Ryu Hayabusa vs Urien and Gill

Originally posted by Meteora
Again, Ryu's teleportation in DOA4 happens instantly. He can do it constantly in battle and that's enough speed to slash Urien and Gill within seconds.

Hayabusa can never teleport instantly, that's just BS.

Originally posted by Meteora

You mean the weapon Ryu wielded at the end of NG?

Yeah, the one he had for one chapter and didn't even use.

Originally posted by Meteora

You'll take the place of the most illogical and..cough..bipolar debator in the games forum 😆

😆 Yeah, that's funny coming from someone who claims they are done debating me and then picks up again. But, now your going to stop because of a mood change, must be that time of the month. 😆

Originally posted by Meteora

Do you read? I said it doesn't matter if it only happens in-game. Secondly

Maybe, if it wasn't an item that isn't even in this match, but let him ressurect and get owned again 😆

Originally posted by Meteora

Ryu can get resurrected. Do you have trouble accepting that as well?
Which he would kill the brothers with rather easily 🙂

Ryu, would drun out of Talismans, because he would die so oftern 🙂

Originally posted by Meteora

I'm pretty much done with you. I may or may not respond to your future worthless posts depending on what mood I'll be in.

Yeah, I've heard that before and I'm Bi-polar, this just proves how much of a flip-flop you are. Most of your acusations describe you 😆

YouTube video

STRAIGHT OUTTA LOCASH!!!

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
YouTube video

[B]STRAIGHT OUTTA LOCASH!!! [/B]

Oh, and being in a mood one day and being in a different one another day doesn't mean someone's bipolar numbnut. It just means he was in another mood. However thinking Hayabusa can take down world killers with his bare hands and claiming his weapons were only a plot device to the Dark Dragon Blade, and then coming back some days later saying his weapons were plot devices in general and saying he can't beat a pair of guys in thongs shows your obvious bipolarity, and how it's obvious you like to flipflop 😆

Originally posted by Meteora
Haha, you feel better after that little outburst? 😆 And sadly, noone here thinks an armed Ryu can't win other than you. Seems like you're one of the outcasts here little guy.

Outburst, posting a video is a outburst since when. It seems your moronic post get worst everytime you randomly appearand Feel like debating. And, no one agree's with me, are you stupid or partly blind?

Here's a list of people who've posted arguments that support mines:

Shin Remy
StyleTime
Jacope X

Sounds like your the outcast since you've been called a bad debator by:

Trickster Preist
Remulous
C-Master

And everyone else under sun, don't quit your day job. 😆

Originally posted by Meteora

Oh, and being in a mood one day and being in a different one another day doesn't mean someone's bipolar numbnut.

Yeah, it does, when you stop debvating then pick up then stop because of moodswings. Then your Bi-polar or your on your peroid, which one is it? 😆

Originally posted by Meteora

It just means he was in another mood.

One of your many random moods.

Originally posted by Meteora

However thinking Hayabusa can take down world killers with his bare hands and claiming his weapons were only a plot device to the Dark Dragon Blade, and then coming back some days later saying his weapons were plot devices in general and saying he can't beat a pair of guys in thongs shows your obvious bipolarity, and how it's obvious you like to flipflop 😆

😆 Changing in opinion when more facts are discoverewd doesn't make me a flip flop. Unlike you, I didn't change because and I quote: "Depending on what mode I'm in"

Not to mention how many times your argument contradicted it's self. 😆

I see the comment about what I said, which I don't mind being it in the past, but to avoid another flamewar, could Joeseph just leave my name out of it in his rebuttal? I'd appreciate it. ✅

My bad.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Outburst, posting a video is a outburst since when. It seems your moronic post get worst everytime you randomly appearand [B]Feel like debating.[/b]

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
STRAIGHT OUTTA LOCASH!!!

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And, no one agree's with me, are you stupid or partly blind?

Here's a list of people who've posted arguments that support mines:

Shin Remy

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
StyleTime

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Jacope X

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Sounds like your the outcast since you've been called a bad debator by:

Trickster Preist

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Remulous

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
C-Master

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And everyone else under sun, don't quit your day job.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, it does,

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
when you stop debvating then pick up then stop because of moodswings.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Then your Bi-polar or your on your peroid, which one is it?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
One of your many random moods.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Changing in opinion when more facts are discoverewd doesn't make me a flip flop.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Unlike you, I didn't change because and I quote:"Depending on what mode I'm in"

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Not to mention how many times your argument contradicted it's self.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII
Who's moronic post you say? Yeah, I thought so. Oh and speaking of "feeling like debating", I'm not the one who runs away after getting assraped by the majority of the people here, and comes back crying saying Hayabusa can beat planet destroyers in H2H What's worse is that your posts contradict themselves as I showed several pages back.

Oh you mean like when you Got assed raped and had to PM me for advice pertaining to the Akuma Vs ayane thread?

Last I checked, you were getting assed raped, not me and not to mention that argument you keep reminding me about about was one you supported, genius.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Who doesn't count since everyone acknowledges he's an SF fanboy

Anyone one who say's it "Blasphemous" to address hayabusa a certain way has not right to call another person a fanboy.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

About the DDB issue and nothing else. Not to mention he only said Ryu using it is a bonus, which is true.

So, what's this:

Originally posted by StyleTime

Hayabusa loses to the team. Far too powerful to take on solo for him.

And, now you agree that the DDB is only a mere bonus after and that he never uses it. Okay, so now I'm going to bring the DDB debate and your miraculous change of heart everytime you mention that argument I made.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

With an "I LOL'ED". Yeah, he really convinced everyone.

Why would he have to convince everyone, when the majority agree that hayabusa would lose?

