WM Thor VS Doomsday

Started by quanchi1125 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
OWAW sundip Superman had a very tough time controlling the primal emotions and strain induced on his consciousness. It is one of the aspects of Our Worlds At War that impressed me the most. He could barely think rational thoughts until Imperiex made contact with him. If you are referring to Blood and Thunder Thor, you'd be wrong. He wasn't a simple berserker. If you're referring to traditional Warrior Madness, you may have a point. But you'd still need to prove it.
Most on here are under the false impression that blood and thunder Thor had warrior madness. That simply isnt the case.

WM Thor takes this.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
WM Thor takes this.

Go Thor go. Over the top brother.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Most on here are under the false impression that blood and thunder Thor had warrior madness. That simply isnt the case.
True. But most people don't understand traditional Warrior Madness, much less have seen it. And since that term was used so sparingly throughout Blood and Thunder, before everyone figured out what was truly wrong with Thor, more posters identify WM Thor with B&T Thor then anything else.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
True. But most people don't understand traditional Warrior Madness, much less have seen it. And since that term was used so sparingly throughout Blood and Thunder, before everyone figured out what was truly wrong with Thor, more posters identify WM Thor with B&T Thor then anything else.
Tis true. Its hard fighting this board myth. Its not just here its on herochat as well. Most posters falsely call blood and thunder Thor,wm Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Radiant doesnt have superspeed. The point is Thor bfr's him easily and I have proven he will have th eoption based on Doomsday's battles in hunter and prey. You saying he wont use the bfr option is the only card you can play here.

Actually, you ignoring context is the only option you have here. You put up some half assed scans in an attempt to mislead, attempted to bring up outdated evidence and apparently have completely forgotten that in forum battles Thor doesn't get a head start attack or help as in H/P.

This is laughable as I remember you trying to debate Superman not being able to bfr Hulk despite scans showing him punching people off planet, superior speed, ect.

flip/flop much?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday failed to pummel Radion,Darkseid,and Superman before they could get in an attack. The only reason he beat Darkseid so quickly is that he attacked Darkseid from behind. Thor coul dfly above him fo rthe ultra easy bfr.

Dude, if you are going to continue debating in broken record style, you should have stayed off the forums like you said you were. This has already been discussed.

Radient was easily beaten, DS saw DD but had no chance to react and was owned in 3 hits before a point blank range OE could do anything, and Superman had help and enhancements.

Thor is dead. His BFR is nowere near as fast as Darkseids OE, nor does he posses anything remotely close to Doomsday's speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We arent talking about wars Doomsday, we are only using hunter and prey. You cant have it both ways.

It's the same body. No upgrade was made to it, especially considering that Brainiac is nowhere near the fighter/brawler that DD is. Let's play though. Who did WM Thor BFR and how fast was it done in battle?

Originally posted by quanchi112
DD still attacked Radiant and Radiant easily broke free. He lacked the power t finish Doomsday this time but not before attacking him multiple times.

Radiant is light...and DD destroyed him. Are you really going to try and debate that?

I'll be kind enough to give Thor 2/10 over DD with one being BFR...but it's more likely that he gets whooped.

Originally posted by Avlon
Actually, you ignoring context is the only option you have here. You put up some half assed scans in an attempt to mislead, attempted to bring up outdated evidence and apparently have completely forgotten that in forum battles Thor doesn't get a head start attack or help as in H/P.

This is laughable as I remember you trying to debate Superman not being able to bfr Hulk despite scans showing him punching people off planet, superior speed, ect.

flip/flop much?

Dude, if you are going to continue debating in broken record style, you should have stayed off the forums like you said you were. This has already been discussed.

Radient was easily beaten, DS saw DD but had no chance to react and was owned in 3 hits before a point blank range OE could do anything, and Superman had help and enhancements.

Thor is dead. His BFR is nowere near as fast as Darkseids OE, nor does he posses anything remotely close to Doomsday's speed.

