Well let's see, he's mentioned in most of the PT novelisation which people seem to consider on par with the movies in terms of canon.
There's this from Bane's wiki article:
The character of Darth Bane, and his creation of the Rule of Two, were created by George Lucas as part of his backstory of the Sith he developed for the prequel trilogy.
But really Subjekt, out of curiosity, why do you even care?
Because if you're going to say that he's officially recognized by GL but he's not even on the OS, it makes me curious. Why do you care if i care?
Maybe, just maybe, it's because you as well as virtually everyone on these boards feel the need to attack my points whenever I post, to the point where I have to reply to everything about 5 times. Surely you can understand how that would be annoying. And before you tell me to just not reply, I like getting the last word in.
Are you the one who dictates what people can an cant inquire about?
Now now Subjekt, haven't we already been through this before? That's right, we have, and it got to the point where I owned you so badly I actually felt sorry for you.I'm actually a little surprised you're so eager for more.
And i thought you always said that Wiki wasn't shit?
10% of the time, it's bullshit. And all I ever said was that relying on wookie is dumb, I never said that wookie as a whole was dumb, because I disagree with that. I know what Wiki's saying right now is 100% true, ergo I'm not relying on it.
Originally posted by allfgSorry to burst your ball sack but you have NEVER and i mean never ever fcuking ever pwned subjeckt at all, By right it is the other way round am i correct? Stupid imbecile you just want to act as if your the "malevolent" internet rebel who is so overly fond of getting his testicles torn off and penis frozen to be used as an iced-dildo to shove it up your arsehole which is as small as a 10 cent coin, O wait it became a 50 cent coin did it not? I thought you got ass raped in a minimum security prison by a guy half your size.Now now Subjekt, haven't we already been through this before? That's right, we have, and it got to the point where I owned you so badly I actually felt sorry for you.I'm actually a little surprised you're so eager for more.
Originally posted by allfgBlah blah blah so if its about vader exar revan or other stuff it aint reliable but if its the 10% it has got to be bane, you are a retarted spastic handicapped sick boy. You constantly have banes dick in your mouth and when ever something proves that guy x > bane, You talk cock sing song play ping pong and use wiki and wookie as your backup toilet roll which again gets shredded by more canon sources.10% of the time, it's bullshit. And all I ever said was that relying on wookie is dumb, I never said that wookie as a whole was dumb, because I disagree with that. I know what Wiki's saying right now is 100% true, ergo I'm not relying on it.
Now shut your hole and pull banes dick out of your mouth
Why not? He grows much more powerful after that point, and by the time he's accessed Revan's holocron, he's pretty much given himself to the darkside fully.
So that means he uses force speed every minute of the damn day? No. And considering he only engages in ONE more proved lightsaber duel in his entire life a duel we the reader witnessed and no mention of Banes "LEET OMG UBAH" speed was made, I'd say its safe to assume it was a one time thing.
Your point? There's a degree of force speed, and Bane just happens to be able to amp up his speed to a degree beyond almost anybody.
Everybody moves as blurs when they use force speed thats nothing new, Luke and Sidious in DE were described as blurs, Mace and Sidious in the ROTS novel were called blurs that even Anakins eyes couldn't follow. I really don't see your point other then your unsupported opinion of leet Bane.
Not in the way you're trying to make it seem like. You've done it before, and you're doing it now, and that is that you're trying to make it seem as if Bane was charging up darkside energies for the entire duel, and just decided to release them at the end. That's not the case. He was simply holding back for the entire duel, and the moment he decided to go full out, that's the kind of fury he was able to produce.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Whips out PoD"He waited till the last possible second before [B]unleashing the energy bottled up inside him in a tremendous rush of power.
He channled it through his muscels and limbs, moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped to the rest of the world....The fury and focus that had turned him into a conduit of the dark side's unstoppable power was gone, replaced by hyperconcious awarness of his physical surrondings." - PoD pg 171You were saying my very intelligent friend 🙄 [/B]
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
"When the Zabraks desperation turned to hopelessness, every impulse in Bane screamed with the desire to take the initiative and end the fight. Instead he let the tantalizing closeness of Siraks defeat feed his appetite for vengeance. [B]The hunger grew with each passing second until it became physical pain tearing away at his insides: The dark side filled him and he felt it on the verge of ripping him apart, splitting his skin and gushing out like a fountain of black blood"You were saying my oh so intelligent friend 🙄 [/B]
As I said before, he didn't just go "Well I think I'll use force speed now" he gathered the dark side just as I pointed out and the longer he held back the more the dark energy grew till the point that when he was about to pop the power he had gathered was unleashed in a massive burst of force speed. Anther passage supports my view, the fact that he was drained afterwards is a testament to the fact that he gathered energy, had it been as you said he wouldn't have been drained and the bloodthirsty rage he had been feeling would have remained.
