New Abortion law, about ultra-sounds...

Started by Alliance17 pages
Originally posted by Regret
Given the raging hormones, can a woman truly say she is making a decision concerning abortion with her full faculties? Just asking the question since it never occurred to me until reading this portion of Lil B's post:

Given the fact that women always have hoormone fluctuations, can we ever be considering them to be making rational decisions?...ore are they simply ruled by their uterus?

Can teenages actually make decisions even though they're going under hormonal changes?

Come on.

Wait a minute, is someone actually suggesting that women are so concerned with getting laid that they loose their descision making abilities?

I don't see what the problem is with this

Its not violating anyone's "rights"

Its simply saying, look at what you are going to do, you are going to have a living thing killed, think about what you are doing

But that's the point, they already know.

Originally posted by Grimm22
I don't see what the problem is with this

Its not violating anyone's "rights"

Its simply saying, look at what you are going to do, you are going to have a living thing killed, think about what you are doing

Originally posted by BackFire
If you can't win by logic and reason, guilt trip the person.

Weeeeeeeeeee!

ROFL.

What a bunch of tools. "ZOMG EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL." Give me a ****ing break. When people started describing abortion as being a right instead of a privilege, it became emotional blackmail.

Originally posted by Syren
Not exactly. Surely "I don't want to have a baby" should have been reason enough for them to have thought "I should use some sort of contraception"?

Don't get me wrong, I'm just as disturbed by this proposed (already passed?) legislation, I just don't think that abortion should be as simple as "I don't want it".

Because contraception never fails, right? C'mon Sy, you know better than that...

Originally posted by Lana
Because contraception never fails, right? C'mon Sy, you know better than that...

Not ****ing works wonders.

Originally posted by FeceMan
ROFL.

What a bunch of tools. "ZOMG EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL." Give me a ****ing break. When people started describing abortion as being a right instead of a privilege, it became emotional blackmail.

Are you saying that forcing women who are already making a really difficult decision to have an ultrasound isn't emotional blackmail? Give me a ****ing break.

And like Alliance said, does the state pay for the ultrasound? Because they certainly can't make the patient pay for something that isn't necessary for the procedure.

Originally posted by Lana
Because contraception never fails, right? C'mon Sy, you know better than that...

Hey, hey, you know what I meant by that comment. It was in response to the comment I quoted. Not wanting the baby is not reason enough to have an abortion, in my opinion. Fair enough if there's a reason not to want the baby other than that it might mess up one's social life. I do know better than that, madam, my comment was in context 😛

As Capt said, most women have already made the choice. People assuming they need more education are nothing more than guilt-trippers looking for a way in.

Originally posted by Syren
Hey, hey, you know what I meant by that comment. It was in response to the comment I quoted. Not wanting the baby is not reason enough to have an abortion, in my opinion. Fair enough if there's a reason not to want the baby other than that it might mess up one's social life. I do know better than that, madam, my comment was in context 😛

So don't have one for that reason. Not wanting a baby is enough of a reason for the person doing it. I don't think it's nice that abortion is being used as birth control, but it will happen. That's a people problem, not an abortion problem.

As long as freedoms exist, people will use them frivolously. The point to freedom is that the option is there, and people shouldn't be restricted because idiots will misuse things.

Jeffrey Dahmer was a very naughty boy with power drills, you don't see Black & Decker going out of business.

-AC

Originally posted by Grimm22
I don't see what the problem is with this

Its not violating anyone's "rights"

Its simply saying, look at what you are going to do, you are going to have a living thing killed, think about what you are doing

Again you are claiming women are ignorant.

ALL this legislation is, is derrogatory, unethical governmental OVERREGULATION.

"Look at what you're going to end, see, it's little arms, little legs, look I think it just smiled."

"mmmm, looks tasty, maybe I will let it stew in there a bit more after all, thanks doc!"

If a woman reacts this way they will have my respect.

you know what would be really cool?

what if you wanted to frick with someone right? by using CGI effects you create a devil baby ultra sound. but wait...the devil baby has twins. the twin is the good baby and they commence battleing each other and stranggeling one another with their own mommy cord. I bet that mom want a special edition dvd of that shit.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
you know what would be really cool?

what if you wanted to frick with someone right? by using CGI effects you create a devil baby ultra sound. but wait...the devil baby has twins. the twin is the good baby and they commence battleing each other and stranggeling one another with their own mommy cord. I bet that mom want a special edition dvd of that shit.

And then a coathanger enters the fray and foes must then join together to fight a greater evil. An evil that cannot be defeated alone.

no dude thats just taking it to far now.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Emotional blackmail" is B.S., 'blackmail' is coercion by threats; no one is being threatened.
Okay let's play the silly semantics game, it's a fascistic law that attempts coercion towards a desired outcome by manipulation of emotions. Happy?

Heh, heh...what's the difference between "guilt tripping" and "awakening their consciences"?

None.

What do I win?

-AC