It's the same body. No upgrade was made to it, especially considering that Brainiac is nowhere near the fighter/brawler that DD is. Let's play though. Who did WM Thor BFR and how fast was it done in battle?

Radiant is light...and DD destroyed him. Are you really going to try and debate that?

I'll be kind enough to give Thor 2/10 over DD with one being BFR...but it's more likely that he gets whooped.

No,Im not fliplopping at all. If you cant tell the difference between a Thor bfr and physically picking someone up and throwing them off the planet then I dont know what to tell you. I dont think Superman could bfr Doomsday this way either and since both bfr's are completely different I fail to see your point.

Radiant was beaten but not before he attacked Doomsday. All thor needs is one attack and see ya later Doomsday. If Radiant can surely attack and then break free from Doomsday's grasp then surely Thor can.

It doesnt have to be faster than the oe to hit Doomsday. Thor can fly over his head and bfr him from high above. Its hunter and prey not Doomsday in general,thats the point. Regardless,Thor bfrs him.
If you want to go that route,then when did hp Doomsday use superspeed in this story? Its like using a Superman story and saying he cant use heat vision simply because he didnt in tha particular story. Its ridiculous imo.

We already covered this. The only powerful character Doomsday beat down was Darkseid and that was because his back was turned.

Well after Superman attacked Doomsday in H/P with a sword, I believe that Doomsday took Superman's sword and Superman said that Doomsday was on top on him before he even knew it. Or when Doomsday's claws went into Superman's shoulder while Superman was in the air. Why did not Superman dodge it when he could have?

I think the writers did a worse job showing Doomsday's speed in H/P than in DOS. I think the fight scenes could have been better. I mean if the Flash was running mach 4 or 5 in the DOS era, then Doomsday was probably a little bit more faster than that at the time, even though the comic said that doomsday jumped in the air at half the speed of sound. The best example of Doomsday's speed was when he blitzed the whole Justice League while they were looking straight at him after firing their energy at him.

When Doomsday fought Darkseid, Darkseid should have had time to turn around and blast Doomsday again but I still think that Doomsday ran towards him faster than he could react. Darkseid did not even have time to use him beams again after getting beat up by Doomsday even after he tried.

I do not know how well Doomsday would fight WM Thor, but I still believe that H/P would give him problems.

Originally posted by ToughMind
Well after Superman attacked Doomsday in H/P with a sword, I believe that Doomsday took Superman's sword and Superman said that Doomsday was on top on him before he even knew it. Or when Doomsday's claws went into Superman's shoulder while Superman was in the air. Why did not Superman dodge it when he could have?

I think the writers did a worse job showing Doomsday's speed in H/P than in DOS. I think the fight scenes could have been better. I mean if the Flash was running mach 4 or 5 in the DOS era, then Doomsday was probably a little bit more faster than that at the time, even though the comic said that doomsday jumped in the air at half the speed of sound. The best example of Doomsday's speed was when he blitzed the whole Justice League while they were looking straight at him after firing their energy at him.

You're still taking an excited utterance from Booster Gold as the complete basis of your argument. No. The art doesn't portray any version of Doomsday with anythign close to superspeed. Captain America has blitzed through people who are looking straight at him. It doesn't mean anything. And Doomsday came out and blitzed them when they couldn't even see him because of their combined blasts.
Originally posted by ToughMind
When Doomsday fought Darkseid, Darkseid should have had time to turn around and blast Doomsday again but I still think that Doomsday ran towards him faster than he could react. Darkseid did not even have time to use him beams again after getting beat up by Doomsday even after he tried.

I do not know how well Doomsday would fight WM Thor, but I still believe that H/P would give him problems.

Well... when you get ambushed from behind and are still expressing complete befuddlement at how his opponent survived the Omega Effect, and you've got bony protrusions tearing through your back, I don't find it odd that he wasn't able to mount a counter-attack. Sure H/P would give him problems, but that's from his durability, strength and evolving abilities. Not from his exagerrated mythical super-speed.