I'm right, you're wrong, it's that simple.
LOL, like that will ever happen.
What exactly is your point? You're trying to make it seem like I contradicted myself or something, which is false. I still stated that even the EU BS is still lesser to what Bane was able to produce, but then I slightly changed my stance and decided to make it easy and not accept contradictory EU BS.
Nice job at staying consistent! Even still we've also been through this and I (and many others) provided both out of universe explanations and in universe explanations. Yoda's, Mace's and Sidious's speed in the EU does not contradict the movies, and is perfectly admissible in logical debate.
Not to mention that what you're saying makes zero sense, GL fully recognises Bane as the first DLOTS...
Since when does a novel stand on the same level of canon as the movies? Oh thats right never, till you give me an official statement by George Lucas saying he created Bane and that he see's him as the first I'll concede the point, till then I could give a f*ck what Wookiepedia says.
I prefer Kas'im, Ulic Quel-Droma, Nomi Sunrider and Bastilla... You don't have to believe me, I don't really care, the only reason it may have seemed like Bane was my favorite is because he's a new character and still one of my favorites while the others were old news, so I was probably hyped up about Bane quite a bit more than the others for a short period of time, given he was fresh and the others had started to lose their touch. Still doesn't change the fact that Ulic will always be my favorite character, with the others closely following behind.
Whatever.
I know that, I was just explaining why I was going out o m way to defend Bane.
Again, don't care.
The one in the NEGTC also looks pretty awesome.
No, thats the one that makes him look like a gay parade participant.
So that means he uses force speed every minute of the damn day? No. And considering he only engages in ONE more proved lightsaber duel in his entire life a duel we the reader witnessed and no mention of Banes "LEET OMG UBAH" speed was made, I'd say its safe to assume it was a one time thing.
Except there was no need for his speed to be elaborated on at any other point in the book to such a degree. The fact is, Bane grew much more powerful after this point (like 20 times more powerful), so it's ridiculous to assume that he couldn't move much faster, let alone at an on par level of speed.
Everybody moves as blurs when they use force speed thats nothing new,
It's not just that he was able to move in blurs, he was actually able to move at speeds too quick for powerful trained force users to see or react to, so fast that time seemed to literally stop for everyone else. The degree of speed that Bane could move at is pretty much untouchable except by DE Sidious and NJO (and beyond) Luke.
Luke and Sidious in DE were described as blurs, Mace and Sidious in the ROTS novel were called blurs that even Anakins eyes couldn't follow. I really don't see your point other then your unsupported opinion of leet Bane.
Seeing as the whole Mace and Sidious issue contradicts the movies, I'll ignore that. So that just leaves DE Luke (who shouldn't really count given he was being powered up by battle meditation as you yourself recently pointed out) and DE Sidious. So just Sidious actually, who moved at comparable speeds. You see, that's my point, only the top dogs such as Sidious can match Bane in speed, which is what makes it so impressive.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxxWhips out PoD
"He waited till the last possible second before unleashing the energy bottled up inside him in a tremendous rush of power. He channled it through his muscels and limbs, moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped to the rest of the world....The fury and focus that had turned him into a conduit of the dark side's unstoppable power was gone, replaced by hyperconcious awarness of his physical surrondings." - PoD pg 171
You were saying my very intelligent friend 🙄
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
"When the Zabraks desperation turned to hopelessness, every impulse in Bane screamed with the desire to take the initiative and end the fight. Instead he let the tantalizing closeness of Siraks defeat feed his appetite for vengeance. The hunger grew with each passing second until it became physical pain tearing away at his insides: The dark side filled him and he felt it on the verge of ripping him apart, splitting his skin and gushing out like a fountain of black blood"You were saying my oh so intelligent friend 🙄
As I said before, he didn't just go "Well I think I'll use force speed now" he gathered the dark side just as I pointed out and the longer he held back the more the dark energy grew till the point that when he was about to pop the power he had gathered was unleashed in a massive burst of force speed.
