Originally posted by Robtard
We're also able to eat shit. We can eat it. Shit... That doesn't mean we should though as it's not good for us.
Wait...at least let me destroy the point! It's no fun when you do it yourself.
Originally posted by Robtard
Point is and more correctly, we are designed to eat meat so it isn't bad for us (if done healthy).
Let's stop for a minute.
The debate was 'meat is essential'.
Now it's, what? We are able to eat meat, so if we eat it, healthily, it is healthy?
Is meat essential?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's just balls though, isn't it? Because the news is full of people who binge on food and suffer the consequences. Just because you SAY you don't, doesn't mean that regulating your diet isn't more sensible. It is, I don't see how anybody could say anything else.You think vegetarians go around eating plants? Are you that thick?
I'll say it again; Everything that's necessary in meat, you can factually get either in dairy or supplement form as previously stated, and lead a very healthy life. It's not theory, it's fact.
It's not essential. Not sure why you believe it is.
-AC
You're making assumptions again. I was stating that vegetarians have to regulate their diets in order to maintain healthy nutrition. No more digressions please?
I also stated that you can get some of these nutrients from dairy, but it does require a larger consumption in order to obtain the same amounts as you would get from consuming a smaller portion of meat, so no, I did not state that I think vegetarians only eat plants. That's just another assumption made by you. No more digressions please?
It is essential to being naturally healthy. No more misstatements please?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, you say that because it happens to contain some good things. These can be acquired elsewhere, avoiding the negatives of meat and therefore be althogether healthier.I hadn't seen that, if I had, I wouldn't have posted it, my bad.
I can. You're just harping on about meat for no reason.
That doesn't make my point pointless.
-AC
For the 10th (or so) time I agree that you can get protein etc. elsewhere... That isn't the point I'm making. Point is meat isn't empirically bad for you, yes, some meats are very unhealthy and eating too much meat isn't healthy either; that doesn't take away that meat isn't bad for humans and we are designed to breakdown and process it. On that note, a bad/unbalanced vegetarian diet is bad for you too. So it boils down to "healthy diet" which can (not have to) include meat.
No worries then.
Because the tone of the discussion has slyly turned into a "negative about eating meat"
I added/edited: "And in some cases people who do eat meat are healthier than vegetarians; so what's the point in saying the opposite?" while you were replying.
If your stance simply is "meat isn't essential" and you're not going on about negatives and wrongdoings of eating meat, as noted, I agree; people can live without meat.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
You're making assumptions again. I was stating that vegetarians have to regulate their diets in order to maintain healthy nutrition. No more digressions please?
Yes, and that's precisely why it's smarter to do that as opposed to going crazy with food. So why you're making the odd assumption that A) It isn't and B) Anyone who does is subjected to horrible side effects, is just silly.
I know vegetarians who eat casually, but stick to a clear diet. It doesn't mean it has to be nazi-esque.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
I also stated that you can get some of these nutrients from dairy, but it does require a larger consumption in order to obtain the same amounts as you would get from consuming a smaller portion of meat, so no, I did not state that I think vegetarians only eat plants. That's just another assumption made by you. No more digressions please?
Based on what? Where on Earth are you getting this info and can you prove it? Because pharmacies wouldn't sell supplements for vegetarians if they weren't substantial would they?
Originally posted by AngryManatee
It is essential to being naturally healthy. No more misstatements please?
It's not, it's been factually proven.
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Wait...at least let me destroy the point! It's no fun when you do it yourself.Let's stop for a minute.
The debate was 'meat is essential'.
Now it's, what? We are able to eat meat, so if we eat it, healthily, it is healthy?
Is meat essential?
What point? I said "shit" was bad for you, are you equating meat with shit or saying meat is bad for you?
That's how it started but it ever so slyly moved towards 'meat being bad, wrong, negative etc.'
I already agreed several post above that meat isn't essential, as vegetarians do survive.
Originally posted by Robtard
For the 10th (or so) time I agree that you can get protein etc. elsewhere... That isn't the point I'm making. Point is meat isn't empirically bad for you, yes, some meats are very unhealthy and eating too much meat isn't healthy either; that doesn't take away that meat isn't bad for humans and we are designed to breakdown and process it. On that note, a bad/unbalanced vegetarian diet is bad for you. So it boils down to "healthy diet" which can (not have to) include meat.
And why is that your point? Considering this debate is about meat being essential. Is it your point because you don't have another one?
Originally posted by Robtard
Because the tone of the discussion has slyly turned into a "negative about eating meat"
That doesn't make my point pointless, though.
Originally posted by Robtard
I added/edited: "And in some cases people who do eat meat are healthier than vegetarians; so what's the point in saying the opposite?" while you were replying.
Because if you break it down, as you're so fond of doing, a balanced vegetarian diet is the healthiest diet.
Originally posted by Robtard
If your stance simply is "meat isn't essential" and you're not going on about negatives and wrongdoings of eating meat, as noted, I agree; people can live without meat.
Well it is technically about negatives of eating meat too.
-AC
Originally posted by Robtard
Wait for what? I said "shit" was bad for you, are you equating meat with shit or saying meat is bad for you?
I just wonder what you presumed to achieve by pointing out that we can eat meat. So what?
Originally posted by Robtard
I already agreed several post above that meat isn't essential, as vegetarians do survive.
That is the current point of debate.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I know vegetarians who eat casually, but stick to a clear diet. It doesn't mean it has to be nazi-esque.Based on what? Where on Earth are you getting this info and can you prove it? Because pharmacies wouldn't sell supplements for vegetarians if they weren't substantial would they?
It's not, it's been factually proven.
-AC
I never said it had to be nazi-esque. No more assumptions please?
My information comes from My Cellular and Molecular Biology class and textbok, and also my Physical Anthropology class and textbook. Pharmacists do sell supplements, but studies have shown that supplements aren't as readily absorbed as when consumed naturally. I stated this before.
It is essential to being naturally healthy (i.e. recieving all necessary nutrients through the consumption of organic substances rather than artificial supplements, which many vegetarians require to maintatin a healthy diet).
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And why is that your point? Considering this debate is about meat being essential. Is it your point because you don't have another one?That doesn't make my point pointless, though.
Because if you break it down, as you're so fond of doing, a balanced vegetarian diet is the healthiest diet.
Well it is technically about negatives of eating meat too.
-AC
You're the one with the "negatives about meat", e.g. your link. If you had kept it merely at "meat isn't essential" and the debate hadn't moved I wouldn't be replying as I agreed that people can live without meat.
You replied to the wrong part with the "Doesn't make my point pointless"
Talk about B.S. and being utterly lead by your own subjective views... A TRUE balanced diet contains meat, if eating meat was truly bad for humans, then evolution wouldn't have designed us to do so. Please show where science has proven vegetarianism is the "healthiest".
Then technially the debate did change from just "is meat essential as it changed from the original "Horse as food" bit.