shield won't stop an amulet blast.
Now people like to often argue this, but Bane's TK ability is immense, probably less than only that of Luke and Kyp Durron. I really don't see how he's not supposed to just push the blasts back in Kun's face with those same abilities. He was able to quite casually affect an entire moon with his TK ability, would an amulet blast really be a problem?
2. Where's the proof that the amulet blasts would hammer through the orbalisk armour? Not that it matters, as there are gaps in the armour that the blasts can exploit, but I was just wondering why you'd think it could blast through something not even a saber could penetrate.
And I think Sirak being 'more skilled' than Vodo is a bit exaggerated. Vodo was badass enough to duel with a damn stick. His Force strength is obviously superior to Sirak's.
How does dueling with a stick make you badass? Is Yaddle badass too? Vodo has nothing proven for him, and nothing going for him, except experience, which is never the be all end all in SW. Sirak is a proven saber giant, and you can't ignore his feats of speed which enabled him to move in a blur, or his mastery of the saber which was pretty immense (quite a few forms)
Originally posted by Kadesh
Correction, Wheres the proof that bane [B]can defend against them? [/B]
Yay for selective quoting! 😱
Now how about reading a little lower. In fact, I'll repost it for you:
His speed was uber, he was able to pull off a pretty complex manoeuvre in the blink of an eye, that was fast enough to only register as a blur to trained force users. The speed of the amulet blasts haven't been proven, but I doubt that given how fast Bane is, he'll fall down to them. I mean, people always say that Yoda could dodge them. Well then, why couldn't Bane, who's got superior speed related feats (and I'm counting CW cartoons and the Entire EU on that one btw)?
Bane's strength in the force is immense, I've argued enough for it so I won't say anything too specific right now, but I really don't see how Bane's force shield won't stop an amulet blast.
Now people like to often argue this, but Bane's TK ability is immense, probably less than only that of Luke and Kyp Durron. I really don't see how he's not supposed to just push the blasts back in Kun's face with those same abilities. He was able to quite casually affect an entire moon with his TK ability, would an amulet blast really be a problem?
Originally posted by Darth Sex Therapy
thank you kadesh, this moron doesn't get the concept of logical debating. Idiot keeps asking for a negative proof. Stop posting NOobaris you've been pwned.
LOL, you and Kadesh make the most hilarious tag team. 😆
Anyways, clearly you don't get how the whole 'negative' things works. Now if I was the one making a claim, and then after being asked to offer up proof I asked them to prove the negative of what I was saying, then you would have a point. However, he made the claim, and I'm simply asking him to prove up.
Originally posted by Kadesh
no problem, This guy has been watching non-stop bane porn so just ignore him
Dude, if you're gonna copy someone else's jokes, at least copy something funny.
who's got superior speed related feats (and I'm counting CW cartoons and the Entire EU on that one btw)?
Whoa, whoa since when does moving fast one time and being watched by pathetic students not to mention he had to gather the energy equate to matching Yoda in speed? Yoda who as we've seen in the CW cartoons can move as a blur who as we've seen in numerous comics move as a blur one of which being in the Best of Blades, who has had the speed to take on multiple Jedi Masters one of which being a Vaapad master. Seriously where do you get off with that shit?
Seriously get off Banes dick, I still fail to see the appeal of a big, white muscley, bald guy he reminds me of the create a "..." people in video games before you put any actual personality into them.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Meh, Kun.Kamme-Hamme Hah FTW.
Yeah pretty much, that has to be the lamest power in all of Star Wars, its like KJA saw a DBZ dub and said "OMG I wants my uber badass Exar Kun to do thats! And only hims cause he has a ponytail and a scar!" KJA is easily one of if not the worst EU writer.
Whoa, whoa since when does moving fast one time
It's only elaborated into such detail once. That doesn't mean it only happened once.
and being watched by pathetic students
As well as Kas'im and a bunch of other masters...
Kas'im's reflexes were notable, this is incredibly impressive.
not to mention he had to gather the energy equate to matching Yoda in speed?
We've been through his before, and you always make it seem like he gathers darkside energies or something of the sort when he doesn't; he simply unleashes all the anger inside him.
Yoda who as we've seen in the CW cartoons can move as a blur who as we've seen in numerous comics move as a blur one of which being in the Best of Blades, who has had the speed to take on multiple Jedi Masters one of which being a Vaapad master. Seriously where do you get off with that shit?
Not that any of that shit is greater than what Bane can do, but going by the highest form of canon, while Yoda's incredibly fast, he's no Bane. He doesn't move in blurs and he doesn't move faster than the eye can see.
