Re: You know what I don't like?
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~Well, suicide comes with a good reason. I seriously hate it when people say "Only cowards commit Suicide". Well, People would rather die then face such an awful life. Seriously, who would want to live a life and have it slap you in the face 24/7. You explained why he killed himself, but I'm talking generally.
Last week, a kid in my school committed suicide.Now, this week all of the flags in the school district are half mast.
For some reason, I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this.
I brought this up to a few of my peers, and they all thought I was crazy.
Oh, and the reason he commited suicide was because he was caught selling marijuana-laced brownies on school grounds, and had possible charges pending. He couldn't deal with this, so he killed himself.
Anyone here agree with me?
No. Suicide is the coward's way out. I see no exceptions to that rule. There is no situation where there isn't a possibility for a reversal. Suicide is simply the easy way. People who would rather end it all instead of fighting though the hard times and making things better. It's pathetic.
Yes, it's tragic. I will always believe that. I mourn suicides just as much as the next guy. But suicide has never been and will never be the 'right' way to go.
Re: You know what I don't like?
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Last week, a kid in my school committed suicide.Now, this week all of the flags in the school district are half mast.
For some reason, I just don't think that someone who made a willful decision to end his own life should get any sort of honoring such as this.
I brought this up to a few of my peers, and they all thought I was crazy.
Oh, and the reason he commited suicide was because he was caught selling marijuana-laced brownies on school grounds, and had possible charges pending. He couldn't deal with this, so he killed himself.
Anyone here agree with me?
Put up a 8-1/2 x 11" piece of paper honoring him and move on.
I don't agree, It's not just him that this send off is for it's for his family as well. Imagine how you'd feel if your son's life was seen as an utter waste of time and deserves no kind of ceremony. Plus what kind of hardship is it to you just to see some flags half mast, when this is probably the only comfort this lads family and friends are getting? Plus I very very very much doubt that was the only reason he committed suicide.
I have little pity for people who commit suicide as a general rule; some cases aside like mental illness or extreme grief withstanding. But equating someone who jumps off a roof to a fireman, policeman etc who dies in the line of duty is simply asinine.
True they know the risk and their jobs are voluntary, but those jobs are necessary in society and "we" recognize that even though no one forced them specifically into service; we [should] applaud them for doing these dangerous and necessary jobs. So when a fireman dies saving someone; putting out a fire or a policeman dies for attempting to stop a criminal "we" should mourn the loss as they died for a reason and didn't simply "commit suicide".
Originally posted by StrangeloveThe Holocaust. If you were known to become as a Non survivor in the tragic time. Explain that. You are about to die a Painful death.
No. Suicide is the coward's way out. I see no exceptions to that rule. There is no situation where there isn't a possibility for a reversal. Suicide is simply the easy way. People who would rather end it all instead of fighting though the hard times and making things better. It's pathetic.
Originally posted by Strangelove
No. Suicide is the coward's way out. I see no exceptions to that rule. There is no situation where there isn't a possibility for a reversal. Suicide is simply the easy way. People who would rather end it all instead of fighting though the hard times and making things better. It's pathetic.Yes, it's tragic. I will always believe that. I mourn suicides just as much as the next guy. But suicide has never been and will never be the 'right' way to go.
That's a broad blanket judgement to make don't you think? There are [some] exceptions where death would seem preferable than living; e.g., what if you had an illness that was going to kill you for certain without the [medical] possibility of a "reversal" and the short time you had to life was nothing but chronic pain? Would it be "cowardly" to end your own suffering? Don't be so ready to judge.
Who are we to call people cowards anyway? Why should we question others personal decisions? I can't see any cowardice in suicide, I know I wouldn't have the balls no mater what to slit my wrists, hang myself or shoot myself. Plus overdoses are one the most painful ways to die. Maybe some of you should go through these people's emotional pain and then come back and call them cowards.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Who are we to call people cowards anyway? Why should we question others personal decisions? I can't see any cowardice in suicide, I know I wouldn't have the balls no mater what to slit my wrists, hang myself or shoot myself. Plus overdoses are one the most painful ways to die. Maybe some of you should go through these people's emotional pain and then come back and call them cowards.
Regardless of whether or not suicide is worth it, which I personally don't believe it ever is (Permanent solution to temporary problem etc.), what you said is correct, and people forget that.
I fail to see it as an act of cowardice to willingly take your own life.
"People who slit their wrists are p*ssies.". Hardly. I'd say it takes "guts" to willingly slice your own flesh.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Regardless of whether or not suicide is worth it, which I personally don't believe it ever is (Permanent solution to temporary problem etc.), what you said is correct, and people forget that.I fail to see it as an act of cowardice to willingly take your own life.
"People who slit their wrists are p*ssies.". Hardly. I'd say it takes "guts" to willingly slice your own flesh.
-AC
Originally posted by Robtard
But equating someone who jumps off a roof to a fireman, policeman etc who dies in the line of duty is simply asinine.True they know the risk and their jobs are voluntary, but those jobs are necessary in society and "we" recognize that even though no one forced them specifically into service; we [should] applaud them for doing these dangerous and necessary jobs. So when a fireman dies saving someone; putting out a fire or a policeman dies for attempting to stop a criminal "we" should mourn the loss as they died for a reason and didn't simply "commit suicide".
I would hope you do not suggest that is what I did.
I imagine this must be aimed elsewhere.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
are you guys speaking from experience? has any of you actually contemplated suicide?
Suggesting that holding an opinion different to yours, automatically means the people arguing have direct experience in the matter, reveals your frailty of mind. One who cannot even take into account the other side of an argument may as well argue with ones self in my opinion. I'll give you this quote to savour:
'The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.' F Scott Fitzgerald