You know what I don't like?

Last week, a kid in my school committed suicide.

Now, this week all of the flags in the school district are half mast.

For some reason, I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this.

I brought this up to a few of my peers, and they all thought I was crazy.

Oh, and the reason he commited suicide was because he was caught selling marijuana-laced brownies on school grounds, and had possible charges pending. He couldn't deal with this, so he killed himself.

Anyone here agree with me?

Yes.I.do.agree.

-AC

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You wouldn't understand.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~

For some reason, I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this.

What about soldiers that willingly die for their country?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What about soldiers that willingly die for their country?

That's a very shaky comparison. They don't willingly end their own life. In fact, they do everything possible to preserve their life, they are just doing so in a very dangerous situation.

With that comparison police officers, fire fighters, and others who constantly work in dangerous situations all willingly end their lives. It really just isn't true.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
In fact, they do everything possible to preserve their life

They're not. Staying at home would qualify for that.

They don't/shouldn't get credit for flying to a war zone and then not wanting to die. Stay out of the army then.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
With that comparison police officers, fire fighters, and others who constantly work in dangerous situations all willingly end their lives. It really just isn't true.

They accept that they will possibly die, so if they know and accept that, why should we mourn them?

Mourn the loss of someone who was just walking along and got stabbed. Don't adopt the lame argument of "He got killed, just doing his job as a cop.". Putting themselves in the line of fire.

-AC

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
That's a very shaky comparison. They don't willingly end their own life. In fact, they do everything possible to preserve their life, they are just doing so in a very dangerous situation.

With that comparison police officers, fire fighters, and others who constantly work in dangerous situations all willingly end their lives. It really just isn't true.

It wasn't a comparison, it was a possible exception. Those people often do willingly end their lives, to all intents, in specific situations.

I'm not saying a slight bit of danger means 'someone is willingly ending their life'. That's a slightly idiotic deduction.

I said willingly die. Not 'get into a bit of danger, whereby you might possibly die'.

Has no soldier ever willingly ended their own life? Not suicide, but entered into a position whereby death was inevitable?

Original quote: 'I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this'.

Blanket statement.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They're not. Staying at home would qualify for that.

They don't/shouldn't get credit for flying to a war zone and then not wanting to die. Stay out of the army then.

They accept that they will possibly die, so if they know and accept that, why should we mourn them?

Mourn the loss of someone who was just walking along and got stabbed. Don't adopt the lame argument of "He got killed, just doing his job as a cop.". Putting themselves in the line of fire.

-AC

Certainly they do put themselves into dangerous situations, all to preserve life and to protect the interests of our nation all over the world. Why shouldn't they be mourned for this? All deaths should be mourned, and in my opinion those who willingly accept the risks to preserve other lives and perform community service, or even fight a determined enemy overseas, should all be held in the highest regard.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It wasn't a comparison, it was a possible exception. Those people often do willingly end their lives, to all intents, in specific situations.

I'm not saying a slight bit of danger means 'someone is willingly ending their life'. That's a slightly idiotic deduction.

I said willingly die. Not 'get into a bit of danger, whereby you might possibly die'.

Has no soldier ever willingly ended their own life? Not suicide, but entered into a position whereby death was inevitable?

Original quote: 'I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this'.

Blanket statement.

Very good point.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What about soldiers that willingly die for their country?

That is nothing but absurdity. Willingly walking across the street is willfully accpeting the possibility of death. 90% of soldiers who sign their rights away do it with no intention of dying. Comparing a retard whom couldnt cope to a man who dies defending loved ones is a very very different scenario. Hanging flags at half mast is nothing but an insult to the patrons who lose their souls for this country. I agree that the school should obviously have had the standard grieving and memorial services, but not going as far as lowering our flag half mast.

The flag used to stand for something. What did this typical susicide contribute to this country aside from another statistic of social ills?

maybe.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
That is nothing but absurdity. Willingly walking across the street is willfully accpeting the possibility of death.

Yes, so what? Who said it wasn't?

'Possibility' isn't the issue. You just missed it because your knee-jerk obscured your vision.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse

90% of soldiers who sign their rights away do it with no intention of dying.