Seriously get off Banes dick
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Bane's not even my favorite character, I just know that Kun is 100% outclassed when up against someone like Bane.
Seriously get off Banes dick, I still fail to see the appeal of a big, white muscley, bald guy he reminds me of the create a "..." people in video games before you put any actual personality into them.
1. You like small guys?
2. Muscles don't appeal to you? You like fatties?
3. Bane's black...
Though I will say that visually, pre orbalisk Bane does look pretty lame, though it was probably more a result of the terrible JvS artwork. The appeal isn't visual (even though Bane with orbalisks looks badass in most pictures. This review says it best.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
I have a pony tail...Maybe I can blast people.
Oh, and Bane could move faster than a few shitty students can see for an instant, good for him. Mace could move faster than Anakin could see for the entirety of his fight with Sidious.
Nice try, Hun.
Kas'im was there... And don't call me Hun, b1tch.
It's only elaborated into such detail once. That doesn't mean it only happened once.
Except we have no reason to believe it happened again.
As well as Kas'im and a bunch of other masters...
Thats great, doesn't change the fact that its just force speed
We've been through his before, and you always make it seem like he gathers darkside energies or something of the sort when he doesn't; he simply unleashes all the anger inside him.
unleashes all the anger inside him = unleashing gathered dark side energy genius. And yes we do always go through this and guess what...I'm always right.
Not that any of that shit is greater than what Bane can do, but going by the highest form of canon, while Yoda's incredibly fast, he's no Bane. He doesn't move in blurs and he doesn't move faster than the eye can see.
(and I'm counting CW cartoons and the Entire EU on that one btw)
Dee dee dee
Going by the highest form of canon Bane doesn't exist.
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Bane's not even my favorite character,
Somehow I find that hard to believe
I just know that Kun is 100% outclassed when up against someone like Bane.
3. Bane's black...
Bane is NOT black that roid head is not a member of the black race, unlike the true ballers of the SW universe namely Revan, Post Suit Vader, Mace Windu, NJO Luke, and Yoda those are strong black men.
Though I will say that visually, pre orbalisk Bane does look pretty lame, though it was probably more a result of the terrible JvS artwork. The appeal isn't visual (even though Bane with orbalisks looks badass in most pictures.
Bane only looks visually appealing in Legacy every other pic of him makes him either look like a CAW, a roid abused, or looking like he's just come home from a gay costume party.
Except we have no reason to believe it happened again.
Why not? He grows much more powerful after that point, and by the time he's accessed Revan's holocron, he's pretty much given himself to the darkside fully.
Thats great, doesn't change the fact that its just force speed
Your point? There's a degree of force speed, and Bane just happens to be able to amp up his speed to a degree beyond almost anybody.
unleashes all the anger inside him = unleashing gathered dark side energy genius. And yes we do always go through this and guess what...I'm always right.
Not in the way you're trying to make it seem like. You've done it before, and you're doing it now, and that is that you're trying to make it seem as if Bane was charging up darkside energies for the entire duel, and just decided to release them at the end. That's not the case. He was simply holding back for the entire duel, and the moment he decided to go full out, that's the kind of fury he was able to produce. I'm right, you're wrong, it's that simple.
(and I'm counting CW cartoons and the Entire EU on that one btw)Dee dee dee
What exactly is your point? You're trying to make it seem like I contradicted myself or something, which is false. I still stated that even the EU BS is still lesser to what Bane was able to produce, but then I slightly changed my stance and decided to make it easy and not accept contradictory EU BS.
Going by the highest form of canon Bane doesn't exist.
Not to mention that what you're saying makes zero sense, GL fully recognises Bane as the first DLOTS...
Somehow I find that hard to believe
I prefer Kas'im, Ulic Quel-Droma, Nomi Sunrider and Bastilla... You don't have to believe me, I don't really care, the only reason it may have seemed like Bane was my favorite is because he's a new character and still one of my favorites while the others were old news, so I was probably hyped up about Bane quite a bit more than the others for a short period of time, given he was fresh and the others had started to lose their touch. Still doesn't change the fact that Ulic will always be my favorite character, with the others closely following behind.
I don't really care.
I know that, I was just explaining why I was going out o m way to defend Bane.
Bane is NOT black that roid head is not a member of the black race, unlike the true ballers of the SW universe namely Revan, Post Suit Vader, Mace Windu, NJO Luke, and Yoda those are strong black men.
True say.
Bane only looks visually appealing in Legacy every other pic of him makes him either look like a CAW, a roid abused, or looking like he's just come home from a gay costume party.
The one in the NEGTC also looks pretty awesome.