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Who I've heard several call a fanboy, and a bullshitter. Not to mention he'd disagree with your claim that Hayabusa can beat Gouki in H2H

Quote me, when did I claim hayabusa can defeat gouki in h2h?

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Do you even know what an outcast is? It means someone who's self or opinion is rejected by the majority.

Just like your opinion was rejected by most posters in this particular thread?

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

And you just made an ass of yourself saying he doesn't agree with what I've been arguing considering on the first page he said Ryu WILL win if he has the TDS. Snafu excluded the weapons from NG to make the fight fair. Do you know that?

So, inconclusion, he agree's that hayabusa would lose. Therefore he does not support your opinion.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Who has nothing to do with this issue.

Just like, everyone agreeing with you has to do this issue right or that old post I made (Which I haven't even disregarded) has to do with this issue or Superman primne, sin, and the other irrelevant crap you posted has to with this issue, right?

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Everyone who resides in your world, is that right? 😆

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

so now everyone who's in one mood today and another one the next month is bipolar?

Month's, try a few days buddy. A whole month hasn't even passed yet.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Ever considered going back to middle school?

I think your still there, since you cannot distinguish days from months.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Which you did when you argued in the Ayane versus Akuma thread after not coming back for god knows how long

Why would I comeback, when I was only there to debate remulous?
Once he stopped coming, there was no reason to continue.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

I guess I should be asking you that question 😂
You mean one of your many random moods where you decide to argue Ryu Hayabusa can beat planet destroyers in H2H and that his weapons are only plot devices to the Dark Dragon Blade.

😆 Yeah, that agruement that you supported, and now your so gung ho to bring it up. You know I haven't disregarded that argument and that a bulk of what I said is still supported by me.

-I still belive the TDS is a plot device, just not for the DDB only anymore. Since I remembered that hayabusa managed to stalemate alma whilst using the DS and magically owned nicchae and Ishtaros at the sametime

-I still believe hayabusa is capable of roughly doing what he does without the blade, but since hayabusa jobs people whilst having the TDS. I've realised it's plot device.

-And, Inever said he can defeat world kkillers in h2h, I said he might be able to. Show's how much you can read.

Speaking of flip flops, what about you and the DDB. First it's canon then it's not in the stroy then it's only a bonus. Which one is it, that is if your still debating.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

So what made you think Ryu could beat planet destroyers in H2H and makes you not think that now?

Too bad I never said that he can defeat world illers for sure in h2h.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

Wow, how much of a dumbass can you be? I said I may or may not feel like refuting your posts which contradict themselves anyway, so I see no reason to show that they're wrong.

If you can't refute what I said before, what makes you think you can refute them now?

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII

I'm still waiting for an example other than your "Using the Tengu glich" bs argument

And, I'm still waiting for you to answer:

-The bulk of my urien and gill rebuttal
-list to the properties of the TDS
-Show me a canon example of DDB being used
-Decide wether game mechanics are on, since urien and gill would gain parrying skill

And, tengu is a game mechanic/glicth, you brought it up. So, the BS is on you.

etc.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII
I believe he was saying Ryu's power and skill is his without the sword, which is correct. Unarmed, he can't take down the Vigoor Emperor even if she/he wasn't using the Dark Dragon Blade, since he/she possessed the power of the evil deities which can destroy the Earth. Secondly, the Dark Dragon's power rivals that of Vigoor's, so it should be obvious why Ryu should use the True Dragon Sword against the Vigoor Emperor and the Devil Incarnate. Oh, and I don't see where Ashtar stated that Ryu can take these beings down without his primary weapon.

Here you summed up my argument well, thank you. Hell, you even agree that I didn't belive he can take out world killers in h2h. So, tell me, where did I post without a doubt that hayabusa can defeat world killers in h2h?

Wait, I'm confused. Does the TDS give Hayabusa the power to destroy world killers or just the power to beat the DDS, the VE and the Devil Incarnate?

Originally posted by Remulous
Wait, I'm confused. Does the TDS give Hayabusa the power to destroy world killers or just the power to beat the DDS, the VE and the Devil Incarnate?

TDS is for beating the upper echelon of the greater fiends and the DDB wielders.

So up against Urien and Gill, it would be a regular sword?

Regular only in the sense that it doesn't add any special bonus against Urien or Gill if that's what you meant. It's definitely a bit more powerful than a regular sword though.

The TDS was never said to be created to counter the upper echelon of the greater fiends. It was only stated to rival and surpass in power the Dark Dragon blade.

The sword clearly got an upgrade in power, and with that power Ryu was able to overcome the odds. The Plot Device is ,IMO ,exclusive to the Dark Dragon Blade.

It's basically just this: TDS > DDB >> Vigoor, Greater Fiends

If there is an extreme power boost (like I 1st thought) with the sword, Hayabusa will win.

If not, he goes down. REALLY hard.

Hayabusa is said to be just a ninja.....Urien and Gill are both very powerful messiahs able to ressurect, cause critical damage and can even defeat Ryu and ken since Urien is also able to reflect moves as powerful as a hadouken. So explain how Hayabuse can stand a chance. And a sword wont do jack squat.

Originally posted by Eclipse_XII
Look who's talking 😆 and I'm not the one who flip flops to make certain issues go the way I want them to.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Actually, he is right. You are somehow a fan of Hayabuse, but you will never admit that Hayabusa can be beaten. Even against two messiah god like fighters. That is plain pathetic.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Hayabusa is said to be just a ninja.....Urien and Gill are both very powerful messiahs able to ressurect, cause critical damage and can even defeat Ryu and ken since Urien is also able to reflect moves as powerful as a hadouken. So explain how Hayabuse can stand a chance. And a sword wont do jack squat.