Randomly made up statistic, and moreover, irrelevant.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse

Comparing a retard whom couldnt cope to a man who dies defending loved ones is a very very different scenario.

Yes, exactly. That's my point. Who are you debating against again?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse

The flag used to stand for something. What did this typical susicide contribute to this country aside from another statistic of social ills?

I wonder if they have The Daily Mail over there.

You would like it.

Lowering the flag is always a sign of remenbering those who have fallen defending a nation. Times continue to change and no doubt certain social rituals and traditions will change as well...

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

I said willingly die. Not 'get into a bit of danger, whereby you might possibly die'.

Has no soldier ever willingly ended their own life? Not suicide, but entered into a position whereby death was inevitable?

Kamikaze fighters...

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Last week, a kid in my school committed suicide.

Oh, and the reason he commited suicide was because he was caught selling marijuana-laced brownies on school grounds, and had possible charges pending. He couldn't deal with this, so he killed himself.

Another time, a guy died of a heroin overdose. I said that he deserved it and I received the most horrified, disgusted look from this girl who heard me.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
All deaths should be mourned, and in my opinion those who willingly accept the risks to preserve other lives and perform community service, or even fight a determined enemy overseas, should all be held in the highest regard.

A) All deaths? I understand that ideal, it's just impractical. Human life isn't inherently worth mourning.

B) I refuse to hold someone in high regard for something I didn't ask them to do. They're doing it for themselves and they know the risks.

They also sign up to fight unquestionably, for wrong or right. Bush's soldiers found that out, then had the nerve to complain. "We don't like what we're fighting for now!", shut the hell up and think before you join the armed forces then.

-AC

😆 man you're an ass... 😂

Thinking about suicide but you're not sure if it's the right thing to do? Here are some tips to help you decide whether or not killing yourself is a good choice:

1. Do you live at home but your parents are always making you clean your room and do your homework? It's a sure sign that they don't love you and that they want you to kill yourself. Why else would they make you clean your room? What are they going to do next, ground you? Make you wear braces? Don't kid yourself, the message is clear.

2. If you just got out of a bad relationship and you feel like things are never going to get better; you're right. Everyone knows that suicide is the only option, stop procrastinating. Look on the bright side, at least your ex will feel guilty for a couple of minutes--but don't count on it.

3. Depressed? Don't have any friends? I guess nobody told you, but being depressed and feeling lonely isn't normal. Everyone else is happy, and has lots of friends so there must be something wrong with you. Put the prozac away, what you need is rat poison.

4. Spill a drink at a party? Drop a plate of food in a restaurant? Nobody else has to live with that kind of embarrassment; you know what you have to do.

5. Flunked out of college? Don't know algebra? Here's a question you should know the answer to: Flunked out of college + Don't know algebra = Time for _____. Chances are you still don't know the answer, so here's a hint: it starts with an 's' and ends in 'uicide'.

6. Traffic jam? Sometimes bad luck isn't a coincidence. Do you really want to sit in traffic for another half hour? Look on the bright side, if you're a viking you'll be going to Valhalla. Then again, you're probably not, but eternal damnation in hell is probably the next best thing.

7. Telemarketers keep calling? It's easier to hang yourself than to get rid of a telemarketer, am I wrong? If you're lucky, Home Depot might be having a sale on rope. After all, you don't want to die letting people think you weren't frugal.

8. Flu? You realize that there's no cure for the flu, right? Well, no cure that doesn't involve painting the wall with your brains.

9. Flat tire? Do I have to spell it out for you?

10. College application get rejected? Take the hint.

Hope you found this guide helpful, mention it in your suicide note. On second thought, why bother? Nobody will read it.

-Maddox

Originally posted by Blaxican
😆 man you're an ass... 😂

How am I an ass? Was what I said untrue? No.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

They accept that they will possibly die, so if they know and accept that, why should we mourn them?

Mourn the loss of someone who was just walking along and got stabbed. Don't adopt the lame argument of "He got killed, just doing his job as a cop.". Putting themselves in the line of fire.

-AC

Would you feel the same way towards a fireman that died saving you from a burning building?