No, you're misinterpreting the text completely, and taking it too literally; the darkside in this context isn't the power or energy of the darkside, but the raw emotions associated with it. Bane had simply been holding himself from fighting at his best for the entire duel, when all he wanted to do was demolish Sirak on the spot, and the fact that he had to force himself to be patient was unbearable, and filling him with anger so unbearable that it was almost like 'a physical pain tearing away at his inside.' He then simply chose to release his anger, and give in to the darkside, and that was why he was able to generate those speeds: he was no longer restraining himself. It's not because he was gathering darkside energies, because that's completely false, it's simply because he chose to finally quit holding back.
Anther passage supports my view, the fact that he was drained afterwards is a testament to the fact that he gathered energy, had it been as you said he wouldn't have been drained and the bloodthirsty rage he had been feeling would have remained.
Where is it said that he was drained afterwards?
Anyways I decided to bump this thread because I've noticed that lots of people rate Exar above Bane, and I just don't see why. So, what really puts Exar above Bane?
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Except there was no need for his speed to be elaborated on at any other point in the book to such a degree. The fact is, Bane grew much more powerful after this point (like 20 times more powerful), so it's ridiculous to assume that he couldn't move much faster, let alone at an on par level of speed.
Keep bringing those nice unsupported numbers. Hey...Ulic did go through an "astonishing transformation" after facing Kun. He must have become 200 Billion times more powerful than he was before the duel.
It's not just that he was able to move in blurs, he was actually able to move at speeds too quick for powerful trained force users to see or react to, so fast that time seemed to literally stop for everyone else. The degree of speed that Bane could move at is pretty much untouchable except by DE Sidious and NJO (and beyond) Luke.
And TPM Kenobi, and TPM Qui-Gon, and Naddist Uprising Ulic, and Mace Windu, and RotS Sidious and...shall I really continue this list ?
Seeing as the whole Mace and Sidious issue contradicts the movies, I'll ignore that.
Seeing as you are f*cking retarded to still cling to this stupid notion of utter nonsense I personally wish back times in which children like you were left to perish on windswept crags.
Anyways I decided to bump this thread because I've noticed that lots of people rate Exar above Bane, and I just don't see why. So, what really puts Exar above Bane?
Oh. Let's see:
Force:
a) complete knowledge of everything in terms of Sith Magic and Sith Alchemy including techniques that were wiped from the Galaxy with his death (e.g. the ability to tear the spirit of a force user out of his body)
b) vast amount of raw force power further boosted by his amulet and him being marked by Ragnos (which obviously had the effect that Ulic in terms of power appeared as if he has gone through an "astonishing transformation"😉
c) Deadly Sith amulet with enough power to rip walls apart and exterminate the spirit of Freedon Nadd. Bane's better not being hit with that.
Combat:
a) unique weapon and unique combat style both designed in less than six months. Both totally unfamilar for Bane.
b) master of Makashi, Djem So and Jar'kai at least. The second is Bane's own style, the third is the style Kas'im used to defeat Bane in their nice saber duel. I guess that alone means a damn lot of problems for Bane.
Really. Kun would kick Bane's sorry ass. Either he would come up with force powers that Bane did never even hear a word about and obliterate him or he would trash him in a lightsaber duel.
Keep bringing those nice unsupported numbers. Hey...Ulic did go through an "astonishing transformation" after facing Kun. He must have become 200 Billion times more powerful than he was before the duel.
Well let's see, taking into account the facts that by the time he had performed mentioned feat, he:
1. Was somewhat fatigued and drained.
2. Gains a subsequent two years of training and experience until BotS.
3. Goes through 4 individual major power surges where he literally doubles in power each time - when he finds Revan's holocron, when he finds a jedi holcoron, when he drains that family on Ambria, and when he finds Nadd's holcron.
4. Gains possession of the orbalisk armour, which constantly pumps him up with darkside energies, which would theoretically give him an infinite amount of force reserves depending on how much he stores,
I'd say that the numbers would realistically be on the higher side, I was just saying 20 to be fair, it was much more likely a much higher increase, which makes sense, given how by BotS he can casually move around moons.
And TPM Kenobi, and TPM Qui-Gon, and Naddist Uprising Ulic, and Mace Windu, and RotS Sidious and...shall I really continue this list ?
