WM Thor VS Doomsday

Originally posted by quanchi112
Continued.

Superman rains more attacks over Doomsday here.

The point of all of these scans are to show that Doomsday is being greatly exaggerated here. This is a weaker Superman with a motherbox amp here. Doomsday only quickly defeated Darkseid. This partly was because of the cheap shot he landed on Ds from behind. These other characters were able to counter Doomsday. As would Thor even if he wasnt able to land the first strike. I even showed you scans of Doomsday ignoring Superman because he knew he wasnt a threat. He coul dhave the same approach when battling Thor. He is no where near as relentless as some people claim him to be.

Thor bfr's him easily.

So scans showing the Radiant (who gets horribly owned) and amped Superman (who Thor is nowhere as fast as) are supposed to prove your case?

Funny, considering it took Superman, Waverider, and a motherbox to BFR Doomsday. I like how you leave details out...

How about you show some scansof the current Thor, who has done more brawling than anything else?

DD for the win.

Originally posted by Avlon
So scans showing the Radiant (who gets horribly owned) and amped Superman (who Thor is nowhere as fast as) are supposed to prove your case?

Funny, considering it took Superman, Waverider, and a motherbox to BFR Doomsday. I like how you leave details out...

How about you show some scansof the current Thor, who has done more brawling than anything else?

DD for the win.

But, I didnt say that Thor would beat him up physically only that hed have more than enough time to bfr Doomsday. Radion and Superman both landed in plenty of attacks before Doomsday countered. Radion even easily broke free from Doomsday's grasp. He easily bfr's him.

Again you are trying to downplay Thor. Thor fights to the best of his abilities and bfr's him.

then came the part where dd slaughtered radiant by literally cancelling out his energy. same type of thing happened to waverider when he tried using a temporal type of attack on dd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday was also bfr'd earlier in that story.

Sure, by a combination of Superman distracting him and Desaad opening a Boomtube behind Doomsday.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But, I didnt say that Thor would beat him up physically only that hed have more than enough time to bfr Doomsday. Radion and Superman both landed in plenty of attacks before Doomsday countered. Radion even easily broke free from Doomsday's grasp. He easily bfr's him.

Never said you did. Superman and Radient also got pwned..and Supes used Superspeed and a combination of attacks. Thor is still by far slower than Doomsday..and as you even mentioned that they are fighting at the best of their ability...

How many fights do you see Thor starting with BFR...it sure would have come handy against Red Hulk...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again you are trying to downplay Thor. Thor fights to the best of his abilities and bfr's him.

You said it..best of abilities...DD is far faster, stronger, and more deadly than Thor. He'll be on the floor getting his skull rocked before he even gets a chance to do anything.

DD for the win.

Originally posted by Avlon
Sure, by a combination of Superman distracting him and Desaad opening a Boomtube behind Doomsday.

Never said you did. Superman and Radient also got pwned..and Supes used Superspeed and a combination of attacks. Thor is still by far slower than Doomsday..and as you even mentioned that they are fighting at the best of their ability...

How many fights do you see Thor starting with BFR...it sure would have come handy against Red Hulk...

You said it..best of abilities...DD is far faster, stronger, and more deadly than Thor. He'll be on the floor getting his skull rocked before he even gets a chance to do anything.

DD for the win.

Yes,Thor has lost battles before without bfring someone. Doomsday also didnt use any superspeed in this story so why does he get it? You ignored any other Doomsday example outside this story so why are you allowed to use superspeed here? That coupled with the fact that he didnt use it one time in this story.

When did Supes use superspeed? He flew over him. Thor could fly over him and bfr him. Radion got beat but not before he landed a multitude of attacks. Thor>Radion as well. Superman was injured but after he landed a multitude of attacks as well. This was also a much weaker Superman than the current day Supes.

Thor bfr's him easily. There is no reason to think he doesnt.

How does having to push someone into a boomtube mean they can't be BFR'd?

Thor's is direct, the boomtube's wasn't.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
EXACTLY. 1993 standards. Superman couldn't break light speed even when flying, neither could Wally West. And the only ones who actually did comment on his speed were Booster Gold and Guy Gardner. Wow. Call the superspeed police. Do you know how many times Hulk has caught people off-guard with his speed? Hell, Northstar and Nova were getting their butts handed to them by an alien because of his speed and Professor Hulk owned him off-panel. You don't see the most rabid of Hulk fanboys claiming he has superspeed.

Please. Fighting Superman, ESPECIALLY Byrne Superman, does not automatically give you superspeed on par with current Superman, etc. The Flashes, Majestic, Hyperion, Gladiator... these jerks have bonified super-speed. Not Doomsday. In any incarnation. Ever. He was never streaking around, he was never pummeling with dozens of fists in a single panel. He was faster than his size suggested. A lot faster. But hardly superspeed faster.

Thor 9/10.

Maxima also commented on Doomsday's speed in DOS. Of course I would not think that Doomsday is as fast as Surfer or the current Superman but if DOS were written in today's time, I am pretty sure he would be much much faster than in 1993. Did not Wonderwoman state that Gog Wars Doomsday was extrememly fast as well?

