Deathstroke Vs Blade

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1400lbs is albost twice as much as 800lbs, as in, not close at all.

that's like if a handbook listed spiderman as being a 10 tonner...and he lifts something that's 12 tons in a comic, nobody is gonna bat an eye and say that the handbook is totally off because you understand it is giving you a estimate

now if spiderman lifts something 30 tons, then you know either the handbook is wrong or that the writer who gave him the 30 ton feat is shitty

Originally posted by Trackz
blade has been in less books, but many of those feats are ambiguous and hard to say if they do in fact exceed a ton

I know, but Blade has still been in quite a lot of books, yet he still has only 3 strength showings that support in any way his superhuman status. I could just as well say the same thing. 😬

They are only ambigous in that we don't know their exact weight. They are still very very heavy and can be seen to require well over 800lbs of lifting strength. If you applied the same logic to Blade's feats he would be in serious trouble.

Anyway here is cap launching a man a very long distance casually with one arm.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/740/captainamericav4022homejr7.jpg

Strength and durability feat. Notice how far he jumps down, then with the aid of his shield takes the weight of the missiles lift off.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9362/capiii12p24za3.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3973/capiii12p25zr7.jpg

Not sure if this has been posted.Totally rips through a large built for combat robot.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2255/capiii13p1448fa0365vx8.jpg

Slade v Blade then?

lol

Now that we settled Blade is stronger than Cap we can move in now I agree.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Now that we settled Blade is stronger than Cap we can move in now I agree.

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Please bump the Cap v Blade thread and continue your trolling there. Also post some on panel feats to back up your claim as opposed to your tales of writing to the marvel bio writers who by the way couldn't be more wrong.

Originally posted by Warrior18
800lbs is what the bios say he can do with MAXIMUM effort for one rep with full concentration. Yet we see Cap curling 500lbs continuously while speaking to someone else after performing complex gymnastics during training. He can lift more than 800lbs.

You are getting bogged down on this feat and haven't commented on the whole host of other feats which put him at well over his handbook level.

Hes also lifted Big Bertha who weighs just under 800lbs and threw her.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes also lifted Big Bertha who weighs just under 800lbs and threw her.

Nice one. I'd completely forgotten about that one. 👆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That example of Cap curling 500lbs is from the brief period where he lost the powers from his SSS, wasn't it?

No he just lost superhuman strength. The whole problem is that it states on panel that he doesnt have superhuman strength while actually lifting a superhuman amount, thats comics for you.

Originally posted by Warrior18
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Please bump the Cap v Blade thread and continue your trolling there. Also post some on panel feats to back up your claim as opposed to your tales of writing to the marvel bio writers who by the way couldn't be more wrong.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes also lifted Big Bertha who weighs just under 800lbs and threw her.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How do you know she weighs 800lbs? 😖hifty:

Im not being bad, but I kinda explained this. You can use bios by default, for example if a bio states that somebody can lift 800lbs then thats fine. However if lots of proof in comics indicates that he can lift more we reject that.

Bios dont get everything wrong but they do get strength levels wrong....alot.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Did you ever answer my question? Who is stronger in your view and don't give me a bs answer. I don't care who you think is stronger and I won't even attack you like you are attacking me I'd just like to know.

I not this isnt to me but I thought id respond. I think Blade is stronger because he is actually called superhuman in his bio. However I think Cap still has superhuman strength because hes shown it many times.

Since Blade is called superhuman I give him the benefit of the doubt but he would only be slightly stronger imo.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not being bad, but I kinda explained this. You can use bios by default, for example if a bio states that somebody can lift 800lbs then thats fine. However if lots of proof in comics indicates that he can lift more we reject that.

Bios dont get everything wrong but they do get strength levels wrong....alot.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Comic bios say Colossus weighs 500lbs. Comics have stated he weighs 500lbs and others said he was to weigh over a ton so comics are very insonsistent as well.

I edited my previous post.

It doesnt matter if its inconsistent comics are the 'real world' in which bios are based.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
However I think Cap still has superhuman strength because hes shown it many times.

Originally posted by Warrior18
I know, but Blade has still been in quite a lot of books, yet he still has only 3 strength showings that support in any way his superhuman status. I could just as well say the same thing. 😬

They are only ambigous in that we don't know their exact weight. They are still very very heavy and can be seen to require well over 800lbs of lifting strength. If you applied the same logic to Blade's feats he would be in serious trouble.

Anyway here is cap launching a man a very long distance casually with one arm.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/740/captainamericav4022homejr7.jpg

Strength and durability feat. Notice how far he jumps down, then with the aid of his shield takes the weight of the missiles lift off.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9362/capiii12p24za3.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3973/capiii12p25zr7.jpg

Not sure if this has been posted.Totally rips through a large built for combat robot.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2255/capiii13p1448fa0365vx8.jpg

see...we don't know how much strength any of those require, for all we know all of those could take 800 pound strength, I'm just saying we can't be positive.

Originally posted by Warrior18
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Please bump the Cap v Blade thread and continue your trolling there. Also post some on panel feats to back up your claim as opposed to your tales of writing to the marvel bio writers who by the way couldn't be more wrong.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But Cap already stated on panel that he don't have superhuman strength. 😉

I know, comics dont always make sense though. The fact is looking at that feat and others you can make a decent argument that he has superhuman strength.

As far as I can remember Marvel universe has stated that superhuman strength starts at over 1000lbs. Even if he cant lift 1 ton he most likely could lift 1500lbs and accoridng to marvel universe thats superhuman strength.

So Captain Americas statement is a contradiction.

Actually anything over 800lbs. is superhuman strength.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually anything over 800lbs. is superhuman strength.

Well regardless I dont see how that helps your case. Cap was working out with a superhuman amount of weight while saying he doesnt have superhuman strength. Obvoulsy we ignore his statement.

Originally posted by Trackz
see...we don't know how much strength any of those require, for all we know all of those could take 800 pound strength, I'm just saying we can't be positive.

If he can curl 500lbs after doing gymnastic he can lift over 800lbs. He also lifted Big Bertha and threw her she weighs just under 800lbs