TPM Kenobi and Jinn don't move so fast that we don't actually see them, they still register on our non force sensitive eyes, so really what point are you trying to make by bringing them up? Ulic only ever appears in comics, lol, aka still media, where time can't really be calculated. Sure he moves in blurs, but faster than the speeds Bane was able to move at? No proof whatsoever for such a claim. Mace Windu and RotS Sidious' speeds contradict the movies, so they don't count, unfortunately.
Seeing as you are f*cking retarded to still cling to this stupid notion of utter nonsense I personally wish back times in which children like you were left to perish on windswept crags.
Ok now don't lose your temper big guy. Take a chill power, sit down, and relax. Let your hair down.
Oh. Let's see:Force:
a) complete knowledge of everything in terms of Sith Magic and Sith Alchemy including techniques that were wiped from the Galaxy with his death (e.g. the ability to tear the spirit of a force user out of his body)
Yeah, since when does force knowledge ever make such a big deal? Bane already knows the entire BoD archives inside out, everything the masters at the academy had to trach via Githany, everything from that jedi holocron he discovered, most of the stuff and more importantly the most important stuff contained in Darth Revan's holocron (which contained of such things like the foce storm, force drain, a number of ancient sith rituals), and as much as he could from Nadd's holocron which by Bane's own admission contained even more than Revan's. Really, they both know enough to the point where who has more knowledge doesn't matter. As long as Bane knows how to attack with the force, defend with the force, and a few other basic tricks, he should be fine. Variety's always nice, but it's not necessary.
b) vast amount of raw force power further boosted by his amulet and him being marked by Ragnos (which obviously had the effect that Ulic in terms of power appeared as if he has gone through an "astonishing transformation"😉
And Bane, being the sith'ari, likely has the greatest force connection for any sith. Let's not also forget the fact that the orbalisks constantly pump him with darkside energies, which theoretically give him an infinite supply of the force to use. Bane > Kun in raw force power.
c) Deadly Sith amulet with enough power to rip walls apart and exterminate the spirit of Freedon Nadd. Bane's better not being hit with that.
Which Bane can replicate the function of to a much greater effect without even needing a fricking amulet to do it and relying on his own power. BTW, the blasts are totally blockable. Given Bane's insane TK abilities (which are greater than the destructive capabilities of the amulet blasts), I wouldn't be surprised if he just pushed the blasts back in Kun's face.
Combat:
a) unique weapon and unique combat style both designed in less than six months. Both totally unfamilar for Bane.
Bane gets the same advantages. He can wield a saberstaff to Kas'im's 7 advanced forms, which is completely unfamiliar to Kun. And what?
b) master of Makashi, Djem So and Jar'kai at least. The second is Bane's own style, the third is the style Kas'im used to defeat Bane in their nice saber duel. I guess that alone means a damn lot of problems for Bane.
LOL, didn't Advent already defeat these points? There's no proof that Kun was even adept with Makashi, according to Advent that piece of info was fabricated. Djem So, I'll give to you, even though I don't recall it being confirmed. Well we know that he at least mastered one form as well as his own, so it doesn't matter which one anyways. Jar'Kai? LOL! I guess Anakin is a master of Jar'Kai too, given he wielded the form to great effect against Dooku on the spot. Yeah, that would be correct if we ignore the fact that wielding a form once, however well you do it, doesn't make you a master of it. Anyways, Bane can perfectly wield the saberstaff, with mastery of every move and sequence there is too the weapon. Advantage: bane.
Really. Kun would kick Bane's sorry ass. Either he would come up with force powers that Bane did never even hear a word about and obliterate him or he would trash him in a lightsaber duel.
Yeah, right. Notice how I haven't even bothered making a case for Bane yet, just addressed your points. As soon as I do, we'll all see just exactly how outmatched Kun is in this case.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
3. Goes through 4 individual major power surges where he literally doubles in power each time - when he finds Revan's holocron, when he finds a jedi holcoron, when he drains that family on Ambria, and when he finds Nadd's holcron.
TPM Kenobi and Jinn don't move so fast that we don't actually see them, they still register on our non force sensitive eyes, so really what point are you trying to make by bringing them up? Ulic only ever appears in comics, lol, aka still media, where time can't really be calculated. Sure he moves in blurs, but faster than the speeds Bane was able to move at? No proof whatsoever for such a claim. Mace Windu and RotS Sidious' speeds contradict the movies, so they don't count, unfortunately.