In H/P, Superman was more powerful than before he died at the hands of Doomsday. Then add motherbox and that is one very powerful Superman. This shows you really how powerful Doomsday was.

Doomsday does have speed to be reckoned with. I am not saying he can run the speed of light but I am assuming if you are on earth, you cannot go lightspeed or you risk destroying the planet.

Remember when Doomsday was being created and there were creatures who kept on killing him. These creatures who survived in the harsh environment were said to have something to the effect of formidable speed. I am pretty sure when Doomsday finally evolved to overcome them, he gained their speed as well. It is in Hunter/Prey.

Flash ran at supersonic levels during the time of DOS, so Doomsday pretty much did too. Would WM Thor be too much for DOS Doomsday, I would say so. HP is a different story. No matter how you put it, Doomsday does have superspeed in both running and fighting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Point is he was bfr'd twice in that story. In a forum battle Darkseid doesnt have to fight him and can easily bfr him. He didnt do so in the comic,but we know he obviously can in a forum battle.

Again you ignore the point... It took multiple opponents practically every time and Thor is far slower than Doomsday. He'll be on defensive a lot more than offensive...which is the kiss of death in this battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes,Thor has lost battles before without bfring someone. Doomsday also didnt use any superspeed in this story so why does he get it? You ignored any other Doomsday example outside this story so why are you allowed to use superspeed here? That coupled with the fact that he didnt use it one time in this story.

The only one ignoring facts is you, and even trying deception wasn't below you. Thor doesn't just go and bfr automatically and even if he did, it's not instant. DD isn't just going to stand there..he's going to pummel Thor.

In DD wars he owned Wonder Woman effortlessly with her own lasso and simultaneously beat the league.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Supes use superspeed? He flew over him. Thor could fly over him and bfr him. Radion got beat but not before he landed a multitude of attacks. Thor>Radion as well. Superman was injured but after he landed a multitude of attacks as well. This was also a much weaker Superman than the current day Supes.

Perhaps you mean the Radient? DD barely perceived Radient as a threat. Since this is a vs thread...DD is already aware and could easily cross the space between him and Thor in no time with attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor bfr's him easily. There is no reason to think he doesnt.

Sure, if you ignore all the facts, which you tend to do.

DD. The Only one that loses is DOS DD.

Originally posted by ToughMind
Flash ran at supersonic levels during the time of DOS, so Doomsday pretty much did too. Would WM Thor be too much for DOS Doomsday, I would say so. HP is a different story. No matter how you put it, Doomsday does have superspeed in both running and fighting.

Doomsday has been BFR'ed a bunch of times, including H/P. The math isn't hard to see. Is it cheap? Yes. But that's not the point of the thread.

Originally posted by Avlon
Again you ignore the point... It took multiple opponents practically every time and Thor is far slower than Doomsday. He'll be on defensive a lot more than offensive...which is the kiss of death in this battle.

The only one ignoring facts is you, and even trying deception wasn't below you. Thor doesn't just go and bfr automatically and even if he did, it's not instant. DD isn't just going to stand there..he's going to pummel Thor.

In DD wars he owned Wonder Woman effortlessly with her own lasso and simultaneously beat the league.

Perhaps you mean the Radient? DD barely perceived Radient as a threat. Since this is a vs thread...DD is already aware and could easily cross the space between him and Thor in no time with attacks.

Sure, if you ignore all the facts, which you tend to do.

Doomsday failed to pummel Radion,Darkseid,and Superman before they could get in an attack. The only reason he beat Darkseid so quickly is that he attacked Darkseid from behind. Thor coul dfly above him fo rthe ultra easy bfr.

We arent talking about wars Doomsday, we are only using hunter and prey. You cant have it both ways.

DD still attacked Radiant and Radiant easily broke free. He lacked the power t finish Doomsday this time but not before attacking him multiple times.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doomsday never encountered Flash in Death of Superman. The only reason Flash gets tied up in the silly Doomsday-speed-ranking-game is because Booster Gold said so. Doesn't matter. Quicksilver runs at supersonic speed too, Hermes is the god of speed in Marvel as well, even battling Makkari of the Eternals. Thor's dealt with both of them. H/P Doomsday never showed any degree of superspeed beyond their levels.

Doomsday has been BFR'ed a bunch of times, including H/P. The math isn't hard to see. Is it cheap? Yes. But that's not the point of the thread.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor isn't the type to BFR. Especially in warrior madness mode now is he?

complete difference. Sundip does not induce a known berserker state in Superman. WM Thor is just that, a berserker.

7/10 thor WM

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor BFR's. A lot. Probably more than any hero in Marvel actually. And arguing he won't BFR while in warrior madness mode is like arguing that Superman won't use heat vision, intangibility, freeze breath, x-ray vision, etc. while he's sun-dipped. Just because he doesn't do so, doesn't mean he can't or won't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Continued.

Superman rains more attacks over Doomsday here.

Wow, this certainly seems to brings DD's threat level to new lows...especially against Thor/Superman types. 😕

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
complete difference. Sundip does not induce a known berserker state in Superman. WM Thor is just that, a berserker.