Yeah, since when does force knowledge ever make such a big deal? Bane already knows the entire BoD archives inside out, everything the masters at the academy had to trach via Githany, everything from that jedi holocron he discovered, most of the stuff and more importantly the most important stuff contained in Darth Revan's holocron (which contained of such things like the foce storm, force drain, a number of ancient sith rituals), and as much as he could from Nadd's holocron which by Bane's own admission contained even more than Revan's. Really, they both know enough to the point where who has more knowledge doesn't matter. As long as Bane knows how to attack with the force, defend with the force, and a few other basic tricks, he should be fine. Variety's always nice, but it's not necessary.
And Bane, being the sith'ari, likely has the greatest force connection for any sith. Let's not also forget the fact that the orbalisks constantly pump him with darkside energies, which theoretically give him an infinite supply of the force to use. Bane > Kun in raw force power.
Which Bane can replicate the function of to a much greater effect without even needing a fricking amulet to do it and relying on his own power. BTW, the blasts are totally blockable. Given Bane's insane TK abilities (which are greater than the destructive capabilities of the amulet blasts), I wouldn't be surprised if he just pushed the blasts back in Kun's face.
Bane gets the same advantages. He can wield a saberstaff to Kas'im's 7 advanced forms, which is completely unfamiliar to Kun. And what?
LOL, didn't Advent already defeat these points? There's no proof that Kun was even adept with Makashi, according to Advent that piece of info was fabricated. Djem So, I'll give to you, even though I don't recall it being confirmed. Well we know that he at least mastered one form as well as his own, so it doesn't matter which one anyways. Jar'Kai? LOL! I guess Anakin is a master of Jar'Kai too, given he wielded the form to great effect against Dooku on the spot. Yeah, that would be correct if we ignore the fact that wielding a form once, however well you do it, doesn't make you a master of it. Anyways, Bane can perfectly wield the saberstaff, with mastery of every move and sequence there is too the weapon. Advantage: bane.
Yeah, right. Notice how I haven't even bothered making a case for Bane yet, just addressed your points. As soon as I do, we'll all see just exactly how outmatched Kun is in this case. [/B]
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Well let's see, taking into account the facts that by the time he had performed mentioned feat, he:1. Was somewhat fatigued and drained.
2. Gains a subsequent two years of training and experience until BotS.
3. Goes through 4 individual major power surges where he literally doubles in power each time - when he finds Revan's holocron, when he finds a jedi holcoron, when he drains that family on Ambria, and when he finds Nadd's holcron.
4. Gains possession of the orbalisk armour, which constantly pumps him up with darkside energies, which would theoretically give him an infinite amount of force reserves depending on how much he stores,
I'd say that the numbers would realistically be on the higher side, I was just saying 20 to be fair, it was much more likely a much higher increase, which makes sense, given how by BotS he can casually move around moons.
Anakin doubled in power from AotC to RotS. He's the guy with most potential ever and this is only according to his words. It still took him 3 years. So...hmm...I guess your numbers are still ridiculous. And I'm right with that guess.
TPM Kenobi and Jinn don't move so fast that we don't actually see them, they still register on our non force sensitive eyes, so really what point are you trying to make by bringing them up? Ulic only ever appears in comics, lol, aka still media, where time can't really be calculated. Sure he moves in blurs, but faster than the speeds Bane was able to move at? No proof whatsoever for such a claim. Mace Windu and RotS Sidious' speeds contradict the movies, so they don't count, unfortunately.
I love it. Really. We handed you the fact that the movies don't contradict the EU speeds multiple times now. Why do you simply refuse that information ? You can't be THAT stupid and ignorant.
Ok now don't lose your temper big guy. Take a chill power, sit down, and relax. Let your hair down.
I'm totally relaxed. That doesn't change my oppinion that people like you are just - without justification - breathing my precious air. To me you're just an example of carbon based wastage.
Yeah, since when does force knowledge ever make such a big deal? Bane already knows the entire BoD archives inside out, everything the masters at the academy had to trach via Githany, everything from that jedi holocron he discovered, most of the stuff and more importantly the most important stuff contained in Darth Revan's holocron (which contained of such things like the foce storm, force drain, a number of ancient sith rituals), and as much as he could from Nadd's holocron which by Bane's own admission contained even more than Revan's. Really, they both know enough to the point where who has more knowledge doesn't matter. As long as Bane knows how to attack with the force, defend with the force, and a few other basic tricks, he should be fine. Variety's always nice, but it's not necessary.
Let me again type this down for you. The BoD archieves were constructed from a single Sith holocron. If anything they were just scrapes of what remained of Kun's own knowledge. There is no way that Bane came close to the amount of knowledge Kun had in his hands and in his head. And how the hell is Bane going to defend against force attack from Exar Kun. Like: Technique that tore Luke's spirit from his body. A technique that even Luke didn't know any defence against. Sith amulet. Both coming from a guy who's weakend, half-mad spirit was capable of force choking about ten people at the same time. Hmm...
And Bane, being the sith'ari, likely has the greatest force connection for any sith. Let's not also forget the fact that the orbalisks constantly pump him with darkside energies, which theoretically give him an infinite supply of the force to use. Bane > Kun in raw force power.
Nope. The legend of the Sith'ari doesn't talk about force connection or power. So stop coming up with that bullshit. Kun's amulet increases his hatred (and thereby his power) thousands of time. Stated by the omniscient narrator. Really. Kun outright managed to escape a wall of light attack that was formed by several thousands of Jedi. Bane is a joke compared to that.
Which Bane can replicate the function of to a much greater effect without even needing a fricking amulet to do it and relying on his own power. BTW, the blasts are totally blockable. Given Bane's insane TK abilities (which are greater than the destructive capabilities of the amulet blasts), I wouldn't be surprised if he just pushed the blasts back in Kun's face.
Since when can force energy (immaterial) be affected via TK ? Assclown. Aside of the fact we never saw this "totally blockable" blasts being blocked.
Bane gets the same advantages. He can wield a saberstaff to Kas'im's 7 advanced forms, which is completely unfamiliar to Kun. And what?
There are no "advanced" seven form. Get it into your head. Even then, Bane didn't master them. Purely form V. And Kun did INVENT the freaking saberstaff. Got that now ?
LOL, didn't Advent already defeat these points? There's no proof that Kun was even adept with Makashi, according to Advent that piece of info was fabricated. Djem So, I'll give to you, even though I don't recall it being confirmed. Well we know that he at least mastered one form as well as his own, so it doesn't matter which one anyways. Jar'Kai? LOL! I guess Anakin is a master of Jar'Kai too, given he wielded the form to great effect against Dooku on the spot. Yeah, that would be correct if we ignore the fact that wielding a form once, however well you do it, doesn't make you a master of it. Anyways, Bane can perfectly wield the saberstaff, with mastery of every move and sequence there is too the weapon. Advantage: bane.
Ok, dipshit.
a) Kun is shown to wield his double-blade one-handed. The only one-handed combat style in the SW universe is. DAMN. MAKASHI ! No shit. Aside of that the inventor of the lightsaber forms lists Kun as Maksahi user. So ?
b) His duel against Ulic: Clearly Djem So.
c) Ah well. Kun utilized Jar'kai good enough to defeat a 600 year old Jedi Master. Where Kun managed to keep two blades in hand against Dooku how long exactly ? 5 seconds ?
Yeah, right. Notice how I haven't even bothered making a case for Bane yet, just addressed your points. As soon as I do, we'll all see just exactly how outmatched Kun is in this case.
Oh yeah. Give me your cheap entertainment, dude. Make one of your infamous Bane arguments again. Have it torn apart again. Really. We can use the EOD debate and quote it. I'm bored to own your sorry ass over and over again. It's not even fun since your IQ happens to be below that of a dead jellyfish.
Anakin doubled in power from AotC to RotS. He's the guy with most potential ever and this is only according to his words. It still took him 3 years. So...hmm...I guess your numbers are still ridiculous. And I'm right with that guess.
Except potential has nothing to do with how quickly you progress. So you fail again, unlucky.
I love it. Really. We handed you the fact that the movies don't contradict the EU speeds multiple times now. Why do you simply refuse that information ? You can't be THAT stupid and ignorant.
Yeah, and I went over the link again the other day, and Lightsnake phrased the question extremely strangely, it's likely Leland Chan didn't know what he was saying. The facts are: The movies are the highest form of canon. The movies are not theatre adaption, but visual mediums with the purpose of perfectly showing what happens in the story. In other words, arguing that Mace and Sidious weren't moving as slowly as they were shown to be in the movie is arguing against canon.
I'm totally relaxed. That doesn't change my oppinion that people like you are just - without justification - breathing my precious air. To me you're just an example of carbon based wastage.
Really? The 'whoopies' in the other thread suggest otherwise. Seriously dude, calm down, control yourself, and stop jumping around like a raving madman.
Let me again type this down for you. The BoD archieves were constructed from a single Sith holocron. If anything they were just scrapes of what remained of Kun's own knowledge. There is no way that Bane came close to the amount of knowledge Kun had in his hands and in his head. And how the hell is Bane going to defend against force attack from Exar Kun. Like: Technique that tore Luke's spirit from his body. A technique that even Luke didn't know any defence against. Sith amulet. Both coming from a guy who's weakend, half-mad spirit was capable of force choking about ten people at the same time. Hmm...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm........ Maybe, just maybe, he'll use a force shield, like he does for defending against every other offensive technique used against him, silly one. The force shield is a universal defence, it's function is to defend against any force based attacks, and it would be sufficient a defence in this instance.
Nope. The legend of the Sith'ari doesn't talk about force connection or power. So stop coming up with that bullshit.
What don't you get about 'perfect power, perfect strength, perfect destiny?' What don't you get about 'near perfect and immortal being?' What don't you get about 'ultimate sith, a sort of sith chosen one?' Really Nai, learn to read, you've been spending way too much time jumping around screaming 'Whoopie,' PAY MORE ATTENTION!!!
Kun's amulet increases his hatred (and thereby his power) thousands of time. Stated by the omniscient narrator. Really.
Where the hell does it say thousands of times? from what I remember, it doubled, provide proof or stop talking rubbish.
Kun outright managed to escape a wall of light attack that was formed by several thousands of Jedi. Bane is a joke compared to that.
Where's the proof for this? Only a select few of the Jedi even knew the wall of light technique.
Since when can force energy (immaterial) be affected via TK ? Assclown. Aside of the fact we never saw this "totally blockable" blasts being blocked.
Yeah, where the hell is it said that the amulet blasts are immaterial? That's complete rubbish. And the reason we never see them being blocked is because they were only ever used against people who suck. There's a reason why Kun didn't use them against ulic, you know, and it's because they're not as uber as you see to think.
There are no "advanced" seven form. Get it into your head. Even then, Bane didn't master them. Purely form V. And Kun did INVENT the freaking saberstaff. Got that now ?
Actually it was directly stated by the omniscient narrator that he knew every move and sequence to the saberstaff perfectly. And yes, there are 'advanced forms', Kas'im perfected and completed all seven standard forms (what Mace did to Juyo, except kas'im did it to all the forms). And so what Kun invented the saberstaff? the knowledge of how he did so presumably died with him, so clearly it was (along with a style) created again with no prior knowledge to work from, thus it would be completely different to Kun's. Thus, Bane's form is as alien to Kun as Kun's is to Bane.
Ok, dipshit.a) Kun is shown to wield his double-blade one-handed. The only one-handed combat style in the SW universe is. DAMN. MAKASHI ! No shit. Aside of that the inventor of the lightsaber forms lists Kun as Maksahi user. So ?
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Yeah, right. Now as you just mentioned, the form was the one Kun used with his saberstaff, which he made, so it definitely can't have been Makashi. Unless you'd go as far as to propose that Kun invented Makashi. Doublebladed style!! [Nai]Yipee!!![/Nai]
b) His duel against Ulic: Clearly Djem So.
LOL! Yeah, if I actually cared whether he had mastered Djem So or not (I don't, because it doesn't matter), I'm thinking I might not be trusting your comicbook analysing skills anytime too soon. Sorry. 🙁
c) Ah well. Kun utilized Jar'kai good enough to defeat a 600 year old Jedi Master. Where Kun managed to keep two blades in hand against Dooku how long exactly ? 5 seconds ?
Right, except for the fact that it wasn't his prowess which gave him the win, but the fact that Vodo's stick couldn't handle two blades. But anyways, I don't care if he was good with the form, he was still never a master of it. It's not like he'd use it in a fight anyways, what with his saberstaff, so it's all irrelevant anyways.
Oh yeah. Give me your cheap entertainment, dude. Make one of your infamous Bane arguments again. Have it torn apart again. Really. We can use the EOD debate and quote it. I'm bored to own your sorry ass over and over again. It's not even fun since your IQ happens to be below that of a dead jellyfish.
Yeah, I really don't need to, I'm fine with defeating every one of your points as I get through them, it's much funner this way, and less energy consuming!! 😱